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First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:33 pm

Here's the first photo of Virgin Nigeria's first A340-300, the airline will launch flights to London with there new A340!

Do they plan to add more 343's, if so where to, FRA,CDG.....?

What airport will Virgin Nigeria use LGW or LHR?

No way as good as the VS livery!

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=2065

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:35 pm

Also here's a photo from a.net:

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Tue Jun 14, 2005 11:36 pm

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
What airport will Virgin Nigeria use LGW or LHR?

They will use LHR...

** AMADEUS - TN ** LOS LAGOS.NG 01AUG05 08AUG05
1 VK 280 2 LHR 3 LOS 2010 0310+1 0 12JUL05 16AUG05 343 7:00
2 VK 280 46 LHR 3 LOS 2010 0310+1 0 14JUL05 29OCT05 343 7:00

** AMADEUS - TN ** LHR HEATHROW.GB 01AUG05 08AUG05
1 VK 281 3 LOS LHR 3 1235 1930 0 13JUL05 17AUG05 343 6:55
2 VK 281 57 LOS LHR 3 1235 1930 0 15JUL05 28OCT05 343 6:55

First flight departs 4th July 2005.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:32 am

As much as I wish the airline all the best, I think their paint job is simply awful! The red and greens imply do not go...

Anyway, I look forward to seeing this bird around LHR soon!

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:32 am

Why didn´t they leave the fuselage in silver? The repaint to white costs money and looks less good.
But good that finally a nice shiny aircraft is operated by a "Nigerian" airline.
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:44 am

A former VS A343 I assume ??

Which will operate this bird ? Nigeraian or British ?


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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:51 am

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 5):
Which will operate this bird ? Nigeraian or British ?

I presume you mean what nationality the pilots will be? Or who will run the airline? Eitehr way however, I would have thouight that Nigerians would play a major part in the airline. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:56 am

I meant both: Cabin crews and flight crews actually.

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:01 am

Quoting Flying Belgian (Reply 5):
A former VS A343 I assume

Yep, G-VBUS!


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Will G-VBUS keep her reg. with Virgin Nigeria?

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:02 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 2):
They will use LHR...

** AMADEUS - TN ** LOS LAGOS.NG 01AUG05 08AUG05
1 VK 280 2 LHR 3 LOS 2010 0310+1 0 12JUL05 16AUG05 343 7:00
2 VK 280 46 LHR 3 LOS 2010 0310+1 0 14JUL05 29OCT05 343 7:00

** AMADEUS - TN ** LHR HEATHROW.GB 01AUG05 08AUG05
1 VK 281 3 LOS LHR 3 1235 1930 0 13JUL05 17AUG05 343 6:55
2 VK 281 57 LOS LHR 3 1235 1930 0 15JUL05 28OCT05 343 6:55

First flight departs 4th July 2005.

Does it mean they will only have 40 minutes to turn their A340 around for departure? That would be incredibly fast!
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:07 am

Quoting Airbus A3XX (Reply 9):
Does it mean they will only have 40 minutes to turn their A340 around for departure? That would be incredibly fast!

A bit longer than that. The LOS-LHR flights operate on Wed, Fri and Sun, and the return flight operates Tues, Thurs and Sat. So its on the ground at LHR more than 24 hours each run, it seems.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:11 am

Lovin' the livery! But they should make the whole tail green Big grin
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:17 am

Quoting B742 (Thread starter):
Do they plan to add more 343's

I am guessing that the next aircraft to enter the Virgin Nigeria fleet will be:

G-VSUN
G-VAEL AND
G-VFLY.

If u look at
http://www.v-flyer.com/entertainment.asp and go to Arcadia it says just above the list of aircraft:

The Arcadia system is on a selection of A340 aircraft, but is likely to be phased out as these aircraft leave the fleet.

Someone correct me if i am wrong!

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:20 am

Will the cabin configuration say the same with the Arcadia entertainment or will Virgin Nigeria have there own cabin design and entertainment?
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:54 am

Quoting VScaptain (Reply 13):
Will the cabin configuration say the same with the Arcadia entertainment or will Virgin Nigeria have there own cabin design and entertainment?

VK will use the Virgin Arcadia flight entertainment system but the flight menu, among other inflight amenities, will bear the Virgin Nigeria logo.

It is only normal Virgin Nigeria will rely on Virgin Atlantic temporarily in providing flight crew, leased aircraft, some human resources, among other things until Virgin Nigeria gets at full speed for the Fall timetable.

Quoting Airbus A3XX (Reply 9):
AMADEUS - TN ** LOS LAGOS.NG 01AUG05 08AUG05

1 VK 280 2 LHR 3 LOS 2010 0310+1 0 12JUL05 16AUG05 343 7:00
2 VK 280 46 LHR 3 LOS 2010 0310+1 0 14JUL05 29OCT05 343 7:00

** AMADEUS - TN ** LHR HEATHROW.GB 01AUG05 08AUG05
1 VK 281 3 LOS LHR 3 1235 1930 0 13JUL05 17AUG05 343 6:55
2 VK 281 57 LOS LHR 3 1235 1930 0 15JUL05 28OCT05 343 6:55

I could not find the above schedules on Amadeus.com Am I missing something?
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:59 am

I haven't seen such an ugly looking livery in a long time.

Maybe stupid question but why does Virgin need a Nigerian based airline to fly it's London route? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

Cheers.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting VScaptain (Reply 12):
am guessing that the next aircraft to enter the Virgin Nigeria fleet will be:

G-VSUN
G-VAEL AND
G-VFLY

Thanks, yer I also think that G-VSUN and G-VAEL will go as they are the early 311 models, however I dont think that G-VFLY will leave as of yet as it is a 313 model!

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:05 am

Yuck! What a way for VS to lose their classy style in livery design!

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:08 am

Because Virgin Nigeria is not flying for Virgin Atlantic, it is flying for Nigeria as its flag carrier (will operate to other destinations such as JFK, DXB, FRA, etc. as well as domestic flights).

About the livery read the other thread on Virgin Nigeria...Cheers...
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:26 am

It will not operate to JFK, at least under the current situation. Unforunately, it has gotten caught in the dispute over Bermuda II. The US is claiming that it is a British carrier, and therefore would have to operate under the conditions of Bermuda II.
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting Jrlander (Reply 19):
It will not operate to JFK, at least under the current situation. Unforunately, it has gotten caught in the dispute over Bermuda II. The US is claiming that it is a British carrier, and therefore would have to operate under the conditions of Bermuda II.

Can Virgin Nigeria operate to EWR, or is that still under the condtions of Bermua II?

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:10 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 20):
Can Virgin Nigeria operate to EWR, or is that still under the condtions of Bermua II?

Anywhere in the US would be governed by Bermuda II if Virgin Nigeria is considered a British carrier. That's because Bermuda II is the bilateral in effect between the US and the UK.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:59 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 16):
Thanks, yer I also think that G-VSUN and G-VAEL will go as they are the early 311 models, however I dont think that G-VFLY will leave as of yet as it is a 313 model!

according to http://www.v-flyer.com/entertainment.asp G-VFLY is a 311!!
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 6:39 am

The question is what makes it a British Carrier.
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 1:34 pm

It's not a matter of 'being a British carrier'. The US DOT views Virgin Nigeria as being 'British controlled' which is different. This is arguable, since the majority of the board of directors have been appointed by the 51% Nigerian side (institutional investors).
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 2:39 pm

A former VS A343 I assume ?? Just looking at the a.net photo will show that its an ex VS bird.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:00 pm

It is a former VS bird, G-VBUS still registered the same, but this IS the corporate identity of Virgin Nigeria, being partly owned by Virgin Atlantic Airways. I have a feeling new a/c to be delivered from September onwards (probably 737NGs) will bear a revised, final, livery.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 3:09 pm

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 14):
I could not find the above schedules on Amadeus.com Am I missing something?

Possibly. VK is not a Participating Carrier, so you have to add a "/AYY" to the end of the TN input to get their schedules as well (or "/AVK"). Works for all non-PCA's for whom we hold schedules (about 300 airlines). VK will be a Participating Carrier soon, I believe.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 4:53 pm

Excuse my ignorance but what is the "TN" input? I am using the timetable function on amadeus.net
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:19 pm

When will she leave Filton? May have to go take my own pics! Anyone know?
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:40 pm

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 26):
I have a feeling new a/c to be delivered from September onwards (probably 737NGs) will bear a revised, final, livery.

Weren't they supposed to start flying A320's?

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:59 pm

Sorry for that but I like the livery.  sorry 
Especially the green cowlings look nice.
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:00 pm

It looks horrible!

Green engines just don't go...
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:14 pm

Just found this on cnn:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/0...nigeria.virgin.row.reut/index.html


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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 7:50 pm

Does this mean VS will stop their flights to Lagos?? Sorry if this is obvious or been discussed but I couldnt find it!
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:52 pm

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 28):
Excuse my ignorance but what is the "TN" input? I am using the timetable function on amadeus.net

Sorry - I thought you were using Amadeus proper. On the Amadeus.net you don't have access to schedules for all the airlines providing schedules to Amadeus, only those carriers that provide them directly to Amadeus, rather than through third parties. VK is not one of them.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:28 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 35):
Sorry - I thought you were using Amadeus proper. On the Amadeus.net you don't have access to schedules for all the airlines providing schedules to Amadeus, only those carriers that provide them directly to Amadeus, rather than through third parties. VK is not one of them.

So what does a 'Participating Carrier' mean exactly and why do some airlines provide schedules 'directly' to Amadeus? Shouldn't VK follow suit its parent airline?
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:30 pm

Quoting Babybus (Reply 15):
Maybe stupid question but why does Virgin need a Nigerian based airline to fly it's London route? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick?

According to a Sept. 2004 press release on the VK website:

"The new airline will operate separately to the existing Virgin Atlantic services between Nigeria and the UK, which will continue normally. Virgin Atlantic currently operates from London to Lagos and Port Harcourt, with around 300 people in Nigeria supporting its business."

I'm a little surprised by this - sounds like VK and VS will be competing with each other. Maybe they fly on different days of the week. However, that information is nine months old, so maybe something has changed.

http://www.virginnigeria.com/en/ng/press/pr2004-09-28.aspx

Quoting TIMC (Reply 32):
Green engines just don't go...

They've got to make the plane mostly green to give it a Nigerian identity. What they really should have done is have the tail be a green background, with the same "Virgin" font in white. That would look cool, and it would match the wings.

Quoting AirWales (Reply 34):
Does this mean VS will stop their flights to Lagos?? Sorry if this is obvious or been discussed but I couldnt find it!

see above.
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:33 pm

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 36):
So what does a 'Participating Carrier' mean exactly and why do some airlines provide schedules 'directly' to Amadeus? Shouldn't VK follow suit its parent airline?

A Participating Carrier is an airline whose flights can be sold in Amadeus. We have 472 currently. We take schedules for a whole bunch of others as well, for info for travel agents (we have schedules for 789 airlines at the moment)

The majority of airlines provide schedules to GDS's via OAG, that collates all their schedules and produces a giant file which is uploaded once a week. Some airlines (about 200) choose to send their schedules to Amadeus directly, via a dedicated message link, so that their updates are published in real time, rather than having to wait for OAG.

Re VK and VS - VS provide their schedules to Amadeus via OAG, and VK does the same (I'm assuming VK is hosted in Shares, the same as VS).
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 38):
Re VK and VS - VS provide their schedules to Amadeus via OAG, and VK does the same (I'm assuming VK is hosted in Shares, the same as VS).

Then why do we see VS schedules on Amadeus but not VK? Is it only because VS can sell its tickets on Amadeus and not yet for VK?
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:47 pm

The livery looks fine to me. Basically, it is Virgin brand with Nigerian flavour. Not bad. I only wonder why did they paint the fuselage white instead of silver?
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:49 pm

Quoting EurostarVA (Reply 39):
Then why do we see VS schedules on Amadeus but not VK? Is it only because VS can sell its tickets on Amadeus and not yet for VK?

Good question. I'll have to check that - I'm not sure you should be seeing VS schedules, but anyway.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Thu Jun 16, 2005 4:56 am

hi for info the a/c has been at gatwick all day and is due out late this evening to phc i belive
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:32 am

Thanks onlysmarties! Good to know.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:36 am

When is the aircraft due to enter service for Virgin Nigeria?

Is the aircraft still equiped with the old VS seats?

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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:46 am

It will enter wet-lease service on Jun 28. Part-time only, the remainder time it will be used on VS flights from London to India and China. Great way to promote a new airline!! flying billboard...
I don't know how/when VN will expand its long haul capacities though. Also, an order for narrow-body dry lease will be announced soon. It's said that deliveries start Sep.2005.
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Thu Jun 16, 2005 7:53 am

What happened to the original livery... that had a bird painted on the side?
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:34 am

Bird! LOL!

Nigeria is partly a muslim country, suspect that the powers that be wouldn't want a vega girl draped over the side.

Wonder if they'll cover her up for DXB?
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:16 am

lol... as much as I use that terminology Wink i meant the silver eagle( ? ) that the earlier Virgin Nigeria pictures had!
 
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RE: First Pic - Virgin Nigeria A340-300

Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:21 am

Quoting IanatSTN (Reply 3):
The red and green simply do not go...

tell that to ITALY and CHRISTMAS...

And according to color theory, red and green do go. as does purple and yellow, blue and orange. they are opposites, but they contrast each other perfectly.
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