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Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:44 am

*First of all, the caption speaks volumes and I completely agree with a chuckle*


Little play on words in my Topic. I really don't care if an airliner isn't due for another paint job for a few more months, or years, if it looks like this you should put some touch-up paint on the damn thing so you don't scare your general flying pax. USAirways management needs to wake-up and smell the Jet-A and do something about embarrassments like this one.

Putting other airlines to shame on who has "The Worst Paint Flying" here is our clear winner:

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Put your Rule Book aside people, sometimes there must be an exception for the greater good. . . . . . . . . . . .for the sake of perception (pax and potential pax) in this case.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:47 am

That's the new HP/US livery... haven't you heard??
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:51 am

Another version of this plane in bad paint shape ...


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There are lots more of photos showing planes in bad paint shape. I remember this one:


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And many more of them in the database... Normal wear, unfortunately.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:53 am

Actually, if there's going to be a new livery after the merger, it might be the more prudent decision not to repaint the airplane.

Most customers are sophisticated enough to realize that paint has nothing to do with safety. As long as the interior is decently maintained, I doubt anyone cares.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:56 am

oh wow, I know that this crappy paint condition poses no safety risk to pax but from a image standpoint, not something to be proud of. I know american airliners arent doing so well, but COME ON!
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:58 am

Perhaps the lease on that US 737-300 is expiring soon, and they don't want to repaint it just before returning it to the lessor. At least, that's what I want to think is happening!
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:01 am

"Most customers are sophisticated enough to realize that paint has nothing to do with safety."

Guess again FATboy. . .most people look at the plane with a horrified look on their face when they are the ones who are about to board it.

C'mon. . . sophisticated ??? I don't think so. Even business travelers, like myself, usually look like they just took a bite out of a bad apple when presented with this a/c to fly for their flight.

Guess again FATboy. . . . . . .I just like saying that.  Wink
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:02 am

I too have noticed that US Airways 737s are in pretty bad shape. While I've been at MHT over the past month, in the afternoon there is a 737-400 that comes in, followed a couple of minutes later by an A321. The difference is quite resounding - the 737 is quite shabby on the outside, while the A321 looks really nice under the sun.

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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:05 am

"oh wow, I know that this crappy paint condition poses no safety risk to pax but from a image standpoint, not something to be proud of. I know american airliners arent doing so well, but COME ON!"

Now this guy is realistic. Dvk "get's it" . . .good job.

I hope to God this 737's lease is almost up. . .or it's life! 'Cause USAirways has certainly givin' up on the poor gal. . . . . .
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:55 am

Jeez people, a little common sense here. If you're concerned about the bottom line, what would you do? pull the airplane out of revenue generating service so that maybe 1 passenger out of 200 can "feel good" about the airplane they are getting on, or leave it in service until its next heavy check when it can be repainted.
 
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Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:04 am

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 9):
Jeez people, a little common sense here. If you're concerned about the bottom line, what would you do? pull the airplane out of revenue generating service so that maybe 1 passenger out of 200 can "feel good" about the airplane they are getting on, or leave it in service until its next heavy check when it can be repainted.

Sounds like someone needs to learn the word "branding"!

By your logic, there's really no point in painting or repainting planes at all. The entire reason airlines paint their planes is to present a certain image to their customers - otherwise, they could just layer them with the aircraft equivalent of clearcoat and just leave them like that (some cargo airlines do this).

If an airplane's paint is in this bad shape, it's probably going to do more damage long-term to the airline than the financial costs associated with repainting it.

Of course, there may be other reasons for not repainting it, as others have mentioned - if its lease is up, or if there's a livery change coming up.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:13 am

This is why Aeromex and American's chome look makes so much sense. It doesn't enhance the confidence of the flying public that the airplane is safe when (a) the company is bankrupt and (b) the plane looks poorly maintained. It really doesn't matter if the airplane is completely safe or not. Appearance means a lot to the customer.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:06 am

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 3):
Most customers are sophisticated enough to realize that paint has nothing to do with safety. As long as the interior is decently maintained, I doubt anyone cares.

true. i flew that exact plane back in march, it flew normally, and the inside was clean........US has more to worry about than the paint on their planes, as do most US airlines. just give them a break..geez  Yeah sure
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:12 am

I have shot this girl twice in the last month, once at RSW
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and a second time at FLL (still in the queue). She badly needs a paint job or something to cover up the patches and missing paint. I also have one in the queue of an a319 that has horrible paint peeling.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:19 am

Quoting ExFATboy (Reply 3):
Most customers are sophisticated enough to realize that paint has nothing to do with safety. As long as the interior is decently maintained, I doubt anyone cares.

A sophisticated customer would know that paint or polish is part of an airlines corrosion control program and as such it does relate to safety. It costs very little to touch up base paint like this after inspecting it for underlying corrosion.

It also indicateds that the airline is trying to cut costs.

I flew for Piedmont before the US Air merger and they used to wax their aircraft before they left the maint. hangar. After the US Air merger I flew aircraft that were not polished (US Air's paint scheme then) but actually had a greenish tint to the oxidized metal.

It says a lot about the airline, it would be like sowing up to work in tattered clothes and expecting customers to take you seriously.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:26 am

You cant make a silk purse out of a sow's a$$. Sadly, this planes outer appearance (and probably inner as well) makes for a perfect visual metaphor for the mangements decision making ability.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:47 am

Watching this planes in person and then reading the news that Usairways has been near or on bankruptcy for a long time will get people wondering about the overall condition of these planes.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:12 am

Quoting Flaps (Reply 15):
mangements decision making ability

the state of US legacy airlines. Can we not slam management for the cuase of all ills for once? It takes everyone down to the formerly 60,000 a year bag smasher to ruin an airline.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Managemen

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:21 am

Quoting 1millionflyer (Reply 17):

the state of US legacy airlines. Can we not slam management for the cuase of all ills for once? It takes everyone down to the formerly 60,000 a year bag smasher to ruin an airline

...Or perhaps the outsourced "Earl Scheib' paint jobs from Fla, Ms, NM....

Just ran the numbers; 60K/year comes out to 28 and change per hour. Doubtful any legacy carrier bag smashers made that coin, certainly not at US.

The 37 vice presidents of closet space? ( I can be hyperbolic too Yeah sure )

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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:22 am

NEW PAINT IS COMING.

Stay tuned. New livery coming soon, once the merger gets flowin'. This has been reported in many places.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:27 am

I heard from reliable sources that a gian seagull took a crap on this bird, hence the white spots ...
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting HR001 (Reply 16):
Watching this planes in person and then reading the news that Usairways has been near or on bankruptcy for a long time will get people wondering about the overall condition of these planes.

USAirways may be saving money in some areas, but the safety of its planes is out of the question. Now, if we were talking about AS.... Just kidding. Big grin
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Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:36 am

that is actually 19.50 an hour plus standard benfits and related taxes the company pays for the employee (state and federal unemployment, FICA/Federal match, insurance, admin costs and training)

before 2001 a 15 yr + bag smaher easily could do 19.5/hr.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:36 am

I flew N530AU last fall, the other side isn't in that bad of shape, unfortunately there's only photos of it from the one side in the database; if from the aesthetics point of view, the jetway would usually block the view of the bad side from boarding passengers... just my $.02 Smile
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Managemen

Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:39 am

Quoting Supa7E7 (Reply 19):
NEW PAINT IS COMING.

Stay tuned. New livery coming soon, once the merger gets flowin'. This has been reported in many places.

No! I must be the only person on the face of the Earth that loves the current US Airways paint scheme. It is probably my favorite or near favorite. That and United's "Battleship Gray."

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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:40 am

Quoting Aa757first (Reply 24):
I must be the only person on the face of the Earth that loves the current US Airways paint scheme

make that 2  Wink
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Managemen

Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:58 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 22):
that is actually 19.50 an hour plus standard benfits and related taxes the company pays for the employee (state and federal unemployment, FICA/Federal match, insurance, admin costs and training)

Ahh. That's techincally true but also specious...at least if not applied to upper management as well. To do anything else is a distortion beyond a reasonable comparison. An hourly employee's "salary" can be inflated for the sake of argument by including benefits etc ( a comon talking point amongst the business press ) but then it is also in vogue amongst upper management apologists/boosters to just list their basic salary so as to make their total compensation appear reasonably low. Studiously ignored are items such as stock options/bonuses/company housing and cars/generous parachutes, usually accompanied by a sheepish "well...yeah" when brought to light. These come to light in a full debate, rarely, if ever, are mentioned in labor-bashing business press soundbites.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:59 am

Quoting UsAirways16bwi (Reply 25):
Quoting Aa757first (Reply 24):
I must be the only person on the face of the Earth that loves the current US Airways paint scheme

make that 2

Make that 3.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:26 am

I'm gonna miss the America West livery myself.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:39 am

Quoting DIA (Thread starter):
C'mon Management

What do you think there's some greedy manager in his office with a big check book saying "sorry ah no paint jobs today cause IM taking the money home" Come on! Their broke.. help em out go buy a full Y class ticket.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:49 am

Quoting NKP S2 (Reply 27):
Make that 3.

Aw heck, make it 4. Big grin
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:20 am

Quoting NKP S2 (Reply 26):
An hourly employee's "salary" can be inflated for the sake of argument by including benefits etc ( a comon talking point amongst the business press )

Again, do you think your paycheck automatically generates, clears the bank and gets balanced to the income statement with no help form accountants, your pay includes things that don't get paid on your check and that is a cost to the company for you being there.

Quoting NKP S2 (Reply 26):
Studiously ignored are items such as stock options/bonuses/company housing and cars/generous parachutes, usually accompanied by a sheepish "well...yeah" when brought to light

Have you heard of Sarbanes Oxley? read ANY publicly traded company's financials and you will see EVERY thing above disclosed in detail, no "Well yeahs" needed.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:28 am

Well, don't make it 5.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:33 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 31):
Have you heard of Sarbanes Oxley?

What you are referring to is actually disclosure related not Sarbanes Oxley (SarBox).

SarBox has to do with controlled access to company computer resources. We just went through a SarBox audit...what a royal pain in the bum. Now Director approval is required for menial things like adding/deleting a user from a certain e-mail distro groups...

Either way, we're way off thread. That plane looks like crap, but I wouldn't waste time painting it now with the merger coming.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:38 am

SOX (as it's known in big 4 consulting) regulates disclosure of information and conisistency for additional procedural compliance with GAAP. (on top of the items you mentioned abouve plus a lot of other things neither of us mentioned.

So like you said, back to the thread...the paint for that plane should only be about 70K
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:42 am

Seriously, what was wrong with this? Cheap, looks good...


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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Managemen

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:50 am

I agree with Adipasqu. Bring back the silver! I personally liked this livery better, though.



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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:54 am

Quoting MQrampBOS (Reply 36):

I actually agree with you MQrampBOS, I was just afraid of getting flamed for wanting the old USAir font back as well. That 732 has never looked better!!! Bring back the silver!!!
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Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:59 am

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 37):
I actually agree with you MQrampBOS, I was just afraid of getting flamed for wanting the old USAir font back as well. That 732 has never looked better!!! Bring back the silver!!!

Well, the old font sure had a lot more style than that Times New Roman they later put on. I wish they could do a modern adaptation of it. Now let everyone else flame me!
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:12 pm

I buy the farmed out, cheapo paint job theory. If the paint job had been done properly, and was just old, it would be equally dull all over, but it wouldn't look like the a/c has leprosy. If U make the lead picture as big as U can and look fwd, above & behind the N no. U can see the paint job has already been repaired.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:23 pm

Quoting Adipasqu (Reply 35):
Seriously, what was wrong with this? Cheap, looks good...



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They didn't keep it polished. I've flow this airplane and as I said before they used to let the aluminum oxidize. Gave a nice green tint to the upper fuselage.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:28 pm

Quoting Patrickj (Reply 40):
They didn't keep it polished. I've flow this airplane and as I said before they used to let the aluminum oxidize. Gave a nice green tint to the upper fuselage.

Sounds like they were a little too cheap.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:32 pm

I took this photograph. It was under unusual conditions. Normally, they simply don't use 15R. That unto itself was a treat! I saw this old heap approaching and had no intention of shooting it. Then I saw the state it was in so I shot a sequence. It's really not a very good photo. Nonetheless, I'm pleased that it has been accepted!
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:57 pm

And to think these losers (US management) want a salary raise is even scarier.
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:02 pm

Is that picture under the "special paint scemes"?
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:08 pm

Whilst I know that money is tight, I think appearance is important.

If punters see an aircraft that looks tatty on the outside, then they worry about MX on the inside.

That said, there is no point re painting the entire aircraft if the colour scheme is about to change or RTL the aircraft.
 
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Managemen

Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:09 pm

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 31):
Again, do you think your paycheck automatically generates, clears the bank and gets balanced to the income statement with no help form accountants, your pay includes things that don't get paid on your check and that is a cost to the company for you being there.

Of course not, although you're clearly setting up a strawman just so you can knock it down through selective use of statistics: You clearly intended to plant the notion into the casual observer's mind that baggage handlers pulled in 60K until forced to parse when challenged. I still stand by my assertion; The corporate media will dutifully downplay upper management perks/benefits as a percentage of their total compensation while emphasizing same of hourly employees.

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 31):
Have you heard of Sarbanes Oxley? read ANY publicly traded company's financials and you will see EVERY thing above disclosed in detail, no "Well yeahs" needed.

Again with the strawman. Of course any digging or research will provide a more thorough analyisis than what the casual and often apathetic reader will glean from the mainstream media. For now ( and for some time ) corporate spokesmen are quite deft at using the media as "useful idiots" in negotiations. Tell me the last time you've seen or heard company spokesmen/spokeswomen divulge executive compensation without being pressed....though they'll be chomping at the bit to inflate the cost of its employees. Ask to see the ( cooked? ) books and they'll look at you like you've hit them below the belt.

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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:03 pm

Quoting Ramerinianair (Reply 44):
Is that picture under the "special paint scemes"?

I believe it wa a "hybrid" livery  Smile
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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:55 pm

Quoting NKP S2 (Reply 46):
Tell me the last time you've seen or heard company spokesmen/spokeswomen divulge executive compensation without being pressed....

Wow man you are just not understanding. there is nothing to hide, it all has to be disclosed in the 10K filing which is all veiwable by ANYONE by going to the SEC EDGAR database.

I was a former CFO of a conglomerate company with 400 employees in multiple states many years ago and now work as a senior consultant to Fortune 500 companies, including financial and accounting consulting to a division of a 1 billion dollar company. I can assure you I am not making this up.



http://investor.usairways.com/EdgarD...345&FID=1193125-05-94244&SID=05-00

116 pages of detail and 32 exihibits, nothing hidden here especially this:

Table of Contents
Item 11. Executive Compensation



The information required by Item 402 of Regulation S-K appears under the captions “Proposal 1 – Election of Directors,” “Executive Officers,” and “Human Resources Committee Interlocks and Insider Participation” in the Company’s definitive Proxy Statement to be filed pursuant to Regulation 14A relating to the Company’s Annual Meeting of Stockholders on May 19, 2004 and is incorporated herein by reference



Stock option costs are listed here

http://investor.usairways.com/EdgarD...=701345&FID=701345-04-25&SID=04-00

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RE: Plane Embarrassing USAirways - C'mon Management!

Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:58 pm

Vote me as CEO, and I PROMISE that the first priority of mine for my bankrupt airline will be to repaint all of the planes..  Yeah sure.. It seems to work for United.
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