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jetpixx
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Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:48 am

What kind of passenger loads do Midwest/Skyway get in places such as CLE, GRB and MQT? I see they only have three times per week flights to MKE on the 328 jets from CLE and twice daily on the weekends. It seems like they are keeping a station open for no really good reason. How much money could they make with these uncomfortable and unpopular jets, competing against CO? I know they used to operate DC-9s in to CLE, but now it is just small stuff. It seems like it would make more sense flying out of CAK for them, but maybe not.

Also, what kind of business do they do out of GRB and MQT with their B1900s? I am curious, as I was up at MQT and was surprised to see Skyway.
 
FlapsDown20
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RE: Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:01 pm

Exception #1, the Dornier 328s are far from uncomfortable for a regional jet. In fact, they are THE most comfortable regional jets flying today with the tallest cabin unlike the COEX tubes that I have been subjected to.

As to loads on MKE-GRB and MKE-MQT, I couldn't find any loads on the GRB runs that were under 70% this week with the exception of an early morning and late evening run when they were around 50% LF. MKE-MQT has three a day weekdays and all of those runs on a normally weaker Monday schedule were at or better than 50% LF.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:11 pm

Also the weekday level of CLE-MKE flying that Midwest Connect does is four per day, not "three times per week". Cleveland is a significant market for Midwest Connect.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:55 pm

Quoting Flapsdown20 (Reply 1):
In fact, they are THE most comfortable regional jets flying today with the tallest cabin unlike the COEX tubes

I take it you're not over 6' tall or you haven't ridden the 328 for over an hour. The only difference between the ERJ and 328 seats is that the ERJ seats are 7/10th of an inch narrower than the 328. So where is the true comfort, 328 slow, ERJ fast.

When talking about the B1900D, remember that it is a cheap airplane fly and doesn't take much to brake even. Skyway wouldn't be flying where it flies if we weren't making any money off that route.

[Edited 2005-06-19 16:57:56]
Good Luck to all Skyway Pilots! It's been great working with you!
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:17 am

Actually the loads to and from Cleveland are good. There are many days where the flights are just about sold out. I wish we would run a 717 on that route.. at least once daily in addition to the RJ flights.
 
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knope2001
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RE: Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:15 am

>>I take it you're not over 6' tall or you haven't ridden the 328 for over an hour. The only difference between the ERJ and 328 seats is that the ERJ
seats are 7/10th of an inch narrower than the 328.<<

I suppose this is a subjective opinion, but I'll take the 328 any day over the ERJ and especially the CRJ. The cabin is definitely more comfortable on the 328. And I'm 6'3" and have flow the 328 to both Hartford and Washington, as well as Minneapolis, Grand Rapids, Cleveland and Indy many times. The only thing the ERJ has over the 328 in comfort is the huge bathroom.

The 328 is definitely slower than the other two, but it doesn't translate into much of a penalty until you get relatively long legs.
 
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RE: Midwest Airlines Pax Loads

Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:05 pm

Thank U Knope, see you over at the other site again soon.

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