N270FT
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American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:38 pm

Hi, yesterday I flew American Airlines B757 (economy) from MIA-MCO and found the cabin configuration to be quite claustrophobic. When comparing this to the other aircraft in AA's fleet, particularly the 737-800 I was shocked to find that this plane was so uncomfortable!! First, how old are the 757's and why did AA chose to configure them in such a way?



Anyway, I'm sad now as I have to go home on Wednesday!!


A.W.

[Edited 2005-06-20 05:53:45]
 
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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:48 pm

Quoting N270FT (Thread starter):
This also got me thinking about other airlines and their 757's, and it made me realize that it doesn't matter what plane it is but how different airlines configure them.

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ckfred
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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:53 pm

Unlike the 737s, MD-80s, and the Boeing widebodies, which only had 1 additional row of coach added, the 757s and A300s got two rows added. They now have the configuration that they had prior to More Room Throughout Coach (MRTC), which was launched in early 2000.

AA has decided to use the 757s on routes that directly compete against LCCs or that carry a substantial volume of leisure traffic. So, they tend to go to leisure destinations like MCO and LAS. They are also being used on some flights between ORD and STL, since WN has a lot of flights between MDW and STL.

The theory is that people are not willing to pay a premium for extra legroom. Since AA must match fares of competing LCCs, and flights to leisure destinations don't carry much business traffic (i.e., fewer business passengers paying unrestricted fares), AA is trying to get extra revenue by putting more seats in the fleet.

I think the pitch in coach on the 757 is 31 inches, which is tight for a major carrier. I have heard that some charter carriers have pitches of 30 or even 29 inches.

A pitch of 31 inches for a shorter flight, like MIA-MCO isn't unpleasant, but I've been on the 757 on ORD-SFO before MRTC. It's not very comfortable, particularly if you don't have an opportunity to get up and stretch one's legs.
 
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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:58 pm

Yeah, I wouldn't like the Hawaii flights or the BOS-MAN on it. I was just commenting that I'm used to an excellent product on AA. But this was the first AA757 that I have been one and i was not impressed.

US Air's 757's are very nicely configured.
 
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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:02 pm

Plus the AA 757 has an "old" style interior, while the 738 has a "new" style interior. The First seats on the AA 757 are criminal. This is an AA thing because of the cost of switching out the huge fleet of 757s with a more modern interiors.

You don't find this different feeling on a CO738/CO757 as both have similar interiors.
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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:35 pm

I detest the economy interior on AA's 757s. I avoid it wherever possible. That's mostly because of those old, uncomfortable seats with ugly green seatcovers. Which is a shame because as an aircraft I very much enjoy the 757 in most cases. The 757 doesn't deserve such ill treatment, I say. On the other hand, as lame as the First seats are on that plane, I somehow enjoy them. Upgrading on the 75 is no question for me, whereas on the MD-80, for example, I generally don't bother because I actually find the Y seats more comfortable.
 
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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:46 pm

Since when were the old AA seat covers green?? I thought they were light blue? Unless of course, they turned green...in which case, I don't want to know  Wink

But yeah, its an AA thing. I've flown 757s of British Airways, American Airlines, Continental Airlines and Northwest Airlines. It's most definately a problem specific to AA because they have not updated the interiors. However, they are starting to recover the existing seats with the new fabric apparently... may not do much for comfort, but aesthetics are half the battle.

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RE: American Airlines 757

Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:46 pm

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 2):
AA has decided to use the 757s on routes that directly compete against LCCs or that carry a substantial volume of leisure traffic. So, they tend to go to leisure destinations like MCO and LAS. They are also being used on some flights between ORD and STL, since WN has a lot of flights between MDW and STL.

They also use the 757's for some international routes where there is no LCC competition and it is a nightmare to fly on them... Try flying the Monday morning MIA-MEX flight and it is a disgrace. That flight is normally overbooked; 40% of the airplane are GOLDs, PLATs and EXP's with carry on bags that take all the overhead bins; you don't get a proper meal compared to what you get on other airlines flying the route (meaning MX and AM only); and lowest fare for O&D MEX-MIA is US$350+Taxes.
AA used to have a B738 on the route, but now you only get a choice of AB6 and 757... The truth is that passengers flying AA on this route just do it because of the great connectivity they get through AA's MIA hub and to the corporate contracts their companies have with AA!!

AA, bring back the B738's to the MEX-MIA and MEX-ORD routes!!
 
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RE: American Airlines 757

Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:35 am

Im flying hnl to lax witch looks like its gona be a aa 757.Realy not looking foward to it.What do aa use on the lax to miami please dont say 757.
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RE: American Airlines 757

Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:29 am

As far as I know, the LAX-MIA routes with all 757s with the excpetion of 1 767-300 per day.

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RE: American Airlines 757

Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:35 am

LAX-MIA is 2x 767, 3x 757

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RE: American Airlines 757

Tue Jun 21, 2005 4:44 am

Rojo:

You won't see a 737-800 for a long time on ORD-MEX. All the 737s have been pulled from all hubs and moved to MIA. So, the only time you will see a 737 at ORD is if there is an emergency.

I never understood why AA didn't put new seats in the 757s, when the MD-80s and 767s received new seats. They are by far the nicest coach seats, and the first-class seats are far better than the old leather seats.

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