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Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:42 am

My brother and his wife will be traveling for the first time with their 4 month old baby and I was wondering If a car seat can be put on a airplane seat(considering I buy the extra seat for the baby) how does it work? Is the baby supposed to be on the parents lap for the whole duration of the flight? Thanks for all the answers, I know I'll get the best answers here.
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:49 am

Actually on longhaul there are bulkhead seats in the middle block that have baby cribs folding out. Depends on the airline and the equipment... please tell us which route and airline your brother's family will be travelling, and I'm sure somebody will have a good answer for you.
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:49 am

Two ways to fly with a baby...
1. Buy a seat (at 50% price of adult), bring your car seat, strap him in, leave him! Assuming you have a new seat, it should be ok to fly. Look on the side, there should be a sticker with the statement that the seat meets all regulations for use in autos and all regs for use in aircraft when the installed harness is used. keep in mind that if you have a seat that detaches from its base (for use in a stroller) you will have to lug the base around with you for it ot be legal.

2. Don't buy a seat and hold the baby in your lap the entire flight.

I would make my decision based on how far you are traveling. If you have a short flight, say three hours or less, save the bucks and hold the kid. If you are traveling longer, or have long connections go for the seat. I am traveling HNL-DEN-BIL soon with my newborn. No way would he be comfortable being just held that long! (not to mention mom and dad won't be comfortable holding him!)
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:50 am

Yep, as long as you purchase the seat for the child, the car seat is allowed.

As a parent and airline pilot, I would reccomend that you ensure that the car seat is FAA approved. You can look on the paperwork that comes with the carseat or check with the car seat company's web-site. Also when you make the reservation, tell them it's for an infant and their car seat.

Hope this helps!

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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:54 am

They can check the airline website or call to verify which car seats are considered approved for aircraft seats, they can probably do a google search for "approved child seats FAA' and get the list as well.


If they buy the seat and have an approved child seat they can just board and strap the little baby in.
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 5:56 am

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 2):
. Buy a seat (at 50% price of adult), bring your car seat

what airline has that policy? most every airline I have flown on makes no differentiation on who is in the seat.
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:02 am

Get the crib. Ask for it when you buy the ticket. If they can't reserve you a crib, arrive early at the airport and ask for it then. That's the best way to travel with an infant.
If you can't get a crib, yes, the car seat will work. I never actually bought a seat for my infant but always bring the car seat and so far I've been lucky in finding an empty seat for the car seat, 4 out of 5 times so far.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:31 am

ALso be sure to double-check your seat assignments at the gate so as to avoid any problems with oxygen masks, etc. Some of the Douglas A/C with a 3-2 config don't have enough masks, or at least some F/As get wigged out about it. Also, the carseat will have to go on a window non-emergency row.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:40 am

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 6):
Get the crib. Ask for it when you buy the ticket

Mosrt airlines have discontinued this service. Air France specifically has a placard on the bulkheads in 777 that states "No Cribs allowed"
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 6:53 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 8):
Mosrt airlines have discontinued this service. Air France specifically has a placard on the bulkheads in 777 that states "No Cribs allowed"

That's the first I've heard and it's really odd. Some of the airlines I know for a fact that have it are: BA, LH, SQ, LX. I'm sure many more, if not the great majority. This only applies to wide-body long haul aircraft, of course.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:05 am

1MillionFlyer, and others curious...
United's infant fare policy is 50% of adult fare if you want to use a car seat. If an airline is charging full fare for an infant, it sounds like IT'S TIME TO FLY on another carrier!
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 9):
That's the first I've heard and it's really odd. Some of the airlines I know for a fact that have it are: BA, LH, SQ, LX. I'm sure many more, if not the great majority. This only applies to wide-body long haul aircraft, of course.

Ah...the US airlines do not offer this service

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 10):
United's infant fare policy is 50% of adult fare if you want to use a car seat. If an airline is charging full fare for an infant, it sounds like IT'S TIME TO FLY on another carrier!

wow that's great, I didn't know UA did that. Do you have to do the baby's reservation in the same PNR as the parent?
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:33 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 11):
Ah...the US airlines do not offer this service

Yes they do. Here are just a few:
http://www.continental.com/travel/specialneeds/infants/default.asp
http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,1051,00.html

I'm starting to doubt your comment about AF.

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 10):
1MillionFlyer, and others curious...
United's infant fare policy is 50% of adult fare if you want to use a car seat.

For all classes of service? I'd be very surprised if that was the case.
Usually that doesn't apply to the hevily discounted fares, which are often the kinds of fares people who travel with infants are usually on.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:38 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 8):
Quoting Airbazar (Reply 6):
Get the crib. Ask for it when you buy the ticket

Mosrt airlines have discontinued this service. Air France specifically has a placard on the bulkheads in 777 that states "No Cribs allowed"

That's not what Air France's web site says:

http://www.airfrance.us/cgi-bin/AF/U...=cccfaddelmmmmiicefecekedfnfdfnm.0

I knew that was unusual. I never hear of any half decent airline not offering cribs in their widebody long-haul aircraft.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:42 am

well I sat on an AF777 at the bulkhead on September of 2003 and it stated no baby cribs, maybe they have since recanted that policy.

I might add in over 30 Atlantic ocen segments I have never seen a crib at the bulkhead on the following airlines:

AA
CO
AF
KL
DL

from the CO Website "select international/ transcontinental "

apparently the Trans-Atlantic segments don;t have these, becuase there were plenty of babies on all these flights

[Edited 2005-06-21 00:45:01]
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 7:49 am

I believe

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 12):
For all classes of service?

I am not 100% sure if it will apply to first or business, but if you read the policies on their website regarding traveling with infants it states the infant fare will be 50% of the accompanying adult's fare.

Quoting Airbazar (Reply 12):
Usually that doesn't apply to the hevily discounted fares

Well, do a search on travelocty or orbitz with an "infant in seat" included a as a passenger. You will see the discount applied to the lowest quoted fare. United's website, for some odd reason, will not do the infant... they direct you to telephone res.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:00 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 14):
apparently the Trans-Atlantic segments don;t have these, becuase there were plenty of babies on all these flights

It's possible but I doubt it very much. Most of the time the passengers don't even know thay can request such a thing. Trust me, when we do it, there are always other passengers who comment on "how they wish they knew about it". Also, those seats are not reserved for passengers with "crib needs". It's first come first serve, just like pretty much every other seat. They're actually very hard to get because some passengers will actually book those seats because of the bulkhead "feature".

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 15):
Well, do a search on travelocty or orbitz with an "infant in seat" included a as a passenger.

And when you go to actually book it and pay for it it tells you that fare is not available. Been there, done that.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:28 am

My personal Experiences:

- Most of the European airlines (Air France, Iberia) will not let you use child car seat. Some of the European carriers have their own car seat (Virgin).

- Most of the US carriers let you use you own car seat without any problem.

- Bulkhead seats have the crib but the seat itself is not that wide and you cannot remove the elbow rest.

- Singapore airlines called us two days before departure and got our kids weights and the formula they drink!

- Emirates and Virgin give a lot of toys and other stuff to kids to keep hem busy.

- Emirates has very good kids meal options.

Good airlines to travel with kids: Emirates, Singapore, Air Canada
Least Kids friendly: Air France, United.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:37 am

Doesn't Emirates have a "sky nanny?"
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:46 am

Quoting 727EMflyer (Reply 2):
2. Don't buy a seat and hold the baby in your lap the entire flight.

My experiences (3 year old has taken 50 flights!):

If you DO go for option 2 (i.e., lap) consider bringing the car seat anyway (you can gate-check it so that it is delivered to you at the aircraft door) and ask at check in whether there is a spare seat on the flight. In my experience, airlines will ALWAYS let you bring the car seat on board for the baby if there is room. The only difficulty is that if the flight is nearly full it may be necesary to ask other passengers to move...
Also, sometimes the airline will block a 3-seat section for you (if that is still available), so get to the airport early.

Re the discounts:

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 5):
at airline has that policy? most every airline I have flown on makes no differentiation on who is in the seat

you may get the discount off a more expensive fare (especially for international travel); on LCC's and on many discounted fares (speaking of AC now) they just charge the same discounted fare as an adult.
 
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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:50 am

If you ever come to Australia, the car seat needs to be approved by the CAA, and this is shown as a symbol on the side of the carrier. For non-Aus chairs there is a website that you can check out. You need to call QANTAS or the airline for details.

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RE: Baby Car Seat On An Airplane

Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:10 pm

For everyone who replied many thanks, I couldn't log on all day to reply to specific questions. The flight is LGA-ATL which is a relatively short flight on Airtran. Thanks for all the replies as they will be taking a long haul flight and this info sure will help.
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