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How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Thu Jun 23, 2005 11:46 pm

We used to periodically have threads about how many Delta aircraft were left in the classic widget colors. Now, sadly, they're all gone.

But just today as I went biking along the outskirts of TXL, I saw a DL 767-300 in the so-called "old new" colors. I'm curious if anyone can tell me how many Delta a/c are left in this livery (by a/c type) and how much time it will probably take to repaint them all into "Deltaflot" colors.

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 3:23 am

Here they are, I don't work for DL so people can correct me on some of them:

737-200: (5)

N242WA
N304DL
N306DL
N311DL
N317DL

737-300: (10)

N222DZ SHUTTLE
N224DA SHUTTLE
N225DL SHUTTLE
N231DN SHUTTLE
N305WA
N311WA
N947WP
N948WP
N951WP
N952WP

737-800: (21)

N372DA
N373DA
N374DA
N375DA
N376DA
N377DA
N378DA
N379DA
N380DA
N381DN
N382DA
N383DN
N384DA
N385DN
N386DA
N387DA
N388DA
N389DA
N390DA
N391DA
N392DA

757-200: (17)

N601DL
N604DL
N607DL
N609DL
N611DL
N612DL
N615DL
N616DL
N621DL
N623DL
N626DL
N627DL
N629DL
N633DL
N652DL
N657DL
N689DA

767-200: (2)

N109DL
N110DL

767-300: (27)

N1201P
N122DL
N128DL
N130DL
N143DA
N144DA
N152DL
N153DL
N154DL
N1602
N1604R
N1605
N16065
N1607B
N1608
N1609
N1610D
N1611B
N171DN
N172DN
N175DN
N192DN
N193DN
N195DN
N196DN
N198DN
N199DN

767-400: (0)

777-200: (0)

MD-88: (14)

N904DE
N904DL
N925DL
N933DL
N937DL
N938DL
N939DL
N940DL
N941DL
N949DL
N950DL
N953DL
N956DL
N967DL

MD-90: (0)

This is not totally accurate, but should be pretty close.

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:42 am

There are 110 still in the '97 livery. Some of these are parked, but still a part of DL.

Here is the list by ship number -
737-200 - 8
304, 306, 309, 311, 317, 322, 378, 379

737-300 - 14
205, 208, 209, 210, 211, 221, 222, 224, 225, 231, 251, 252, 253, 254

737-800 - 20
3701-3704, 3707-3722

757-200 - 20
601, 604, 607, 609, 611, 612, 616, 621, 623, 626, 627, 629, 633, 652, 657, 687-690, 692

767-200 - 2
109, 110

767-300 - 31
122, 128, 130, 171, 172, 175, 192, 193, 195, 196, 198, 199, 1201, 1403, 1404, 1502-1504, 1506, 1602, 1604-1612, 1701, 1705

MD-88 - 15
925, 926, 929, 938, 940, 941, 949, 950, 953, 956, 959, 967, 990, 996, 9004

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
N615DL

This just completed Song livery. Also 640 is being repainted into Song as well.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:51 am

Thanks guys, great info! I hadn't realized that all the 777s are in new colors already. With over 100 aircraft left in the 97 colors, I guess it will be quite a while before they're all painted.
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:28 am

DeltaMIA,

Not to be picky, but N926DL was photographed on jetphotos.net in the new colors. Also, any info on when the next 757 will be painted in the new colors?

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:50 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 4):
Not to be picky, but N926DL was photographed on jetphotos.net in the new colors.

I failed to mention that this list is as of 06/05/05. I wasn't certain of which ones have been painted in the mean time.
I don't have a schedule, but 640 is being painted currently from the New colors to Song.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:53 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
777-200: (0)

Well I'll always have my model of Ship 7001 (N860DA) to remind of how good the 777-200 looked in the Ron Allen colors. Of my DL models I have, the only other one in the ONC is an MD-11.
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:20 am

Yesterday I saw a 737-200 depart CLE in those colors.


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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:49 am

Are there still any DL connection aircraft in the "WIDGET" colors?
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:08 am

Are there still any DL connection aircraft in the "WIDGET" colors?

To my knowledge, Business Express was the only connection carrier to have the 'Delta Widget' on the tail. ASA, Comair and Skywest all flew under their own colors at that time. All of these are from the same pre-'97 'widget' era.

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:13 am

There are no more Widget colors. The 737 list is tough to pin down right now. I'll get the list of retirement aircraft tonight. Last I looked there were seven 737 sitting on the ramp without titles. These planes are still showing up on the paint master list.

I believe 640 is painted but the interior mod is still on going. 613 should be the next Song paint. 940 is currently in paint to be followed by 990 and 996.
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:20 am

It is so sad that N140LL was painted and I was like wow! but once you got inside, it was still the old interior  Sad I lost confidence
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:24 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
To my knowledge, Business Express was the only connection carrier to have the 'Delta Widget' on the tail. ASA, Comair and Skywest all flew under their own colors at that time.

OO and OH each flew in their own version of a matching DL Connection livery.


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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:26 am

We saw 4 here in savannah today (2 757's, a 737-800 and an MD-80). How many of the Comair CRJ's are still in the old color (With the blue tail and COMAIR painted in white)? All of the CRJ's here in SAV today were painted like this, and we usually only see a couple. Thanks.

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:30 am

The question was 'Widget' era... not current and '97...and note, still not 'widget' on the tails.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:37 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 14):
The question was 'Widget' era

Right and I posted pictures of the aircraft from that era. While they don't contain the widget on the exterior of the plane I would consider them widget era paint jobs. Despite the lack of the widget they do maintain the Blue and red cheatlines leading to a black nose.

and to answer the original question...

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
Are there still any DL connection aircraft in the "WIDGET" colors?

Yes OH and OO are still flying CRJ's delivered and painted prior to the introduction of the 1997 scheme.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 10:52 am

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 15):
Yes OH and OO are still flying CRJ's delivered and painted prior to the introduction of the 1997 scheme

I'm pretty sure OH isn't flying any more jets in the old "Widget" livery. I've spotted 96% of the Comair fleet, and everything I have seen is at the latest in the Allen or Mullin (I have some Widgets spotted, but they have since been respotted by me and repainted), and a quick look through the database of the planes I haven't nailed are all in the New Colours (except for 821CA which is in the Allen). Last time I saw an OH jet in the Widget was in April 2004...

I did see a pair of OO CRJs at the Delta gates at SFO last month that were in the Widget.

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:28 am

Does anybody know how many MD88's Delta has in thier fleet?
I've been tracking the planes that I've been on through work and so far I've been on 54 of the MadDogs.
And I have a model of the B727-232 in the (OOC) Widget liverly that I bought from the Flight Store at CVG.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:34 am

Quoting Srbmod (Reply 6):
Of my DL models I have, the only other one in the ONC is an MD-11.

The only DL model I have is of N802DL in o/n/c.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 11:49 am

Why did Delta roll out the "old, new" colors in the first place. It seems like they spent quite a bit of money and resources to paint half of their fleet in "transitional" colors prior to the newest color scheme. Did they really change artistic direction half way through the rollout of the "old, new" scheme?
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:25 pm

Quoting Cvg2lga (Reply 17):
Does anybody know how many MD88's Delta has in thier fleet?

120
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:30 pm

Quoting Cvg2lga (Reply 17):
Does anybody know how many MD88's Delta has in thier fleet?

120 as far as I know.....all factory fresh!

Quoting Jfrworld (Reply 19):
It seems like they spent quite a bit of money and resources to paint half of their fleet in "transitional" colors prior to the newest color scheme.

Not just the planes. Signage all over the route map, and Baggage carts, buildings, jetways etc...not sure about uniforms......wonder what the entire cost of that short-lived rebranding was.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 1:41 pm

THANKS ALOT GUYS!!! Only 66 more 88's to go. And I like the 90's too, I could and sometimes do just stare at those engines all day. Like the 777. I can stand under that, 6'3" and there is still a foot and a half of room to the belly. Off topic gotta go.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 4:21 pm

Quote:
THANKS ALOT GUYS!!! Only 66 more 88's to go. And I like the 90's too, I could and sometimes do just stare at those engines all day.

And what a fabulous site they are. For a big man, you sound quite enamored of those engines!

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 6:55 pm

Shame. I quite liked the Deltaflot colours!

They looked really sharp on the MD-11 in particular. The current eurowhite is nice (the tail certainly) but bland
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:07 pm

Hope to see one of the OldNew Colors @ PDX in a couple of weeks ...
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:01 am

I also loved the 97' color scheme on their MD-11s, They were an awesome site in Orlando back in 2002. I don't know if this has been discussed before, and a bit off topic, but can anyone tell me if Delta still has any 777's in the 2-5-2 config? and if so which a/c numbers are they? I have been on many of their 777s and have only seen the 3-3-3 config. I would appreciate any info. thanks
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:52 am

Quoting Jfrworld (Reply 19):
Why did Delta roll out the "old, new" colors in the first place.

The "old/new" scheme came under the direction of then-CEO Ron Allen. Allen was replaced a few years later by Leo Mullin who directed the changeover to the current scheme.

In the Wall Street Journal last year today's CEO Jerry Grinstein said he dislikes the current scheme. If Delta ever gets its financial house in order I would think the scheme would get changed again.
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:15 am

Quoting ORD (Reply 27):
In the Wall Street Journal last year today's CEO Jerry Grinstein said he dislikes the current scheme. If Delta ever gets its financial house in order I would think the scheme would get changed again.

I actually read quite the opposite, Grinstein said he LIKES the scheme and isn't going to change it.

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sat Jun 25, 2005 2:27 am

My take is Jerry isn't happy with this current Deltaflot livery and it will change once we get out of the woods. By that time the oldest paint jobs will be due for a repaint anyways. At least he has gone back to using the true widget logo.

To update DeltaMIA's list; Ships 251-254 are all removed from the fleet. They are all sitting on the Pad with the titles removed. Ship numbers 315, 316, and 382 are also sitting.
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sat Jun 25, 2005 9:32 am

I hope that 315 is "just sitting" - it was repainted between Nov 04 and April 05 from photographs on the Photo site!! What a waste!

Is there any planning going on?
 
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:44 am

Quoting DALMD88 (Reply 29):
At least he has gone back to using the true widget logo.

 bigthumbsup 

BTW, does anyone know how the transition back to the classic widget is going on the aircraft? I still don't see too many with it yet.
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:53 am

WhiteHatter, Reply 24: "I quite liked the Deltaflot colors." **


The current colors are the Deltaflot colors. Look at Delta's current tails, and then look at Aeroflot's current tails. They're quite similar, hence the Deltaflot name. And although I'm warming up to them, they're still relatively bland and unimaginative.


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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:56 am

MKG,

It's taken me a long time to warm up to Deltaflot. Personally, the classic widget colors were a case of "if it's not broke, don't fix it." So, if Deltaflot goes away, I won't cry. If Deltaflot stays, I would like to see the font for "Delta" change back to "DELTA" in caps. A much stronger image. I think it would be neat to put the large widget over the forward loading door and have the flowing colors start there, go back along the cheatline and then it unfurls on the tail like we have now. I would also be in favor of the classic art-decoish "Delta" script with the wing trailing to come back. Have the "Crown Service" logo make a come back too! 777 "Crown Service." That'd be sweet!  Big grin
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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:57 pm

**As long as I'm here, a question: What's up with the Quote button? Does it just not work in Firefox, or is it broken, or what?

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RE: How Many Delta A/c Left In "old New" Colors?

Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:18 am

Quoting SESGDL (Reply 28):
I actually read quite the opposite, Grinstein said he LIKES the scheme and isn't going to change it.

Check the Wall Street Journal article from August 16, 2004 about Delta's turnaround plan. In the article Grinstein says he does not like the current scheme at all. Although he says nothing about changing it, I wouldn't be surprised if that happens if/when Delta is in a better financial state.

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