Olympus69
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CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:28 am

There was a Convair 5800 'Super Stretch' at YYZ yesterday and I wondered how many of these CV-580 conversions have been done. There are several pics of this one (N381FL) on A.net - it even has a modern glass cockpit.
Who did the original conversion, and when. The name Kelowna Flightcraft springs to mind, but I could be wrong about that.

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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:54 am

Kelowna Flightcraft is correct. I have watched these same aircraft from PTK. They (Contract Air Cargo) are sending a CV-580 or CV-5800 to Toronto almost everyday. You see them in Toronto I am seeing them on the other end of this route.

I think CAC has two or three of these CV-5800

Info on CV-5800 from Kelowna Flightcraft:

http://www.flightcraft.ca/HTMLFiles/convair/Stretch5800.htm
 
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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:55 am

There are only 2 CV-5800s to my knowledge, and Kelowna Flight did both of them. Kelowna is well known in the Convair community for their outstanding maintenance & overhaul work. All of ERA Aviation 580s went to Kelowna for work, and since ERA phased out the 580, Kelowna has been pushing for more 5800 orders & conversions. I believe it takes 2 Convair airframes to make 1 5800. Regards.
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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:03 am

It appears that two parts ridden CV airframes left the east side of the CAC ramp recently. I don't know if they were taken inside for further part removal or totally discarded or.............................
 
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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:47 am

Quoting KarlB737 (Reply 1):
I have watched these same aircraft from PTK. They (Contract Air Cargo) are sending a CV-580 or CV-5800 to Toronto almost everyday.

I have only seen one CV-580 and one CV-5800 at YYZ this year. I guess they must usually come in earlier or later in the day than I'm out there (2 or 3 times a week in spring summer and fall.)
Thanks for the Flightcraft link.
 
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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:35 am

Contract Air Cargo is pretty amazing. They fly those out of PTK to all over North America, including Mexico. They are a nice alternative to see while at work.
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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:51 pm

Well there's one flying around NZ to.

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RE: CV-5800 How Many?

Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:05 pm

There is a total of 4 complete conversions, 3 are flying with Contract Air Cargo and the 4th is with Air Freight NZ. There is a 5th conversion under way in the hangars at Kelowna Flightcraft but no word on when it will be done or who its going to fly for. It only takes one complete airframe to make a CV-5800 if it is starting from a CV-580. The reason 2 airframe where used before was that the original airframes were CV-340's, due to lower hours and cycles, so all that was needed from the second airframe (a 580) was the engine nacelles. The 5800 has an EFIS cockpit installed plus Allison 501-D22 engines. Currently Kelowna Flightcraft is converting 2 CV-580's into CV-580A's, They will have EFIS and D22 engines installed but without the 14ft stretch. These aircraft will be used as Air Tankers for Forest Firefighting use.