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AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:49 am

Good for AA. Probably opened this club in advance of the NRT flight perhaps?

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050628/datu047.html?.v=13
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:54 am

HNL was one of the clubs that was closed post 9/11. People complained to AA that they wanted one and it looks like AA listened. From a AA prespective they got rid of it mainly because HNL is mostly vacation travel but from a customer prespective there are many flights, mostly on widebodies, a day.

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:55 am

On another note, however, Im surprised there was no press release before today saying they were going to open one. The press release comes out a day after the club opens....

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 9:55 am

If I'm not mistaken, American had an Admirals Club in HNL until just a few years ago. My March 1999 issue of American Way shows Admirals Clubs in Honolulu, Phoenix, Detroit, Cleveland, and Nashville - all of which have been closed. Good to hear that HNL is reopening.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:04 am

Hard to believe that AA once had clubs in Detroit and Cleveland.

I'm surprised Phoenix still doesn't have one.
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:20 am

I did not realize this was a re-opening of sorts. Why HNL? I am sure it is not an inexpensive place to operate a club.

Now I am a little naive on the value of these clubs. Would AA really re-open HNL because FF'rs asked for it? I know the article says it will share with QF, but surely that can't be the compelling reason.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:25 am

The club, which began operating June 27, is located airside in the Ewa Concourse, on Level 3 above Gate 26, making inter-island connections easy for customers. Admirals Club customers can take advantage of the many amenities the lounge offers, including:

Gate 26 is a decent walk from the mid-terminal AA depature gates of 17-19.
I've never personally been in the AA Admirals club, was the old one in the garden area mid terminal? Too bad if they were in the garden area before, the garden area is a nice area to relax.
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:31 am

Rumor has it that it really isnt a new club...just that they are using the Qantas club...

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:32 am

Quoting Ssides (Reply 4):
I'm surprised Phoenix still doesn't have one.

AA's operation at Phoenix has dwindled to nothing more than Chicago and Dallas flights.
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:36 am

Isn't the Ewa wing the "international" wing for overseas carriers? If that's the case, they probably will share with QF, similar to LAX.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:38 am

One reason this club was reactivated is to take advantage of UA. There is a big, well-thought-out contingency plan in place at AA ready for action should UA significantly change the way it flies, reorganize, or even disappear. Some of the components of this plan are also useful just for putting pressure on UA even if nothing changes at UA. This is one of them.

It is thought that if UA does some major reorganizing, it will emphasize high yield long range business flying, flying between it's hubs and transcon flying. Low yielding markets (meaning vacation markets) are expected to be axed or severely reduced if UA effects this kind of redistribution of it's flying assets.

If UA gives up some of its traditional strength in HNL in the name of concentrating on business flying, AA wants to have a head start by building loyalty there right now. Also look for AA to explore expanding in the Pacific generally with HNL as a focus city, not exactly today, but within 3-4 years.

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:49 am

The Detroit Club had been there for years. Also DTW and CLE had a healthy amount of flights that AA offered at one time.
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:45 am

Yeah, not a new club, or the old one re-opening. Gate 26 is where the QF club is and is not particularly convenient to AA's gates (17-19).

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:59 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 5):
Why HNL? I am sure it is not an inexpensive place to operate a club.

Because it's not really an Admirals Club. It's just a QF Club that AA will put their name on, just as QF did with the true AA Admirals Club at LAX T4. They were able to utilize another oneworld partner's club at a relatively low cost (much more than actually having their own club) and still be able to offer the product to Admirals Club customers.

Quoting LorM (Reply 6):
Gate 26 is a decent walk from the mid-terminal AA depature gates of 17-19.

It's only about a 10-15 minute walk, not too bad. Plus, walkin between the Ewa Concourse and the Central Concourse, where AA's flights are, means you get to walk outside and enjoy the incredible smell unique to Hawaii: a mix of jet fuel and hibiscus flowers! (I love the smell of both.  Smile)

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 11):
The Detroit Club had been there for years. Also DTW and CLE had a healthy amount of flights that AA offered at one time.

Yep -- other clubs closed post-9/11 included BNA and IAH.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:10 pm

AA's filling in a major gap here for their FF's. Qantas's clubs are some of the best I've visited anywhere, so despite the long walk to the AA gates, it should be a pleasant experience.

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:18 pm

Don't AA ff's have access to Qantas Club's anyway? Or is it only the teired people. I know that here, I can buy Qantas Club membership, and use BA, AA and US lounges if travelling on that day. Is it the same with AA?
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:25 pm

Quoting Wunala (Reply 15):
Don't AA ff's have access to Qantas Club's anyway?

No. Admittances into AA ACs is limited to club members, international F/J passengers (none of these in HNL, not yet, anyway), and oneworld top-tier passengers travelling on any oneworld airline. So, up to this point, AA Gold/Plat/ExecPlat pax travelling out of HNL on AA could use the QF Club, but AA AC members could not. Now, as the club will be co-branded, AC members can.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 1:40 pm

OK, thanks Commavia. Just had a look on aa.com, and it mentions that it is the Qantas Club. It also says that "complimentary coffee, tea, soft drinks, and light snacks" are available. I am assuming that AA pax will have access to the wine, beer and spirits too, or will there be someone employed to ask for id if anyone comes to the bar? LOL.

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 2:18 pm

The location of this Qantas/New Admirals Club is by no means convenient for those traveling out on AA, as it is in a completely different terminal, and as mentioned before, approximately a 10-15 minute walk away. Unless you have an extremely long layover in HNL and have the time to get to/from the club/AA gate ... what's the point?

The old Admirals Club (prior to closing a few years ago) was in the garden area where the majority of the other clubs are located, and of which is just steps from the AA gates. It was a very nice club, and a shame its not the one thats reopening. I can certainly understand the logic behind the new move though (sharing a co-existing oneworld member's lounge).
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Wed Jun 29, 2005 3:32 pm

Quoting Commavia (Reply 13):
Plus, walkin between the Ewa Concourse and the Central Concourse, where AA's flights are, means you get to walk outside and enjoy the incredible smell unique to Hawaii: a mix of jet fuel and hibiscus flowers! (I love the smell of both. )

Hibiscus doesn't really have a smell....its probably plumeria and tuberose from leis scenting the air.

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:05 am

The old club was located on the garden level. It was not the best very small in fact. The staff were ok. It was nothing to write home about.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 16):
. So, up to this point, AA Gold/Plat/ExecPlat pax travelling out of HNL on AA could use the QF Club, but AA AC members could not

Only if the AA Plat/ ExecPlat were making an onward International Connection. Gold does not have lounge access unless traveling in a Premium Cabin. Admirals Club members already had access to the QF lounge. However it was not open during the day in fact was never open around any of AA's flight from HNL you just missed the opening if you were leaving on one of the red-eyes back to the Mainland.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:45 pm

Quoting KKMolokai (Reply 18):
The location of this Qantas/New Admirals Club is by no means convenient for those traveling out on AA, as it is in a completely different terminal, and as mentioned before, approximately a 10-15 minute walk away.

I agree that the QF Club location is definitely inconvenient for AA passengers, since it is a notable detour on the route between the AA ticket counter and AA's gates at the end of the Central Concourse. Though for passengers connecting to or from inter-island flights, it's not too far out of the way.

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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:48 pm

Was in the QF Club at HNL on 5/28. It's tiny - and it is also shared with Phillipine Airlines. We had screaming kids, people standing who could not get a seat etc. For the 3 days a week QF flies from HNL (around 11am) and departing PR and AA flights, it's going to be damn unpleasant in there.
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:37 am

Not worth a visit if its that crowded. NOthing worse then a small room with loud screaming children!
 
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RE: AA Opens Admirals Club In HNL

Tue Jul 05, 2005 4:01 am

Ha!
I flew AA to HNL on the 23rd and left on the 2nd. So it opened during the time I was in the islands. There was no mention of this in HNL at at all. No signs and none of the agents mentioned it either. I didn't catch a press release in the paper over there either. (Then again I was in LNY for a few days)

I remember the old Admiral's Club in HNL, and as said it was rather small. If you went in there mid-afternoon, before the departures to ORD & DFW, that place would be pretty much filled up. I remember the bathrooms were small too. It sort of reminded me of the Admiral's Club in DEN. It is true, that this is back by popular demand. A lot of frequent fliers and elites were very upset at the loss of the HNL Admiral's Club. The lack of this club somewhat watered-down the membership.

Yes, the DTW club closed post-9/11. Back in the day AA had a sizable presence in DTW. Even through the 90's with ORD, DFW, BNA, RDU, then the later dropping to become MIA. Now with ORD, DFW, MIA, & LGA. The only problem is/was that that club was outside security which would be pointless now. AA still have a very loyal following out of DTW. However, it recent years now that NW has sort of cleaned up its act, NW has been taking more corporate contracts that had gone to UA & AA in the past.