sampa737
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MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:18 am

MEM is celebrating her 10th anniversary of AMS nonstop service this week. To formally celebrate, a former KLM boss was flown in. I thought it funny he was flown in via DTW because the MEM flight was full. MEM gets knocked in here quite a bit but even post 9/11, NWAs commitment to the city has not waivered but in fact adding new destinations. In addition, new international routes will be implemented in the next few years, according to the Commercial Appeal article posted Tuesday.
 
BigGSFO
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:29 am

Well the MEM-AMS flight always defied my logic, but congratulations to NW/KL on 10 years of successful flying. This route is code-share/alliance flying at it's best.
 
dutchjet
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:39 am

The AMS-MEM flight has been a surprising success - is it 10 years already?

In the Netherlands and Europe, KL has done a rather good job of marketing the flight as an easy gateway to the Southeastern US......NW does have many connection possibilities available via Memphis and passengers do like the idea of a smaller uncrowded airport. (Many Europe originating passengers find airports like Ohare and Atlanta to be overwhelming for connections.)

Its quite amazing that AMS-MEM has survived and does well, while routes like AMS-MIA and AMS-PHL have been dropped by KL/NW. I understand that KL/NW has the MEM-Europe market all of itself, while there is more competiton at PHL (from US) and MIA (from lots of carriers), its still rather interesting.

Can Memphis support other long-haul international flights as suggested by the recent newspaper article....this was discussed recently here at a.net. I dont think so, but then again, I was wrong about Memphis, so time will tell.
 
sampa737
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:43 am

I think most were surprised at the success. It began as 4x a week and quickly went to daily. I hope MEM can support more.
 
m404
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:31 am

I had to eat my hat on this one. I watched the water cannon arrival in amazement at KL faith in their sales team finding this niche. Then again when schedules built up. Air freight loads have always been their. I've heard that FedEx ships some onboard. I learned from the Dutch passengers I met that AMS has a Blues district that, at least then, was in big favor with music lovers. Tours entered in MEM and exited at ATL.

Many have mentioned the desire for a Japan flight and NW had a continuation from LAX with a change of gauge but It must not have been that successful to warrant more. Whether Paris and AF would have the interest and political arrangements to offer a nonstop will be watched. Either way, this city should be congratulated on it's farsightedness (hopefullness) that got this airport built so much bigger than needs at the time. Of course the concourses are smaller than current fashion but a hub operation really was not in large use at the time it was built. That problem is being addressed in future plans being funded now.

10 years is amazing in the flights singular history and steadfast popularity yet odd that it has not been followed by more. I salute the KLM team that saw the opportunity and had the corporate faith to make it happen. Truly a niche operation that works.
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:38 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 2):
Many Europe originating passengers find airports like Ohare and Atlanta to be overwhelming for connections.

There is nothing fun about connecting in those airports especially in inbound international. I think ORD is probably the worse. Not just in the number of people going through at once but it can be a LONG hike from your international arrival to your domestic departure.

I think this very problem is where smaller airports will end up picking up more international service in the future as the big airports become extremely passenger unfriendly.
Indy = Indianapolis and not Independence Air
 
nwafflyer
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:49 am

Right now, I really question KLM's commitment to North American flights (other than those via Air France). I have tried to book ff flyer flights on KLM, and am not able, even though I can see the available flights on NWA, Continental, Delta, and when I phone NWA, Continental or Delta, they agree that flights are available, however, I must book through KLM

Does anyone else here have this kind of experience? I am a platinum elite with Skyteam, and also platinum with KLM
 
AMSSFO
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:23 am

I recently tried to use Worldperks miles for flights to AMS. Impossible, unless you want to spend twice the amount of regular miles or want to travel in February.
Will I ever be able to actually use my miles???
 
san747
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:14 pm

Wow, I didn't know MEM-AMS was still flown! Congrats...
Scotty doesn't know...
 
AirAmericaC46
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:40 pm

Did KLM operate 747s to MEM? If yes, what 747 type and what year?
Thanks.
 
nosedive
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:41 pm

Quoting AirAmericaC46 (Reply 9):
Did KLM operate 747s to MEM?

AFAIK they didn't. KL did fly the MD-11 and 767 into MEM, NW the DC10
 
m404
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RE: MEM Celebrates 10 Years Of AMS Nonstop

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:14 pm

Actually, many times, but only when something happend to the -11s or 767 like scheduled or non-scheduled maint. Not as a regular scheduled event.
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