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Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:39 am

How many Qantas aircraft are usually in LAX...???

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:06 am

About 7-12 a/c are there. But depends on the time of the day as to really how many are there.

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:44 am

i started a thread on this a while ago and i think the consensus was that there are usually 4 and on rare occasions, 5 there at the same time.
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:41 am

Aren't QF's LAX routes its most profitable? I've heard they make loads of cash on LAX-MEL, LAX-SYD and LAX-AKL
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:52 am

Quoting Ssides (Reply 3):
Aren't QF's LAX routes its most profitable? I've heard they make loads of cash on LAX-MEL, LAX-SYD and LAX-AKL

Yeah, don't forget SYD-LAX-JFK aswell!

Quick question - If you travel from AKL to LAX on QF, can you then transfer at LAX for the flight to JFK?

Isnt the Kangaroo route also one of the most profitable routes for QF?

Will QF ever start SFO!

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 6:28 am

From what I've seen posted here in the past, you can only fly LAX-JFK on Qantas if you originate in Australia. You cannot purchase a LAX-JFK ticket on Qantas. Youl could also fly JFK-LAX, if you continued on to SYD.

Now...if you wanted to waste the money...or rather had the cash at your disposal...you could buy a JFK-LAX-SYD ticket...and just "miss" your connection to SYD, and visa-versa.... Smile
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:04 am

S12PPL, slight correction, you can use the JFK-LAX v.v. sector on Qantas so long as your flight immediately before or immediately after is a Qantas international service. The country of origin is irrelevant, so a person on a oneworld ticket from Peru could use this, or any other Qantas service including codeshares inside the USA. You are totally correct that the JFK-LAX v.v can't be purchased individuallly as cabotage is not allowed on this route. You are allowed to stopover too. So in response the the question about using the service from AKL, you can. Indeed, QF introduced more flights ex AKL to connect with the JFK service.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:11 am

Trolley, Thanks for the correction Smile I knew I was somewhere close, but wasn't too sure on the exact details. That's pretty intersting, though... As long as you continue on from JFK to Europe or so on a One World partner, you are ok to fly LAX-JFK on QF???
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:20 am

If you purchase a ticket with a connection in JFK, from any point outside the US, you can do the QF flight from JFK-LAX. It would be neccessary to conjunct the ticket. Non-REvers can use this flight with no limitations and QF is very good with our airline about supplying passes for this flight.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:21 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Will QF ever start SFO!

QANTAS use to fly SFO/HNL/Australia .. I flew HNL/SFO/HNL on a pass in 1992 .. not sure when they discontinued the service.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:26 am

No. Inbound traffic must have arrived in the USA on QF. Outbound must depart USA on QF. Although a stopover is allowed in LA when using QF's JFK-LAX service, the QF connection must be the flight immediately before or after the domestic sector in the PNR. So long as these rules are met, anyone from any country can use these flights.  Smile

So if you fly SYD-LAX-JFK all on QF, you can connect onto an LA flight to Lima for example. You couldn't do LIM-JFK on LA, JFK-LAX on QF then LAX-NRT on AA, for example.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:33 am

A few years back, it was not uncommon for Non-Revers to use
Air NewZeland Flights from LAX to HNL, or Korean Air flights from SFO to HNL or Japan Airlines or Phillippine Airlines to Honolulu from the coast.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:44 am

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Will QF ever start SFO!

They used to fly to SFO until UA entered the market and they couldn't compete since SFO is one of UA's largest hubs.

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):

Isnt the Kangaroo route also one of the most profitable routes for QF?

Correct
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:56 am

Quoting United Airline (Reply 12):
They used to fly to SFO until UA entered the market and they couldn't compete since SFO is one of UA's largest hubs.

UA started the SFO-SYD route AFTER QF dropped the route. If an airline has a good product, then I belive they will not have a problem competing. CX and SQ compete with UA on the HKG route with no problems.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:04 am

Qantas made a serious strategic error when they dropped SFO-SYD. United has that market all to itself with very high load factors. Qantas thought that Northern California passengers would fly first to LAX and then change carriers and transfer over to Qantas. Like maybe that was real easy to do. United has a cash cow in their SFO-SYD route all to themselves while everyone who flies into LAX sees 5 Qantas 747's parked there and just wonders how Qantas could be so stupid.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:41 am

Quoting Dbba (Reply 14):
United has a cash cow in their SFO-SYD route all to themselves while everyone who flies into LAX sees 5 Qantas 747's parked there and just wonders how Qantas could be so stupid.

Not everyone wonders this. Qantas has all those 744's flying to LAX because they can dump all their passengers onto AA which has a much larger operation at LAX than at SFO. It's all about connections and codeshares and don't forget that virtualy all those 744's that QF flies to LAX are carrying healthy loads of passengers and cargo as well.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:26 am

I guess part of the problem for QF is that they realise if they started SFO it would be a popular idea for many Australians as an entry point to the US and would undermine the profitability of LAX.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:32 am

Irony is that once upon a time QF's only US mainland destination was SFO.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:49 am

Quoting RichardJF (Reply 16):
I guess part of the problem for QF is that they realise if they started SFO it would be a popular idea for many Australians as an entry point to the US and would undermine the profitability of LAX.

In reality who would want to transit through LAX unless they really have to? What a horrible airport! If there's a direct flight to SFO I'd take that any day! (I have had the QF experience of flying to LAX then a horrible transit onto AA to SFO - ironically that flight on an AA MD80 was probably my best flight ever)

Does anyone know what the loadings are like on the QF LAX-JFK sector? I still don't get why QF started this one instead of dumping them at LAX for an AA service to NYC.
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:27 am

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 18):
In reality who would want to transit through LAX unless they really have to?

As I said above, the SFO presence of AA for connections is far, far smaller compared to LAX. It is far easier for QF to fly large numbers of passengers into LAX to meet connecting AA flights to multiple cities than what it is to fly direct to SFO with really no presence for feed. Basically LAX is like a Oneworld focus city for QF/AA the same as SFO is dominated by United and Star.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:34 am

Where do the majority of the QF passengers connect on to while flying with AA?

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:31 am

Quoting 777XI (Reply 20):
Where do the majority of the QF passengers connect on to while flying with AA?

Majority is Mid West and East Coast. Stats I saw a few years ago stated that 2 in 3 Qantas pax arrive/depart on AA at LAX. It's a healthy figure.

SFO derives a lot more leisure traffic than LAX as well, with regard to the abovementioned conversation. QF have often considered returning, however as an O&D destination it doesn't stack up financially. Also considered was a return to YVR via SFO however this was also scrapped.

For the topic starter - if you don't know why QF has split their operation at LAX between T4 and TBIT, if they give up their slots at TBIT they might never get them back again. The customer experience at T4 is seen as far more desirable which is why the flights to/from SYD and most of Melbourne are from here, and BNE/AKL remain at TBIT.

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:51 am

Quoting Dbba (Reply 14):
Qantas made a serious strategic error when they dropped SFO-SYD. United has that market all to itself with very high load factors.

Not at all. QF made a very smart decision to consolidate and dominate -- and they do -- a single market, LAX, and feed all their onward connecting passengers on to AA flighst there. While SFO may be a healthy market, QF can easily dominate LAX-Australia and transfer passengers to SFO onto AA flights at LAX.

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 18):
In reality who would want to transit through LAX unless they really have to? What a horrible airport!

It's not that bad at all, especially if you are going to SYD or arriving from SYD. The MD80 lands from SFO into T4, and you walk a few gates, maybe from 43 or 44 over to 40, to board your QANTAS 747 to SYD. On the return, the 747 lands into LAX T4, you go through customs there, in the terminal, reenter security upstairs, and proceed to your gate. It really isn't that arduous.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 19):
It is far easier for QF to fly large numbers of passengers into LAX to meet connecting AA flights to multiple cities than what it is to fly direct to SFO with really no presence for feed.

Exactly. The numbers of QF passengers going to SYD does not justify QF dedicating 2-3 entire 747 aircraft to that route when it can simply add more and more frequency to LAX and fly people on to SFO on AA flights.

Quoting 777XI (Reply 20):
Where do the majority of the QF passengers connect on to while flying with AA?

All over. The big ones are, not surprisingly, the biggest cities in the U.S. -- ORD, DFW, BOS, JFK, EWR, IAD, MIA, SFO, etc. QF also codeshares on AS flights from LAX to PDX, SEA and YVR to get access to the Pacific northwest.

Quoting Onedude (Reply 21):
Majority is Mid West and East Coast. Stats I saw a few years ago stated that 2 in 3 Qantas pax arrive/depart on AA at LAX. It's a healthy figure.

No doubt about it, QF and AA do quite well by each other at LAX. QF contributes about $100M in revenue to AA's bottom line annually, and I'm sure that the same is roughly true in reverse for AA's assistance to QF's financial performance.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:00 pm

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Will QF ever start SFO!

While I agree that QF stepped out and UA stepped in, it's really hard to start up such a product again after having been out of the SFO-SYD race for so long. I think that with their LAX hub they are more than fine. With AA's code share there is no need for QF to actually start serving SFO with their own aircraft. All AA has to do is put a few more MD-80's to sleep up there.

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:06 pm

Quoting Commavia (Reply 22):
It's not that bad at all, especially if you are going to SYD or arriving from SYD. The MD80 lands from SFO into T4, and you walk a few gates, maybe from 43 or 44 over to 40, to board your QANTAS 747 to SYD. On the return, the 747 lands into LAX T4, you go through customs there, in the terminal, reenter security upstairs, and proceed to your gate. It really isn't that arduous.

Ah, so it must be the time I went thru then. I was on the BNE-AKL-LAX flight (although only from AKL). Landed into T4, long walk to customs, 1 hour queue, collected baggage, had to go to the horrible T3, very long security queue, and finally inside that horrible terminal . . . never again through LAX unless I absolutely have to!

(Not travelling to the US unless I absolutely have to either . . . when I go to Canada again it'll either be AC direct to YVR or a long flight via Asia, anything to avoid American customs)
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:14 pm

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 24):
, had to go to the horrible T3

It's a different experience now. All of AA's flights are in T4 - no more T3 for intra-California/regional mainline flying (thank God). IMO, it's quicker entering the US at T4 than TBIT. I've done both and T4 wins.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:22 pm

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 25):
It's a different experience now. All of AA's flights are in T4 - no more T3 for intra-California/regional mainline flying (thank God).

Absolutely. AA's flights all now arrive and depart from T4. AA has absolutely no operations in T3.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 25):
IMO, it's quicker entering the US at T4 than TBIT. I've done both and T4 wins.

I, too, have done both, and I completely concur. T4 is an absolute pleasure to clear customs through compared with the madhouse that is TBIT.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:29 pm

Quoting Onedude (Reply 21):
if they give up their slots at TBIT they might never get them back again

Plus AA's terminal isn't equipped to handle that many 747's at the same time and continue their normal operations. If the space was there I'm sure QF would have consolidated their presence into AA's terminal.

Quoting Commavia (Reply 26):
T4 is an absolute pleasure to clear customs through compared with the madhouse that is TBIT.

I'll 3rd that. To get off the first QF flight into T4 is an absolute pleasure compared to TBIT because of all the morning flights from Asia coming in. Madhouse is the very nicest you could describe it!!!!
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 2:36 pm

Quoting Boeing727 (Thread starter):
How many Qantas aircraft are usually in LAX...???

How many times has this topic been posted on?

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 3:05 pm

Living near LAX, I go their at least twice a month and always see at least 4 Qantas 744.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:07 pm

Most times when I fly into LAX, there are at least 4 QF 744's parked near the hangers between the north and south complex.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:58 pm

Does QF uses its own equipment on the LAXJFK leg or is codeshare with AA? I am checking my res system and it shows codeshare flights on 762s only
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:07 pm

Quoting ARGinLON (Reply 31):
Does QF uses its own equipment on the LAXJFK leg or is codeshare with AA? I am checking my res system and it shows codeshare flights on 762s only

QF uses their own equipment I believe 3 days a week with a 744.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:21 pm

QF flies Wednesday, Friday and Sunday into JFK with their own 744.




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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:35 pm

Quoting Modesto2 (Reply 30):
Most times when I fly into LAX, there are at least 4 QF 744's parked near the hangers between the north and south complex.


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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:23 pm

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 1):
About 7-12 a/c are there.

It is never that many. The most is 5-6

Quoting Ssides (Reply 3):
Aren't QF's LAX routes its most profitable? I've heard they make loads of cash on LAX-MEL, LAX-SYD and LAX-AKL

Yes they are the most profitable. Fully 40% of QF's profits are derived from LAX flights. Remember as well, they now fly LAX-BNE.

Quoting S12PPL (Reply 5):
you can only fly LAX-JFK on Qantas if you originate in Australia

Not true

Quoting United Airline (Reply 12):
They used to fly to SFO until UA entered the market and they couldn't compete since SFO is one of UA's largest hubs.

No, actually, QF pulled out of the market before UA ever entered it. LAX is also one of UA's hubs and it was QF that forced UA to abandon the LAX-MEL non-stop once they added the 744ER and could undercut the PW4056 powered 744s at UA because of the weight restrictions they have to take.

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Isnt the Kangaroo route also one of the most profitable routes for QF?

Not even close to as profitable as LAX

Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Quick question - If you travel from AKL to LAX on QF, can you then transfer at LAX for the flight to JFK?

Yes you can

Quoting RichardJF (Reply 16):

I guess part of the problem for QF is that they realise if they started SFO it would be a popular idea for many Australians as an entry point to the US and would undermine the profitability of LAX.

Not really. NZ has a rather significant LAX operation that has actually GROWN since they started AKL-SFO.

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 18):
(I have had the QF experience of flying to LAX then a horrible transit onto AA to SFO - ironically that flight on an AA MD80 was probably my best flight ever)

It is a really easy transfer, even when they did go to T3

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 24):
Landed into T4, long walk to customs, 1 hour queue, collected baggage, had to go to the horrible T3, very long security queue, and finally inside that horrible terminal . . . never again through LAX unless I absolutely have to!

Well, thanks, less of a crowd to us natives who love our airport. You can blame AA for the size of their FIS in T4 as they are the ones who built it. Also, why did you collect your checked bags and take them to T3? They should have just interlined them from T4 after customs.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 25):
IMO, it's quicker entering the US at T4 than TBIT. I've done both and T4 wins.

During the morning rush at T4, there is not a chance in the world it is faster than Bradley.
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Fri Jul 01, 2005 12:51 pm

The AKL-LAX flight doesn't arrive in time to connect to the JFK service, QF did have a second service ex AKL before but it was dropped as the aircraft were needed for more MEL-LAX and the new BNE-LAX non stop.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Fri Jul 01, 2005 4:30 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 35):
Quoting S12PPL (Reply 5):
you can only fly LAX-JFK on Qantas if you originate in Australia

Not true

I beg to differ you can only fly the QF metal flights 107/108 LAX-JFK-LAX if originating to/from a Qantas flight due to uplift restrictions. You can still use QF codeshares on AA again though if connecting to a QF international flight.

Quoting N1120A (Reply 35):
Quoting B742 (Reply 4):
Quick question - If you travel from AKL to LAX on QF, can you then transfer at LAX for the flight to JFK?

Yes you can

Not for QF 107 as QF107 departs at 905am whilst QF25 arrives into LAX at 1045am. The first connecting flight on AA codeshare is QF3103 at 1315 hours
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:26 pm

OK so SFORunner's photo shows 4 QF 744s waiting at LAX for departures later on. Where would each one have gone? And would they all have left within a few hours of each other?

It was 14th March this year, which was a Monday if that helps/matters.

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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:31 pm

On that monday there would have been four flights from Australia / New Zealand (2 from SYD / 1 from Melbourne and Auckland)

Over the 2005 Northern Summer however on Fridays / Saturdays / Sundays / Mondays and wednesday will see 6 x arrivals a day from Australia / New Zealand period.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:40 pm

Quoting Legacyins (Reply 13):
UA started the SFO-SYD route AFTER QF dropped the route. If an airline has a good product, then I belive they will not have a problem competing. CX and SQ compete with UA on the HKG route with no problems

There was a non-stop SFO-SYD flight in the late 80s, which I was on. They didn't go to LAX directly because LAX was further away by a few miles, out of range for the 743 non-stop.

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 18):
In reality who would want to transit through LAX unless they really have to? What a horrible airport! If there's a direct flight to SFO I'd take that any day!

As stated, T4 isn't too bad. No matter what, you must clear customs to get through an American transit point unless you are going on internationally and stay in the special transit lounge. This will always suck for pax. Transferring stinks.

Though I must say that IAH does a damn good job of it, or at least they did with Terminal D. Not been in the new international arrivals area, but I would assume it is better than the renovated D customs/imigration center, not worse.
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:59 am

Why don't they fly to JFK daily ?
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:55 am

Quoting VH-KCT* (Reply 38):
OK so SFORunner's photo shows 4 QF 744s waiting at LAX for departures later on. Where would each one have gone? And would they all have left within a few hours of each other?

It was 14th March this year, which was a Monday if that helps/matters.

I believe the majority of the flights depart between 8PM and 12 AM. That way they land in Oz at 6 or 7AM in the morning depending on where they're going.
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:01 am

Quoting Aussie747 (Reply 37):
Not for QF 107 as QF107 departs at 905am whilst QF25 arrives into LAX at 1045am. The first connecting flight on AA codeshare is QF3103 at 1315 hours

A stopover traveller could use it

Quoting Quig (Reply 41):
Why don't they fly to JFK daily ?

No market for it

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 40):
There was a non-stop SFO-SYD flight in the late 80s, which I was on. They didn't go to LAX directly because LAX was further away by a few miles, out of range for the 743 non-stop.

Hmm, perhaps that is what the 74L was for?
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:04 am

Just for a bit of information, i attended the Qantas strategy day on wednesday night and John Borghetti said that Qantas would return to SanFrancisco from February. If at the last minute they decided not to then they would increase flights to LAX. He also stated that Canada would return in no less than 18 Months as Canada was showing a huge increase in Pax Demand. No ports where mentioned, im asuming Vancouver would be the logical choice. This news is great, i truely hope the decision on Sanfrancisco is a positive one. Im guessing because Air NZ do it and are doing well it pushed the QF decision.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:54 am

Quoting Miami1 (Reply 44):
Just for a bit of information, i attended the Qantas strategy day on wednesday night and John Borghetti said that Qantas would return to SanFrancisco from February. If at the last minute they decided not to then they would increase flights to LAX. He also stated that Canada would return in no less than 18 Months as Canada was showing a huge increase in Pax Demand. No ports where mentioned, im asuming Vancouver would be the logical choice. This news is great, i truely hope the decision on Sanfrancisco is a positive one. Im guessing because Air NZ do it and are doing well it pushed the QF decision.

Well that is fantastic news, I have one question where are they going to get the 744's to operate them. They don't exactly have spare 744's floating around. Just to operate a daily service they need 2 x744's, at a stretch.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:33 am

Well now how do all of you feel who in this thread (and others) have opined that Qantas was so smart in just doing LAX....all that Qantas needed to figure out (and they have) was that no connection through LAX is a good one and Northern California people hate Southern California in general and avoid LAX at all costs.......Opining on the LAX versus SFO is more than just schedules---you must understand the California culture and we San Franciscans would walk to SYD before we would go to LAX...

I stand vindicated.........
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 8:33 am

Thats a very good question. He did talk about a new aircraft order and the contenders but they have not made any decision, maybe they would juggle another route for aircraft, maybe if they decide on the SFO route they would have to reduce a few LAX flights.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:09 am

As the economy and tourism slowly rebounds in the Bay Area, I tend to agree that opportunity exists for QF to return to SFO. SFO still has a large amount of O&D passenger traffic and cargo. Yes the argument can be made that AA's domestic connections to feed QF are better at LAX, but AA still has flights to the major markets from SFO (BOS, JFK, MIA, ORD, DFW, etc.) and AS also has flights to SEA and PDX.

They could start out several times a week nonstop to SYD or even a few weekly flights via PPT. Again just my opinion.
 
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RE: Qantas In LAX....

Sat Jul 02, 2005 9:15 am

Can anyone else confirm that QF is looking to launch SFO with its own metal anytime soon?

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 48):
As the economy and tourism slowly rebounds in the Bay Area, I tend to agree that opportunity exists for QF to return to SFO.

The question is: will QF protect their LAX flights, at the expense of speed and convenience for SFO customers, or will they take the risk that by developing nonstop SYD-SFO service, they can generate more revenue and lift up the performance of both markets.

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 48):
They could start out several times a week nonstop to SYD or even a few weekly flights via PPT. Again just my opinion.

I don't think they will want to route the flights via PPT, as it would dilute yields and be uncompetitive against UA's nonstop service. I think it's safe to assume that if QF launches SFO, they will probably decrease frequency on SYD-LAX. I could see them, as you suggest, perhaps starting by moving four of LAX's frequencies up to SFO, and reducing LAX back down to twice daily. Then, if the SFO market develops enough, they can boost frequency.