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Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:28 am

Lately, I have been looking at airlines.net pictures of special ceremony events, particulary water salute over airplanes ...


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Pretty neat! I have not witnessed actual water cannon salute - I hope one day I will.

My question is what are they for?


  • retiring pilot's last flight
  • aircraft's last revenue flight
  • aircraft's first revenue flight
  • To mark anniversary?


Any more to add to the list? Thanks
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:47 am


  • Inaugural flight
  • Last revenue flight for an airline
  • First revenue flight for an airline
  • Engine fire  wink 


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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:51 am

It's also used for a retiring pilot's last flight. Kind of a nice send-off.

Oops..disregard this post. Didn't read the full post. My bad

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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 7:52 am

Pretty much anything out of the ordinary. First flight into a city, pilot's last flight, first flight for an aircraft, first flight of an airline, last flight on an aircraft, and so on and so forth.

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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:46 am

coz gun salute is risky , is someone points the gun towards the aircraft ...
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:53 am

My question is what are they for?

All 8 photo's tell you why they are receiving the water cannon salute...!!

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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:56 am

I was wondering if there are water salutes in celebration of holidays - 4th of July, Veterans' Day, Labor Day?
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:04 pm

What if there is a crash and the truck is out of water?
 
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:09 pm

Quoting Matt_milligan (Reply 7):
What if there is a crash and the truck is out of water?

There are mucho trucks and mucho water.
They test fire these things fairly often anyway. I cant begin to count the times I've seen them firing at nothing while driving.
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:19 pm

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 1):
Engine fire

lol.... not sure that's really a "salute"...  Smile
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:33 pm

I arranged for a water cannon salute for a retiring captain who was departing YUL on his final flight.

When I contacted the fire brigade to do this, I asked if there was any cost to this. The reply was no...that it gave the guys a chance to play with the equipment.

I was also on an aircraft that received a water cannon salute...that being G-BOAG...the last BA Concorde to depart JFK. It went to, and still rests at BFI.

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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:37 pm

The first B6 flight into PDX got a water salute. I've also seen one for a FedEx MD10 at PDX, don't know what that was for.
 
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:48 pm

Quoting Fumanchewd (Reply 8):
I've seen them firing at nothing while driving.

Those are done during run-ups at the start of each shift. The fire fighters have to take out their trucks to make sure that everything runs well and to fill up on gas and water if necessary, they also all take a quick shot of water to make sure that the systems work.
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:10 pm

In ancient India there was a belief that when you are stepping out to do a major task and if some one passes your way with a bucket or a container of water then it would bring you good luck and you would be successful in doing whatever you have planned.

I do not know, but this may have a distant connection.

Yes there have been times when kings setting out for war did not prepare for war but instead had lot of maids with pitchers full of water on his way to the battlefield.

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 5):
My question is what are they for?

All 8 photo's tell you why they are receiving the water cannon salute...!!


I was just kidding, but I am sure passengers would be afraid if they just saw a fire truck shooting water(forget guns) at them and if they did not know what exactly it is for.
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:25 pm

At some commercial airports, they also sometimes do water cannon salutes for certain military flights. A photo on here references such a salute for an ATA L1011 at DFW -- the author didn't know why but I believe that is the reason.
 
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Mon Jul 04, 2005 4:36 pm

They don't do the water cannon anymore at Delta for retiring pilots (at least not here in SLC but I think it's also true system wide) due to the fact that an aircraft received some slat damage during a salute. Now they just escort the plane from the runway to the gate with several emergency vehicles with lights and sirens.

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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 2:24 am

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 15):
They don't do the water cannon anymore at Delta for retiring pilots (at least not here in SLC but I think it's also true system wide) due to the fact that an aircraft received some slat damage during a salute.

what is slat damage? I am very curious about this.  scratchchin 
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:37 am

I've been lucky enough to be on a few inaugural flights. JFK-BQN, JFK-STI, JFK-SMF, JFK-SJU and BOS-DEN. All with B6. The best we be JFK-SMF b/c many politicans came out including the govenor.

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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:04 am

I believe that SAA's inaugural flight to IAD got a water cannon reception....probably cos it is the best looking 744 ever to land there!
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:15 am

Quoting Wayfarer (Reply 16):
what is slat damage? I am very curious about this

A stray water jet hit the wing and somehow damaged the slats? Sounds like a crappy reason to discontinue a long tradition, if you ask me.
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:29 pm

I think I've heard of the water cannon salute for an aircraft being the first into a new terminal or concourse.

A little off the subject, but I believe that a retiring captain gets to pick who sits in the F/O's seat on his last trip.
 
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:07 pm

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 15):
They don't do the water cannon anymore at Delta for retiring pilots (at least not here in SLC but I think it's also true system wide) due to the fact that an aircraft received some slat damage during a salute.

Maybe ARFF thought the aircraft was on fire. silly 

But, really, unless the nozzle was pointing straight at the slat and pretty close, I don't see how water sprayed in an arc over the wing would damage anything. Unless it was like the PIA salute in the first post where the wings will cut right through the stream of water. But then that can be fixed by having the ARFF trucks farther away or better, angling the nozzles higher up.

Quoting Ckfred (Reply 20):
A little off the subject, but I believe that a retiring captain gets to pick who sits in the F/O's seat on his last trip.

True, provided they are type rated and trained in the type they are flying. It was even on an episode of the WN version of Airline. The retiring pilot had his son, a WN F/O, on the flight. Also, I remember when the #1 pilot on the senority list at HA retired (a DC-9 Captain), his son (also a HA DC-9 Captain) flew in the right seat with him.
 
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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:14 pm

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 9):
Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 1):
Engine fire

lol.... not sure that's really a "salute"...

Well, I suppose that may (under the wrong conditions) qualify as:

1. Pilots' last flight
2. Aircraft's last revenue flight
3. Airline's last revenue flight



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RE: Water Cannon Salute - What For?

Wed Jul 06, 2005 5:24 pm

I was once at MAN and a SIA 747 got the water cannon treatment as it taxied past the fire station.

This was because one of the MAN airport firemen was a passenger. He had retired and was emigrating to Australia. Some of his family were on the car park watching, tissues at the ready. Quite moving it was.
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