Capt.Fantastic
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Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:02 pm

Greetings:

Here is a blast from the past. Pan Am’s flight schedule out of New York JFK in July of 1981. There is some very interesting stuff, e.g., a weekly flight to Monrovia and daily service to Dhahran. I divided flights into international and domestic. I was surprised to see a nonstop to Melbourne FL.

I certainly miss the classic carrier. Enjoy!  Smile


INTERNATIONAL

Buenos Aires
203 747 7

Caracas
217 L1011 X367
217 747 36

Dakar
184 747 47

Dhahran
24 747SP Daily

Frankfurt
72 747 Daily
66 747 Daily

London (LHR)
2 747 Daily
102 L1011 Daily
104 747 Daily

Monrovia
190 747 4

Munich
76 L1011 X237

Paris
114 L1011 Daily

Rio de Janeiro
201 747SP Daily

Rome
110 DC10 Daily

Tokyo
801 747SP Daily
15 747SP 7

DOMESTIC

Detroit
101 747 Daily

Houston
25 727 Daily
73 L1011 Daily

Los Angeles
115 747 Daily

Melbourne, FL
509 727 X7

Miami
403 727 X5
403 L1011 5
249 727 Daily
427 DC10 X4
427 L1011 4

New Orleans
985 727 Daily

Norfolk
535 727 Daily

Orlando
507 DC10 Daily
501 727 Daily

San Francisco
5 747SP Daily

Sarasota
521 727 Daily

Tampa
515 727 Daily
519 727 Daily

Washington DC (DCA)
889 727 Daily
67 727 Daily
111 727 Daily
800 727 Daily

West Palm Beach
839 727 Daily
 
rjpieces
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:09 pm

Thanks for posting that. Always love getting a look at the old timetables....I was surprised though, their international routes seemed rather limited. Are you including continuing flights (For example, their flight to Istanbul stopped in Frankfurt)?
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:10 pm

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Thread starter):
I was surprised to see a nonstop to Melbourne FL.

Why is that? There is presently two nonstops to JFK from MLB and in August there will be three.
MLB of today is 1/10th of what MLB was in the 80's. Presently DL is the only carrier and provides nonstop service to ATL, CVG, IAD, and JFK.
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:12 pm

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 1):
Are you including continuing flights (For example, their flight to Istanbul stopped in Frankfurt)?

Yeah try listing all the stops 184 made after Dakar.
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:12 pm

A 727 to Melbourne! L-1011 to Houston. Those were the days!

 spin 

Ironically, you mention 1981 and Pan Am. My best friend’s father (Pan Am 1947-1981). Some seniority, eh? BTW, he was Dhahran-based for a time.

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Thread starter):
a blast from the past

I love ‘em!
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Capt.Fantastic
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:38 pm

All of the flights I listed were non-stops only. Also in the schedule I noticed allot of cargo flights. For example, cargo (but no pax service ) to BRU, and ORD. I didn't know Pan Am had 747 freighters ... These were designated in the schedule as 747F
 
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:47 pm

If my math is right, 33 flights per day, more or less. The Worldport must have been pretty empty for great stretches during the day....

by the way, my father flew on the Dhahran flight several times. SFO-JFK-DHA in a 747sp, then to Riyadh on Saudia, sometimes an L-1011, other times a 737. He never cared for those trips very much.
 
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:55 pm

Quote:
Yeah try listing all the stops 184 made after Dakar.

Here ya go ... PA 184: Boeing 747 (7/05/81)

New York - Dakar
Dakar - Monrovia
Monrovia - Abidjan
Abidjan - Lagos
Lagos - Nairobi
 
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:56 pm

Yes, Pan Am was popular at JFK - they had so much 747s at JFK at one time -- see photo (1976 photo)


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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:02 pm

Is there still any Pan Am ground equipment left or has it all been replaced over the years?
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Capt.Fantastic
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:04 pm

Check this out: Pan Am Flight 2: (7/05/81) Boeing 747

Round-the-world flight

New York - London
London - Frankfurt
Frankfurt - Delhi
Delhi - Bangkok
Bangkok - Hong Kong
Hong Kong - Tokyo
Tokyo - Los Angeles
 
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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:15 pm

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Thread starter):
Buenos Aires
203 747 7

I flew once back and forth EZE-MIA with Pan Am's 747!  Smile

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RE: Pan Am @ JFK - July, 1981 - Neat!

Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:17 pm

This is a great blast from the past. I graduated high school in 1981. My alarm clock/radio was set to NY's WCBS 880 (All news). Every morning there would be a commercial for Pan Am.

The jingle went, "Pan Am, we fly the world the way the world wants to fly." There was also a Northwest Orient advert that went "We give you half the world, on Northwest Orient (rolling cymbal crash) Airlines."

Ahh...good times, good times.

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