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Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:22 pm

After London Won the bid to host the Olympic Games in 2012, I am guessing there will be a battle between the airlines to becoming the Official Carrier of the games in 2012. Any Suggestions who might it be?

I am guessing these Airlines will out in a bid for it:

Virgin, Emirates, British Airways, Singapore Airlines, Cathay Pacific, Qatar Airways and Etihad.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:24 pm

I think Virgin Atlantic will be the ultimate carrier of the Olympics this time...

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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:27 pm

british airways all the way...they are the only true flag carrier in the uk......sir richard has pimped out the virgin name to all corners of the world and he derserves nothing.......
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:33 pm

I love how EK156 has 3 of 7 choices being from the middle east, but excludes large European and American carriers, which of course include many of the largest airlines in the world.

You have to applaud his regional pride.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:39 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 2):
british airways all the way...they are the only true flag carrier in the uk

that status didnt help Qantas for the Sydney Olympics in 2000. Ansett got it. Just about one year before going out of business. Hmmm, are these onimous signs?
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:47 pm

Does it really matter who is the "official" sponsor? The real question is: which airline will benefit most from the games in London? And the answer here is without a doubt BA, as they are the biggest player in LHR/LGW.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:49 pm

Media-happy Branson would love to be the official carrier, but I imagine must larger BA will get it.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:56 pm

Could we see both BA and VS sharing the title since they are both official sponsors for the bid to begin with? Anyway the point is BA has already wasted no time to capitalise on the London's win.

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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:02 pm

Who ever is prepared to pay the most for it. Bottom line. It's not a honour bestowed- it's a simple cash for marketing priviligies equation.

As qantas found; they hardly needed to pay top dollar for it. BA don't need to either.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:04 pm

DANIALANWAR,
Status didnt help QF in the 2002 olympics????ARE you for real????just because AN got the bid for official carrier means about as much as ual is the official carrier for the taste of chicago....nothing.....all ual did was comp the flights for the chefs and thats it.....QFs reach outta syd was far more than AN could ever realize.......VS outta london is pretty much maxed out as far as seats go and they would be hard pressed to even come close to what BA has as far as seats go.........if i were sir richards private bitch i would exploit the positives that VS has going into LON for all the athletes that are expected....
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:13 pm

For a start, it WILL be a British carrier. Anything else really would be ridiculous, think about it. There's so much national pride surrounding London's successful bid and that can only continue. I really wouldn't be surprised if we see both BA and VS this time, as was for the bidding support. VS may be small but SRB isn't - he's the sort of guy I'd expect to make sure he's at the forefront of all this.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:14 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 9):
VS outta london is pretty much maxed out as far as seats go and they would be hard pressed to even come close to what BA has as far as seats go.........

But they will have a fleet of A380 by 2012.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:18 pm

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 10):
For a start, it WILL be a British carrier.

Why? BA really don't need to pay over the odds for it - i suspect if you asked the general public they would assume BA was anyway (see qantas @ sydney). You might expect EK (or others) will be prepared to stump up the hard cash.

Hard cash is what the olympics, especially hosting them, are about- recouping costs.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:19 pm

Scbriml,
you and i have a better chance of hitting the american powerball/mega millions than VS getting the 380 off 9L at LHR....BY 2014 AT THE EARLIEST....
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:22 pm

I'll be surprised if anyone other than BA becomes the official airline of the Olympics. I think the only one that could stand a chance would be Virgin....but I just don't see it being anyone other than British Airways.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:44 pm

Quoting Zonky (Reply 12):
Why? BA really don't need to pay over the odds for it - i suspect if you asked the general public they would assume BA was anyway (see qantas @ sydney).

Yes, but Ansett was also Australian - you could draw a vague comparison with VS to Ansett as the underdog, so if it's not BA then it'll be VS - they'd JUMP at the chance.

Sure, EK has sponsored events in other cities before, but not the olympics! It's way too big an event, plus come on, they don't have the slots nor would they get them. BA are the only real possibility!
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:46 pm

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 15):
Sure, EK has sponsored events in other cities before, but not the olympics! It's way too big an event, plus come on, they don't have the slots nor would they get them. BA are the only real possibility!

  

It is not a 'privilige' you audtion your suitability for. It's cold hard cash paid for for the marketing benefits of being the 'official' airline. BA really don't need to pay for it. I would imagine most travellers will 'assume' they are anyway if asked.

The 2012 organising team could be clueless and accept a lower offer, but i imagine many local tax payers would be rather annoyed if they did.

[Edited 2005-07-07 10:47:36]
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:50 pm

Zonky, I do see your point, and I may indeed be wrong. I just think that BA would be prepared to pay for it knowing that if they don't VS will push as hard as they can. Also the taxpayers might not be happy about a foreign carrier being the official airline! I know what I'd rather see...

Why not have quite a few carriers from different regions/continents? Sa UA or AA from north america; they already have quite a presence at LHR, with AA and also DL at LGW. SAA I'm sure would love to represent those from Africa, trying even now to market themselves as the airline of Africa. The potential list goes on...
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:52 pm

BD has a better chance of landing the "official"carrier status than VS does....if BA does not the nod...BA all the way....richard is still trying to pry off those "no way aa/ba"stickers....
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:56 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 18):
richard is still trying to pry off those "no way aa/ba"stickers....

That's my point - I actually think Richard will want to make a point of putting up a higher bid than BA if he can. Thus there's much more motivation for VS than BD who have a tendency to stay out of these things and just make the most of being in Star. When did you last see a promotional scheme on their a/c other than Star? Granted they expanding out of LHR longhaul at the moment, but so are VS to a greater extent.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:01 pm

I bet there'll be an Official Airline Alliance of these Olympics, rather than just an airline. If it was just an Official Airline, it would be a British airline, no question. They're not about to pick Emirates.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:05 pm

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 20):
They're not about to pick Emirates.

They bloddy well better pick the highest bidder. I fail to see why we should subsidise BA/VS/BD's promotional ability via london council taxes bills!
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:05 pm

JGPH1A, I agree. Here's a thought - VS and BD have / had some sort of alliance - when I got some miles with VS I was able to spend them on a european BD flight. If that's the case, how feasible would it be to see them put in a joint bid?

By the way, did London win the Olympic bid with "cold hard cash"? There are always other factors, and in this case that includes practical ones.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:06 pm

Quoting Zonky (Reply 21):
They bloddy well better pick the highest bidder. I fail to see why we should subsidise BA/VS/BD's promotional ability via london council taxes bills!

They probably will, but they will probably only solicit bids from British airlines. Easy.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:07 pm

For all we know, EK might not even bid. Why would they after all?
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:08 pm

The official airline will be easyJet or Ryanair.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:10 pm

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 22):
By the way, did London win the Olympic bid with "cold hard cash"?

Cash/favours, obviously. If the IOC voted on the basis of the technical evaluation of the bids, we'd be talking about CDG & AF.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:12 pm

Quoting Zonky (Reply 26):
Cash/favours, obviously

That's pretty cynical. If that's the case then the whole sporting institution is in jeopardy. If the IOC make such a big deal over being fair, the offer would not be made with cash and favours.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:14 pm

The olympics is great. Public built and payed for facilities to enable nike to sell trainers.

Colour me jaded if you like, but it hasn't been a great sporting occasion in decades.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:16 pm

In any case, it seems london has a lot else on its mind this morning rather than just the olympics.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:18 pm

Zonky, to a certain extent you're totally right. OF COURSE any airline bidding to be the official airline of the olympics has a commercial interest. I don't think that's meant to be disguised. All I'm saying is that even though that may be the case, those deciding on which airline(s) to sponsor will, as did the IOC, consider all sides of the arguments put before them, one of which being the need/desire for the airline to be British

[Edited 2005-07-07 11:19:21]
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:33 pm

I don't think VS is big enough to be the official airline. They don't have enough domestic E.U. routes. I think British Airways is gonna get this one...
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 6:37 pm

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 31):
I think British Airways is gonna get this one...

I agree, that's most likely. BA have already put up money for so many projects, particularly in London. Who can forget the London Eye? I've been on it twice - it's so lame how they make it sound like a "flight", with check-in, boarding times and flight duration! Does that mean that officially I bought a BA flight for £8? Big grin
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm

Quoting Uadc8contrail (Reply 9):
Status didnt help QF in the 2002 olympics????ARE you for real????just because AN got the bid for official carrier means about as much as ual is the official carrier for the taste of chicago....nothing.....all ual did was comp the flights for the chefs and thats it.....QFs reach outta syd was far more than AN could ever realize.......VS outta london is pretty much maxed out as far as seats go and they would be hard pressed to even come close to what BA has as far as seats go.........if i were sir richards private bitch i would exploit the positives that VS has going into LON for all the athletes that are expected....

Okay.. a couple of things here. I think you mean the 2000 Olympics. Ansett was not the "official" carrier - they were part of a Star bid which won the Olympic status because the Olympic Family liked the idea of teamwork rather than a solitary airline taking all the glory. Qantas yes had more reach than AN ex SYD, however I don't believe this has anything to do with Ansett being the domestic carrier for the games. And finally - whether you are someone's bitch or not - no one carrier ever has enough seats over the two weeks of the Olympics in/out of the host city, so irrespective of who gets appointed, no one airline will become immediately more successful or profitable than another.

Probably what is of interest is how LHR and LGW will cope with the expected number of arrivals & departures by airlines who hold traffic rights but don't necessarily use them to the full extent. On October 1, 2000, Sydney Airport had a record number of departures that got away due to scenarios like off airport check in and baggage handling. Be interesting to see what the London Group of Airports does.
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:16 pm

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 3):
I love how EK156 has 3 of 7 choices being from the middle east, but excludes large European and American carriers, which of course include many of the largest airlines in the world.

You have to applaud his regional pride.

I hope that was a compliment...lol

Actually I included EK, Etihad and Qatar Airways cause they are pushing to make a mark in the world aviation. Also SQ and CX. I still think Virgin has a better chance over BA.

But EK has an extremely good chance as well!! EK are the official airline of the World Cup 2006 in Germany and they are not even a German Airline. Also they are main sponsors for the new Arsenal Staidum called "Emirates Stadium"

So Why not EK or EY or QR or even SQ or CX!!! All have a very good chance. It all goes back to who has the best bid!!

Quoting ZSOFN (Reply 15):
Sure, EK has sponsored events in other cities before, but not the olympics! It's way too big an event, plus come on, they don't have the slots nor would they get them. BA are the only real possibility!

okay is the World Cup 2006 in Germany not big enough???? Also the last time I check, EK has 8 daily flights to London!! What exactly is the number of slots that an airline should have in order to be recognized as a major airline into London?
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:53 am

Personally, I think you're bloody crazy if you think an airline outside of the UK will become the official airline. It's all about national pride, especially for the hosting country.

Point out an instance in recent history where the official airline wasn't from the host country.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:59 am

I'd be amazed if a non-British airline was designated as the official carrier for London 2012. Whether one likes it or not, the Olympic games are about national pride and patriotism, people in the UK would cause an uproar if a non-UK airline was the official carrier. It's not like the UK doesn't have any major airlines, VS, BA, BD, BY, EZY, BE....
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:06 am

I think a lot of people would like to see British or Virgin get it, and inevitably it will be one of the two. Traditionally, I think BA will and should get it, although Virgin is much more ready to handle the young generation and media hype.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:56 am

Who has not been paying attention then?

BA has been a firm supporter of the Olympic bid since day one.
Some of our aircraft note this externally.
Rod Eddington was involved.
Who has been flying the bid team around?
Whose employees took part in a mass signature effort of support for the bid?

Not for us the sort of support that appears only when the bid is successful, been supportive from day one thanks.

We know a certain bearded one likes to attach himself to other's efforts, but the official airline for 2012?
Nah, too late pal, BA have been one of the main corporate supporters though thick and thin, good times and bad.
Sober but enthusiastic support from the start counts for more than slogans on aircraft disparaging others.

Of course all carriers serving London will benefit, but the official seal of 'Olympic 2012 carrier'?
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:10 am

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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:45 am

I would certainly put my money on BA. Would be nice to see Virgin, they have been quite vocal about their support for the bid. Perhaps it will be "Official Carriers".

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 25):
The official airline will be easyJet or Ryanair.

Perhaps London could be revolutionary and hold a Ryanair-style Olympics. The possibilities are endless. Hold it on a school playing field instead of a stadium. Starting grids are decided on how early an athelete shows up for the event, atheletes must pay for refreshments after competeing.... think we're on to something here?!
 
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:09 am

Quoting Onedude (Reply 33):
I think you mean the 2000 Olympics. Ansett was not the "official" carrier - they were part of a Star bid which won the Olympic status because the Olympic Family liked the idea of teamwork rather than a solitary airline taking all the glory

A big part of Sydney's Olympic bid was that they would fly all the athlete's to Sydney for free. Maybe QF knew it already had the "Australian reputation" and wasn't willing to pump millions of dollars into something that would really do nothing?

Still, I bet Branson and VS will end up winning the "official carrier" status.

Oh, do we have an "official carrier" for Beijing 2008 yet?
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:01 pm

I don't know how much BAs 2012 fare sale from the US will help them. Considering London beat out a US city to get the Olympics, its kind of a rub-in-your-face kinda thign even if it's not intended to be.

That will especially be true from JFK or EWR.

Besides that, the terrorist attacks will probably not bolster London bookings for the next few days.

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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:22 pm

Quoting EK156 (Reply 34):
I hope that was a compliment...lol

it was. regional pride is a good thing.

Quoting EK156 (Reply 34):
okay is the World Cup 2006 in Germany not big enough????

no. it's not the olympics.

Quoting Jfklganyc (Reply 42):
I don't know how much BAs 2012 fare sale from the US will help them. Considering London beat out a US city to get the Olympics, its kind of a rub-in-your-face kinda thign even if it's not intended to be.

Most of america really don't care. we were glad to see London get it. honestly.

Many of the NYC supporters who jumped ship when we couldn't get our stadium in shape thanks to the Cablevision monopoly scam, shifted support to London. It's why Paris may have had an early lead, but ultimately, London won. It might also have had to do with the French no vote on the EU constitution. Many IOC voters are from the EU and are not too happy.

As for the official airline: BA, for no other reason that they span the world and are big in Europe. My bet is BA as an airline, and the alliance would be OneWorld.
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:44 pm

Hmmm,
Sounds like another VS v. BA battle brewing....

Just watch the organizing committee give it to BMI. That would really piss off SRB and for BA, well, its the big goose egg....SPLAT!!!

However, I don't think the organizing committee will be longing to stick it to either VS or BA, so figure it will be whoever is willing to pop open the piggy bank and write the biggest check. One thing for sure: It will be a British airline. No foreign carrier will get the rights to this one. British pride is too big a deal here and folks, they EARNED this one, getting the 2012 Olympics, so they are entitled to it.

The fireworks will be fun to watch, I think....

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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:51 pm

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 44):
Just watch the organizing committee give it to BMI.

Hehe - that should give the BD route people a headache ?

"Do we put the Air Wales ATR on the SYD-SIN-LCY route, or an EMB-145 ?".

"We'll need the A330 to get the Scilly Isles team - will it be back from RUH in time ? WHY didn't we buy more than one ?"
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:54 pm

BA ALL THE WAY

BA fly to every part of the world, and most of europe is covered. VS Only do international flts so people would have to connect to them from different parts of the world.

Why do that when u can get direct flts
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:38 pm

There is an official airline too?  Yeah sure The Olympic Spirit, I see...
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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:26 pm

Quoting HKGKaiTak (Reply 41):
A big part of Sydney's Olympic bid was that they would fly all the athlete's to Sydney for free. Maybe QF knew it already had the "Australian reputation" and wasn't willing to pump millions of dollars into something that would really do nothing?

If the fly athletes for free thing is true, you can bet your arse that the government paid the airlines to fly the athletes.

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RE: Official Airline Of The 2012 Olympic Games?

Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:44 am

Quoting Jfklganyc (Reply 42):
I don't know how much BAs 2012 fare sale from the US will help them. Considering London beat out a US city to get the Olympics, its kind of a rub-in-your-face kinda thign even if it's not intended to be.

I don't think the US nor NYC expected to actually get the Olympics. 1984 was in LA, 1996 was in Atlanta, 2002 was in Salt Lake, I think 2006 is in Vancouver, North America has gotten their share of the Olympics recently.

That and the fact that most people honestly don't care like the ot.her guys said
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