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How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:00 pm

Country prefixes - the situation today:

1) Many different formats exist, e.g. D-ABYY, N169DZ, HP-1525CMP, etc.

2) Country prefixes do not logically represent their countries (EC = Ecuador? - Spain; N=USA=why? TF=Iceland=why? and so on.)

Wouldn't a standardization to ISO country codes, followed by four letters, solve a whole lot of confusion?

For example, a plane that was formerly registered D-ABVA would become DE-ABVA. No big deal.
All US planes would be US-XXXX, where they could do the first two letters according to the airline (US-AAXX for an AA plane), which would give them 676 slots before they need a second one)
Ireland planes would become like IE-ALAX for example. (taking EI-LAX as an example).
UK planes would be like GB-BDXG where it was G-BDXD before.

What do you think about this?

Here's a link to the ISO standardized country codes:
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-serv...2iso-3166-code-lists/list-en1.html
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:09 pm

To be honest I think there is too much standardisation in the world as it is. I like seeing miles / pints etc in England and the US. I was very disappointed to arrive at Karachi's new Jinnah international airport and see the golden arches of MacDonalds as I walked outside.

I have no idea why CS for Portuguese registered a/c
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:25 pm

I think that while it's a nice idea, standardisation should be concentrated on matters of safety rather than cosmetics.

Also for callsigns (in Australia at least) the prefixes for Australian aircraft are omitted in RT, so changing to AU-XYZ would make no difference other than the expense of repainting a few thousand aircraft, and printing a whole lot of new CORs.
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:46 pm

The system is in place. It works. Don't need to fix it. And it would cost a lot of folks a lot of money to do it. Aviation is expensive enough as it is!
 
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:40 am

I don't think it would be that expensive. The new regs could be stickers until the planes are due to be re-painted anyway. The rest is mostly inside the computers.
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:04 am

The country prefixes may not be standardized by ISO, but they are, however, standardized by ITU. See this list.
 
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:20 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Ireland planes would become like IE-ALAX for example. (taking EI-LAX as an example).

You're forgetting that Ireland is actually "Eire", which makes EI perfectly logical.

As for the rest, it would be a lot of bureaucratic effort (your tax money at work) for very little benefit. I'm not saying it's hard to do technically but the political wrangling and the changing of software would take forever.
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Wouldn't a standardization to ISO country codes, followed by four letters, solve a whole lot of confusion?

Sorry but there is no confusion, except perhaps for the lazy, the uninformed, the casual observer...and even if there was it is quite safe to think that the task would be of gigantic proportions.
The registration of the aircraft is no number plate, it is (also) the call sign of the aeronautical (radio) station and as such follows the ITU country coding.
The same applies (in principle) to every single registered wireless transmitter in all services, fixed and mobile terrestrial, maritime and aeronautical; civilm and military.
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RE: How About A Country Prefix Re-assignment

Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:04 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Wouldn't a standardization to ISO country codes, followed by four letters, solve a whole lot of confusion?

I've been thinking much the same thing. The ISO codes are more logically organised than the ITU system and they are much more widely known thanks to e-mail and internet. But I don't see it happening.
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