snehnath
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AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:01 am

Hi,

Read a news report that AC is cancelling their 3x DEL non-stop and replacing it with a 5x service via Zurich from Oct 30th. This will be on a 767.

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:04 am

http://biz.yahoo.com/cnw/050708/e_airca_flightdelhizu.html?.v=1

And this is the report. Sorry..its daily and not 5x.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:11 am

So what are they going to do with the A345s? I had thought the YYZ-DEL would be lucrative for AC, but apparently it's not.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:18 am

It goes to prove that yields are just not that good on the India-North-America routes.
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:30 am

Or that their configuration on the 345 isn't right for the market.

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:32 am

I thought AC used the 343 on the YYZ-DEL route, while the 345 were used on the YYZ-HKG route...
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:01 am

AC is $ 300-500 more than what the competition (KU-AI-LH-AF-EK-GF-SU-OS-AZ) charges to DEL from here and in such a price sensitive market, very few people would want to pay that extra premium.

Infact compared to Kuwait Airways, AC is $ 600 approx more costly from YYZ to DEL!!!

This route via ZRH is an interesting route to say the least for it provides AC with the opporunity to carry 5th freedom traffic on the DEL-ZRH-DEL sector which does not see nonstop flights ever since SWISS suspended DEL few years ago. There are many who will AC in J class from DEL to ZRH and back for example rich India bank account holders in Switzerland  Wink + Businessmen + politicians.

ZRH is also now a STAR ALLIANCE HUB ever since LX was taken over by LH and AC always had a desire to fly to ZRH year round but in the winter + off seasons loads and yields werent good enough to justify a year round flight. With DEL now being routed with a 218 seater B 763ER, it gives AC the opportunity they have been waiting for to fly to ZRH year round and at the same time try and get decent revenues-yield on ZRH-DEL-ZRH route.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:04 am

Does that mean AC will serve ZRH twice daily in the summer?
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:22 am

Quoting DeltaWings (Reply 7):
Does that mean AC will serve ZRH twice daily in the summer?

No it doesnt.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:44 am

Quoting Tribird1011 (Reply 5):
thought AC used the 343 on the YYZ-DEL route, while the 345 were used on the YYZ-HKG route

That was the case, but apparently one odd flight would be operated by a A345.90% of the flights were on the A343.

I feel they should operate the A330 in peak seasons and switch to 767-300 during low seasons
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:14 am

Quoting YUL332LX (Reply 3):
It goes to prove that yields are just not that good on the India-North-America routes.

Or at least on the Delhi-Canada route which never appeared to be anything more than a route catering to Punjabis and Sikhs from the Delhi catchment and Indian-Canadians visiting family in North India.
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:09 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 6):



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 6):
AC is $ 300-500 more than what the competition (KU-AI-LH-AF-EK-GF-SU-OS-AZ) charges to DEL from here and in such a price sensitive market, very few people would want to pay that extra premium.

Infact compared to Kuwait Airways, AC is $ 600 approx more costly from YYZ to DEL!!!

This route via ZRH is an interesting route to say the least for it provides AC with the opporunity to carry 5th freedom traffic on the DEL-ZRH-DEL sector which does not see nonstop flights ever since SWISS suspended DEL few years ago. There are many who will AC in J class from DEL to ZRH and back for example rich India bank account holders in Switzerland rtunity they have been waiting for to fly to ZRH year round and at the same time try and get decent revenues-yield on ZRH-DEL-ZRH route.

I think you are correct, and AC will also codeshare on Swiss' daily YUL-ZRH flight, which should be an attractive choice for the YUL-DEL market. There will be decent connecting times in ZRH in both directions.

Also, from a cargo perspective, AC couldn't get much, if any, freight on the DEL-YYZ nonstop, but will get 12 tonnes on DEL-ZRH-YYZ and can serve two separate markets at that, allowing them to get a richer yield, just as you suggest on the passenger side.

Another part of the story is that the 343 flying time being created here (and with the addition of another 343 to the fleet last week) will go into the Latin America-Asia market via Toronto.

Toronto-Sao Paulo is being upgauged to a 343 for the winter schedule, as is Toronto-Tokyo. The Toronto-Hong Kong nonstop will be daily instead of five flights a week this winter and the new Toronto-Beijing route will operate right through the winter with four frequencies.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:27 am

This change in routing and aircraft is also most likely due to the fact that Air Canada are hurting for aircraft right now for their international routes. By making Delhi a one stop from Zurich, you can add a new route (and most likely a very profitable one) while still serving a high demand but low yield route. The change in aircraft also probably allows AC to deploy the A343 to a more high demand/yield route. This change also allows AC to increase the route frequency to Delhi and probably another route where the A343 will be redeployed. In the future, if the demand and yield is there, Air Canada could always make Delhi a non-stop again once they have new aircraft in the inventory.  goodvibes 

On that note, I really hope that they can solve this nonsense with the pilots and renegotiate their order with Boeing.  pray 

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 2):
So what are they going to do with the A345s? I had thought the YYZ-DEL would be lucrative for AC, but apparently it's not.

AC is using their A345's on the YYZ to HGK route. They won't use them for the YYZ to DEL route.
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:14 am

Interesting move by AC - and the announcement suggests that there will be cooperation between AC and LX once the LH/LX deal is done and LX becomes a Star Alliance member.

AC only has two A345s which were mainly doing the YYZ-HKG nonstop, as pointed out, the DEL flight was mainly operated by the A343 and, on a rather frequent basis, was making a fuel stop in Europe on the westbound journey. I am surprised that AC is going with the 763 on the YYZ-ZRH-DEL route, seems a bit small to me (especially when considering that two distinct destinations are being served with a 200 pax aircraft).....but the daily service will be appreciated by business and premium pax. I guess that AC has no other aircraft type to assign to the route, with the A333/343 fleet flight longer haul and higher demand routes. If I remember correctly, AC is even using a 763 on the YYZ-NRT route at the present time.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:16 am

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 10):
Or at least on the Delhi-Canada route which never appeared to be anything more than a route catering to Punjabis and Sikhs from the Delhi catchment and Indian-Canadians visiting family in North India.

And now with the AI rustbuckets serving this market directly via BHX there was lesser demand for the Sardarjis to fly on Air Canada.
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:15 am

Two replies to notes posted above:

Yes, AC will serve Zurich twice daily. Once daily from Toronto and once daily on the return from Delhi. Both flights will be on the ground at the same time in Zurich.

YYZ - NRT is served by a 343.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:08 am

Quoting Snehnath (Reply 1):
It goes to prove that yields are just not that good on the India-North-America routes.

Not really. It does show that yields from Canada to Dilly are crap. And that it's a market better suited to the Air India types (put bums in seats, screw the yields) or the BAs and AFs of the world, who have a hub mid-way.


Don't AC have Canada-LHR-India permissions? That could be a more than decent performer, with connection possibilities from across Canada on AC aircraft. Kind of how DL route all India traffic through Paris, except AC connect more LHR to more cities (Toronto, Montréal, Halifax, Ottawa, Vancouver, St Johns, Calgary) than DL do CDG (ATL, JFK, CVG).
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:08 am

Quoting DeltaWings (Reply 7):
Infact compared to Kuwait Airways, AC is $ 600 approx more costly from YYZ to DEL!!!

I agree, I have a lot of friends from YYZ, from what I hear a lot of YYZ-DEL offerings and carriers such as Aeroflot and the aforementioned Kuwait Airways are the cheapest from YYZ to DEL (not non-stop ofcourse)
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:10 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 18):
Quoting Jaysit (Reply 10):
Or at least on the Delhi-Canada route which never appeared to be anything more than a route catering to Punjabis and Sikhs from the Delhi catchment and Indian-Canadians visiting family in North India.

And now with the AI rustbuckets serving this market directly via BHX there was lesser demand for the Sardarjis to fly on Air Canada.

As much as I hated the IAD-YYZ-DEL-YYZ-IAD flight I took last year, it was surprisingly full. There was not even one vacant seat on the aircraft either way. I think AC is making a BIG mistake by changing this route. I bit...ched enough about their bad customer service..maybe that has made a difference Smile

By the way, stop talking about Sardarjis, I am one and am damn proud of it too Smile

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:06 am

Quoting Ourboeing (Reply 22):
As much as I hated the IAD-YYZ-DEL-YYZ-IAD flight I took last year, it was surprisingly full. There was not even one vacant seat on the aircraft either way. I think AC is making a BIG mistake by changing this route. I bit...ched enough about their bad customer service..maybe that has made a difference Smile

By the way, stop talking about Sardarjis, I am one and am damn proud of it too Smile

Prahji!! fully agree with you. I too took that flight and it was full, its different though that it was christmas season.
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:13 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 17):
the DEL flight was mainly operated by the A343 and, on a rather frequent basis, was making a fuel stop in Europe on the westbound journey.

You data is a little old. Those fuel stops were necessary due to a dispute with the Russian gov't about overflight rights. It was solved in late 2003/early 2004. The YYZ-DEL and DEL-YYZ have flight been operating as non-stops, albeit with load restrictions at certain times of the year.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:30 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 17):
DEL flight was mainly operated by the A343 and, on a rather frequent basis, was making a fuel stop in Europe

Usually making fuel stops in Stockholm.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 9:35 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 17):
DEL flight was mainly operated by the A343 and, on a rather frequent basis, was making a fuel stop in Europe on the westbound journey

Usually the fuel stop is made in Stockholm.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:16 am

Who know's what AC will do with the A343 that was operating YYZ to DEL?
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:27 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 6):
carry 5th freedom traffic on the DEL-ZRH-DEL sector which does not see nonstop flights ever since SWISS suspended DEL few years ago. There are many who will AC in J class from DEL to ZRH and back for example rich India bank account holders in Switzerland   + Businessmen + politicians.

...and it seems that indians love Switzerland for vacation and honeymoons. I have noticed that many dream sequences in Bollywood movies happen in the Switzerland... have you notice that?!  Smile there is some drama happening somewhere in Mumbay, and then, voila!!!.. they start singing and dancing in the open green fields of switzerland with the snowcaped mountains as a backdrop.. and then, they are magically transported back to India (on AC 763 this time)..pretty funny!  Smile
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:00 pm

Is the new Canada-India bilateral in effect? If it is there may me a second 763 flight to India in the works. A stop with fifth freedom rights in ARN or OSL would be attrative to AC as they offer shorter journey times than a stop at LHR. I think a stop in MAN might work as all India-UK flights seam to be to BHX or LHR. (Please correct me if I am wrong.)
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:41 pm

Does this info perhaps signal that AC might also be moving away from there hopes of opening a YYZ-Bombay nonstop in favor of a one stop? If Dehli wasnt able to work non stop how much hope does Bombay have? I have to say I'm kind of sad to see this route being turned into a one stop. News from AC hasnt been the best lately hopefully that will change soon.

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:01 pm

Quoting Ourboeing (Reply 22):
By the way, stop talking about Sardarjis, I am one and am damn proud of it too

 Wink and I am Panju Hindu: So I should count at least 1/2 Sadhar Big grin
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:38 pm

Quoting AC787 (Reply 30):
Does this info perhaps signal that AC might also be moving away from there hopes of opening a YYZ-Bombay nonstop in favor of a one stop? If Dehli wasnt able to work non stop how much hope does Bombay have?

Totally different routes. YYZ-DEL is mostly low yield family traffic. YYZ-BOM would have more higher yielding business traffic. After NYC, YYZ with 350,000 Indians, has the second largest Indian pop in north american (sf would be next with 230,000). I actually don't think the DEL route did that bad, i htink the change is more to do with AC things than anything else.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 8:22 pm

As has been mentioned previously in this thread, I think the change has to do with AC making committments for their A343s on other routes. A difference between last winter and this coming winter is that AC will be using the A343 on the YYZ-GRU route. In addition, I assume that the A343 will continue to be used on the YYZ-PEK route, which didn't exist last year. Also, as I have read either in this forum or on flyertalk.com, YVR-SYD which usually is served by an A343 from Nov-Mar, will remain a 763.

Here is a summary of my understanding of the A343/A345 routes. Please correct errors and omissions:

Summer 2005

YVR - HKG (daily)
YVR - NRT (daily)
YVR - ICN (daily) (part of summer)

YYZ - PEK (4x weekly)
YYZ - ICN (3x weekly)
YYZ - NRT (daily)
YYZ - DEL (3x weekly)
YYZ - HKG (daily?) (A345)

In Winter 2005/2006, if previous year's practices are continued, the YVR-NRT and YVR-ICN routes revert back to 763. A343 will be added to YYZ-GRU and removed from YYZ-DEL. Does anyone know if YYZ-ICN will continue during the winter?
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:01 pm

Good News for CO they will offer 1 stop in Oct YYZ-EWR-DEL
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:38 pm

you mean to say that I am one of those lucky guys who flew A345 DEL-YYZ over the North Pole.
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RE: AC Canceling DEL Non-stop

Sat Jul 09, 2005 11:42 pm

Hurray! Welcome back to Zurich, Air Canada. We have been missing the AC service from Zurich to Toronto in winter and I am happy to see the Maple Leaf back all year offering an additional destination out of Zurich that has been dropped by LX some time ago. Bienvenue, Air Canada!
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:19 am

Congatulations to the photographers in ZRH.
We in Stockholm would have loved to see AC on their way to and from DEL.
Their A340-300Xs made some fuelstops in Stockholm last year.
http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...=Air%20Canada&countrysearch=Sweden

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:39 am

Is there any chance of AC using ZRH to serve other routes in India or the middle east or is this just a one time thing? What does everyone think?
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 2:04 am

Quoting AC787 (Reply 39):
Is there any chance of AC using ZRH to serve other routes in India or the middle east or is this just a one time thing? What does everyone think?

Its a one time thing. If they do go to middle east like dubai (which would be great) I think they would stop at London or something like that.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:30 am

Quoting Mrniji (Reply 31):
and I am Panju Hindu: So I should count at least 1/2 Sadhar

Dont forget me too and i am more than 1/2 sardar.

Quoting AC787 (Reply 39):
Is there any chance of AC using ZRH to serve other routes in India or the middle east or is this just a one time thing? What does everyone think?

I too feel its a one time thing, they could do something similar to AI and operate YVR--LHR--ATQ.---Easily enough demand for a 4x weekly B767/A330.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 4:39 am

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 41):
i am more than 1/2 sardar

Karan!! could you please explain what is more than half, and less than full Sardar? If you'd have said you're just a Sardar, it'd have been enough!!! Big grin
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:19 am

Quoting COSPN (Reply 35):
Good News for CO they will offer 1 stop in Oct YYZ-EWR-DEL

It's marketed as a one-stop flight, but there will be an aircraft change in EWR.
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:55 am

Quoting JCS17 (Reply 43):
Quoting COSPN (Reply 35):Good News for CO they will offer 1 stop in Oct YYZ-EWR-DEL
It's marketed as a one-stop flight, but there will be an aircraft change in EWR.

I thought CO82 was scheduled IAH-EWR-DEL?

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:00 pm

Quoting Aseem (Reply 42):
Karan!! could you please explain what is more than half, and less than full Sardar? If you'd have said you're just a Sardar, it'd have been enough!!!
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Those who have met me know why i said that

Quoting Diesel33 (Reply 44):
thought CO82 was scheduled IAH-EWR-DEL?

Since CO will require atleast 2 aircrafts for the route which routes would stop getting the 777 sevices anymore???
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Sun Jul 10, 2005 5:54 pm

Quoting COSPN (Reply 35):
Good News for CO they will offer 1 stop in Oct YYZ-EWR-DEL



Quoting JCS17 (Reply 43):
It's marketed as a one-stop flight, but there will be an aircraft change in EWR.

It's good for CO because they'll be competitive in the number of stops en-route, but it requires going through US customs, which is a big hassle that works against them from YYZ when it could be avoided via BHX or ZRH.

Quoting Swisswings (Reply 37):
I am happy to see the Maple Leaf back all year offering an additional destination out of Zurich that has been dropped by LX some time ago

It is great to see AC back at Zurich from YYZ. Would the route not have been dropped by SR though? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't seem to recall ZRH-YYZ in the LX era.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Tue Jul 12, 2005 12:57 am

here is the news article which more of less confirms it. This report also makes the same mistake of ref the current schedule as thrice weekly, or has it changed?
Ottawa Business Journal
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Tue Jul 12, 2005 1:16 am

It was confirmed in the press release that AC put out, which was given in Reply #1 on a biz.yahoo link:

http://micro.newswire.ca/release.cgi...ey=1307089985&view=13213-0&Start=0

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:43 am

Quoting CXYYZ (Reply 42):
It is great to see AC back at Zurich from YYZ. Would the route not have been dropped by SR though? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't seem to recall ZRH-YYZ in the LX era.

CXYYZ - I was in fact referring to the ZRH-DEL route, not to the ZRH-YYZ one. LX never served YYZ while SR did for some years before focusing on YUL and code-sharing with AC on the YYZ-ZRH route.
 
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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:51 am

Quoting Behramjee (Reply 8):


Quoting DeltaWings:
Does that mean AC will serve ZRH twice daily in the summer?

No it doesnt.

Well, as I understand it, we will have two daily AC B763 at ZRH. The one coming from Toronto, which continues to DEL and the one coming from DEL, which then continues to Toronto. So, technically, AC will serve ZRH twice daily.  Wink

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RE: AC Cancelling DEL Non-stop

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:53 am

I think these are the first results of Swiss being soon a member of Star Alliance. As I read today, Swiss and Air Canada will codeshare on all flights. I think this is a good arrangement: AC daily Toronto-Zurich-Delhi, Swiss daily Montreal-Zurich, Zurich-Mumbai. It will be possible to change in Zurich from one flight to the other in each direction. Example: you are on AC from YYZ and change in ZRH to the LX flight to BOM or you are on LX from YUL and change in ZRH to the AC flight to DEL (or other combinations). I checked the LX timetable and the AC flights: all four flights (YUL and YYZ-ZRH and ZRH-BOM and DEL and vice versa) are at about the same time in Zurich, you can really change to each other  Smile . It was also mentioned (Tagesanzeiger, Zurich newspaper, printed edition) that AC and LX are considering to codeshare on several LX European flights. The newspaper called it: "AC makes Zurich to a minihub".

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