BigGSFO
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CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:42 am

CO will start LGA-AUA non-stop service on 12/10

http://biz.yahoo.com/bizj/050712/1132098.html?.v=1

Question: what limitations are there LGA to international destinations? I know there are flights to Canada and the Bahamas (and now Aruba), but are there customs at LGA or do passengers pre-clear at origin?
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:46 am

Quoting BigGSFO (Thread starter):
Question: what limitations are there LGA to international destinations? I know there are flights to Canada and the Bahamas (and now Aruba), but are there customs at LGA or do passengers pre-clear at origin?

LGA can have non-stops to destinations that pre-clear. LGA's international destinations - Aruba, Bermuda, Nassau, Freeport, Ottawa, Montreal, and Toronto - all pre-clear.

[Edited 2005-07-12 18:46:55]
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:48 am

On a related note Cancun is allegedly looking at preclearance.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:49 am

Also note that the flight operates on a Saturday when the perimeter rule is not in effect at LGA.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:54 am

Will this be CO's only non hub flight using mainline?

[Edited 2005-07-12 18:57:19]
 
BigGSFO
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:54 am

Thanks Dutchjet for the explanation.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 1:58 am

I see US already has Sat service from AUA to LGA. I wonder how their loads are. How long has that US flight been in operation?

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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:03 am

I think CO may rethink the need for this what with the JB announcment today.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:04 am

I see US already has Sat service from AUA to LGA. I wonder how their loads are. How long has that US flight been in operation?

US is doing very well on LGA-AUA and has upgraded the flight from an A319 to an A320. The LGA-AUA flight began June 12, 2004.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:08 am

Quoting Padcrasher (Reply 4):
Will this be CO's only non hub flight using mainline?

Outside of Continental Micronesia and PTY-UIO, yes.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:24 am

You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:28 am

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 10):
You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu

Duh! Thanks. I didn't include GRU-GIG since no local traffic rights, but SEA-ANC and LAX-HNL totally escaped me. Funny, too, because, historically, those two routes have been operated by all five of the major airlines, IIRC. Although NW, DL, and AA are no longer on SEA-ANC.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 2:29 am

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 10):
You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu

Good catch, but CO cannot carry local traffic between GRU and GIG.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:38 am

Will they shuttle the a/c in from Newark? It would be really neat if they sold EWR-LGA tickets, an exodus of spotters would take advantage and CO could make a bit of CA$H
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:47 am

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 13):
Will they shuttle the a/c in from Newark?

Nope. It will probably be an aircraft that came in the night before from IAH or CLE.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:48 am

More than likely this 73G will originate from IAH or turn from AUA from EWR or IAH.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:50 am

Quoting COfaninBOS (Reply 10):
You missed a few...

Sao Paulo- Rio
Seattle- Anchorage
Los Angeles- Honolulu

Non-tag flights anyhow...

Interesting decision on LGA-AUA. Must be very high yielding, or else the Aruba tourism bureau has helped juice the market for CO with some marketing guarantees. That's a possibility.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:51 am

Quoting UN_B732 (Reply 13):
Will they shuttle the a/c in from Newark?

That's a remote possibility, but CO currenly flies 737s to LGA from both IAH and CLE. I don't know how loads are on the Sunday morning flights from LGA to IAH/CLE, but with some creative aircraft scheduling I'm sure they can do this without having to shuttle an aircraft from Newark.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 6:15 am

And we (KLM) are going to represent the flight in AUA as we do with DL/Song and the other CO flights.

US have very good loads on the AUA flights and are satisfied. This did com as a surprise as we thought we would see an increase in the EWR-AUA and/or IAH-AUA service, but they came with LGA. I mean from EWR we get anything from a 737-700, 737-800, 757-200, 757-300, 767-200 and 767-300 depending on the season.

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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:41 pm

Rumor has it that Saturday CLE-AUA service may start next winter.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:49 pm

Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people...
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:01 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people

Yep!...deal with it.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:06 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people...

Ah, but we wish. I've heard the AUA rumor off and on for a while as well. But as I said, some of us in CLE do have the common sense to realize that CO will always play third fiddle to New York and Houston.  Smile
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:44 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 22):
Ah, but we wish. I've heard the AUA rumor off and on for a while as well. But as I said, some of us in CLE do have the common sense to realize that CO will always play third fiddle to New York and Houston.

Being in CLE I have to agree and I think as much as I would like to see AUA from CLE as scheduled air, I only see it being offered as a charter flight with either Apple Vacations or Funjet Vacations seasonally.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:25 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 20):
Rumor has it that CLE-everywhere flights will start soon, according to CLE people...

In fact! The CO website is loaded with ACTUAL continuous expansion routes from EWK and IAH so I wish the "rumors" about CLE would end. Another fact is that on those rare occassions that something new actually begins in CLE, it often ends.

And I' a metro Clevelander.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:34 am

Quoting Joeman (Reply 24):



Quoting Joeman (Reply 24):
In fact! The CO website is loaded with ACTUAL continuous expansion routes from EWK and IAH so I wish the "rumors" about CLE would end. Another fact is that on those rare occassions that something new actually begins in CLE, it often ends.

What is EWK?..if your talking about Newark its EWR.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:39 am

CO has had LGA on their international route map for quite some time now! It's great to see this service! I live on Long Island and EWR is a little far but CO is usually worth it!
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:14 am

My bet is the LGA-AUA flight is presold at some profitable level to a travel agency; and CAL is throwing the rest of the seats on the market for whatever additional revenue they can get.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:36 am

Quoting CLE757 (Reply 25):
What is EWK?..if your talking about Newark its EWR.

I HAVE been calling what is obviously Newark EWK, thanks for pointing that out.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:04 am

Quoting Joeman (Reply 24):
In fact! The CO website is loaded with ACTUAL continuous expansion routes from EWK and IAH so I wish the "rumors" about CLE would end. Another fact is that on those rare occassions that something new actually begins in CLE, it often ends.

I don't mean to be down on CO, the EWR and IAH superhubs, or CLE. However, as Falcon84 has pointed out, CLE is ranked third in priority.

And a distant third at that.

Good luck for CO and this latest EWR-AUA route. I'm going to check the CO website now for any late breaking press releases concerning new route announcements from EWR and IAH that may have been listed today.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:38 am

Its intersting this flight will only be on a saterday service but I guess if they keep EWR-AUA and IAH-AUA, The Saturday flight from LaGuardia to Aruba will depart at 7:50 a.m., arriving in Aruba at 1:20 p.m. The return flight will depart Aruba on Saturdays at 2:30 p.m., arriving at LaGuardia at 6:15 p.m. Continental will utilize a Boeing 737-700 aircraft with seating for 12 in first class and 112 in coach for the flight. Im really excited to see the caribian expansion in December, Continental will begin nonstop service to two new Caribbean destinations in the Netherlands Antilles: Bonaire (from Houston) and Curacao (from New York/Newark), Continental's 19th and 20th Caribbean destinations, respectively.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:35 am

Quoting Joeman (Reply 29):
Quoting Joeman (Reply 24):
In fact! The CO website is loaded with ACTUAL continuous expansion routes from EWK and IAH so I wish the "rumors" about CLE would end. Another fact is that on those rare occassions that something new actually begins in CLE, it often ends.

I don't mean to be down on CO, the EWR and IAH superhubs, or CLE. However, as Falcon84 has pointed out, CLE is ranked third in priority.

And a distant third at that.

Good luck for CO and this latest EWR-AUA route.

I'm going to check the CO website now for any late breaking press releases concerning new route announcements from EWR and IAH that may have been listed today.

OOPS! I guess you had to check out the Department of Transportation rather than the CO website thus far and dated today rather than yesterday when I wrote the above piece to discover an application for new Houston-Punta Cana service projected to begin December 16, 2005
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:41 am

I can assure you that the AUA government has put money behind this service. Probably a revenue guarantee deal that provides CO with cash if the flights flies at a loss.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:56 am

Quoting Squirrel83 (Reply 30):
Its intersting this flight will only be on a saterday service but

It can't operate anything more. Aruba is beyond the LGA perimeter. With the exception of flights to Denver, beyond perimter flights can only operate on Saturdays.
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:05 am

Is HNL-NGO still operational? If so this would be their longest non-hub flight.
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Fri Jul 15, 2005 1:18 am

yes thanks CO 904/905 767-400
 
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RE: CO LGA-AUA

Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:17 am

Quoting Whiskeyhotel (Reply 34):
Is HNL-NGO still operational? If so this would be their longest non-hub flight.

Yes it is so yes that would be their longest non-hub flight.
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