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NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:48 pm

Northwest will launch Flint-Las Vegas service on 20 August 2005. It will be seasonal through 29 October 2005. I won't even bother posting the schedule, I'll just post airTran's schedule:

FL 776 LAS 0800-1450 FNT xTuWe
FL 771 FNT 1530-16353 LAS xTuWe

Now, replace those flight numbers with "NW 1927/1928" and you have Northwest's schedule on the service. The same exact schedule as airTran.

[Edited 2005-07-13 15:54:49]
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 10:53 pm

Well at least you can say that they are predictable. Kind of reminds me of what they did to F9 with their MSP-LAX service. NW and FL are slugging it out at IND as well.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:17 pm

What equipment is NW using on the flights?
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:22 pm

It's called competition... we have that here in the US. And they're using 319s.


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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:25 pm

"It's called competition... we have that here in the US. And they're using 319s"

I agree it's competition, but running the flights at the exact same time when NW wasn't already on the route is more than competition. They are sending a message.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:29 pm

Watching NW do stuff is great, if only i had some popcorn.

I wonder how their loads will be, along with airtrans.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:39 pm

Skyteam has it loaded:

Daily except Tuesdays:

Flight Northwest Airlines 1927
Depart Flint Bishop MI US (FNT) Terminal
Departure Time 3:30 PM
Arrive Las Vegas NV US (LAS) Terminal 1
Arrival Time 4:40 PM
Duration 4 hours, 10 minutes
Meal
Aircraft Type 319
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Flight Northwest Airlines 1928
Depart Las Vegas NV US (LAS) Terminal 1
Departure Time 8:00 AM
Arrive Flint Bishop MI US (FNT) Terminal
Arrival Time 2:50 PM
Duration 3 hours, 50 minutes
Meal
Aircraft Type 319
Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:52 pm

Interesting......

r/t, depart Aug 20 - return Aug 27:

NWA.com $267.41
AirTran.com $218.40
Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:42 am

Tjwgrr...

If you're booking that I'd wait a week or two longer. As the battle continues those fares might get shockingly low.


Would a CRJ or an Avro have had the legs to make that run?? Or even a DC9, I doubt it, but just wondering really? A319 seems like alot of plane for a run that probably won't be very full because of the high capacity that'll be offered with 2 competing flights running wing-tip to wing-tip basically. Or is the A-319 because of flights that will be running in from MSP/DTW, etc. already?

Interesting that FL thinks they can beat NW by 5 minutes on the way out there, but NW and them run neck and neck for the trip back. I guess it'll all depend on who can load/push back first though.

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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:45 am

You would think that the FNT flight might cannabalize a few passengers that might have made the drive to DTW and depart from there.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:50 am

Quoting Quickmover (Reply 9):
You would think that the FNT flight might cannabalize a few passengers that might have made the drive to DTW and depart from there.

Yes totally.

Also keep in mind the one who will be affected as well is Alligent out of LAN, these are much better flight times and also FF flyer programs are a draw. Both carriers should do fine. Remember at one time two different tour operators ran charters to LAS from DTW using L1011's 4 days a week, 2 flights a day and filled the planes with no problem.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:51 am

People from the northern suburbs drive to FNT and avoid metro. Why drive from to DTW when you can fly sometimes cheaper from FNT and avoid the hassles of the larger metro?

This won't canabalize traffic from DTW. Priced right and timed right, this flight can be successful just as the Florida routes NWA runs from FNT. Just like IND and MKE aren't canabalizing DTW, MSP and MEM.


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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:46 am

This should be interestng to see how NW makes out. Both will probably do alright on the route. FL has a loyal base in these markets as does NW. I can't see too many FF's jumping ship just to fly on the other guy. (probably just stated the obvious.)

What is sort of more interesting here; I don't believe FL is out to "attack" NW so much as they are seeing markets that can sustain direct service, i.e. FNT-MCO, CAK-BOS, etc. I think NW sees merit in this type of business model and is trying to make use of spare metal to make a few extra bucks and if the route can sustain itself then they will keep it.

In a nutshell I think you will see a trend across the industry of airlines starting to serve more direct routes and reduce the hub and spoke system. May be as much as 60% hub traffic and 40% direct service. If a route can sustain itself, why not?

Just as a side note, Joe Leonard once was a Exec at NW along with a couple of other FL Execs. Hmmmm!

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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:47 am

Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 11):

This won't canabalize traffic from DTW. Priced right and timed right, this flight can be successful just as the Florida routes NWA runs from FNT. Just like IND and MKE aren't canabalizing DTW, MSP and MEM.

The great part, from a MKE-based traveller, is that you almost ALWAYS get EUA'd in the standard window, so upgrades are great. With such proximity to DTW, I could see some golds driving to FNT to score an upgrade  Smile
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 1:49 am

My only suggestion to NW (like I have any input) is to start looking at other city pairs rather then following FL around. Hint GRR-LAS, FNT-LGA, FNT-EWR, etc.

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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:00 am

Quoting GRRTVC (Reply 12):
Just as a side note, Joe Leonard once was a Exec at NW

And Eastern too...when he had security guards surrounding his house, and Frank Borman wore a bulletproof vest  Smile
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:31 am

i have to ask.... Who here thinks NW would even research this route if AirTran never announced it?
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:42 am

it was decided long ago about fnt-las as well as grr-las which is also coming soon...i posted that info last year...
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:47 am

Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 11):
This won't canabalize traffic from DTW. Priced right and timed right, this flight can be successful just as the Florida routes NWA runs from FNT. Just like IND and MKE aren't canabalizing DTW, MSP and MEM.


AZJ

They most certainly will draw from the DTW market, especially the price sensative travelers and areas close to FNT that would have driven to DTW to snag a nonstop.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:48 am

I remember when Favre posted this last year, and I doubted - I'm a Believer now.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:54 am

Also up until recently all of these markets, DTW, FNT, GRR and LAN all ust to support dedicated charter flights to LAS! Now except for DTW and LAN they are all gone from the market.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:57 am

Quoting Favre (Reply 17):
it was decided long ago about fnt-las as well as grr-las which is also coming soon...i posted that info last year...

I'll second that. You said it was coming last year, but it was put on the back burner for the time being.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 8):
Would a CRJ or an Avro have had the legs to make that run?? Or even a DC9, I doubt it, but just wondering really? A319 seems like alot of plane for a run that probably won't be very full because of the high capacity that'll be offered with 2 competing flights running wing-tip to wing-tip basically. Or is the A-319 because of flights that will be running in from MSP/DTW, etc. already?

No, the CRJ, Avro, & DC-9 would never be able to make it anywhere close to LAS. They can't even really make DEN from DTW/FNT (although dopy United did have a CR7 on DTW-DEN during last ski season). The A319, isn't that big, its 125 seats, almost the same as the DC-9-50 which seats 124.

Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 11):
People from the northern suburbs drive to FNT and avoid metro. Why drive from to DTW when you can fly sometimes cheaper from FNT and avoid the hassles of the larger metro?

This won't canabalize traffic from DTW. Priced right and timed right, this flight can be successful just as the Florida routes NWA runs from FNT. Just like IND and MKE aren't canabalizing DTW, MSP and MEM.

NW should have no problem with these flights and it will not significantly canabalize DTW. FNT has been rapidly expansion since its positioned closer to the rapdly growing area of North Oakland County and the US-23 corridor. Plus, this flight will pull in from other areas of Mid-Michigan including Lansing, Midland/Saginaw/Bay City, etc. Its LAS!!!! Seriously, you can fill an aircraft from most medium/large sized cities.

NW is getting a little tired of Air Tran being the cat's meow in Flint. Hence why the Florida flights last year. Its likely there will be CRJ service to LGA & DCA before too long from FNT.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:30 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 20):
Also up until recently all of these markets, DTW, FNT, GRR and LAN all ust to support dedicated charter flights to LAS! Now except for DTW and LAN they are all gone from the market.

I believe a large part of the reason those are vacant is Funjet's inability to find a suitable charter carrier. When ATA stopped doing charters, Funjet, with a large charter presence in MKE went to YX. You can even book YX flights at funjet.com for a discount.

TransMeridian and Allegiant are selective about their markets, so I don't think it has to do with the lack of traffic from the two cities.

Quoting DTW.SCE" class=quote target=_blank>PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 21):
Plus, this flight will pull in from other areas of Mid-Michigan including Lansing, Midland/Saginaw/Bay City, etc. Its LAS!!!! Seriously, you can fill an aircraft from most medium/large sized cities.

This is so true. Look at RFD. TransMeridian and Hooters both have n/s flights to LAS from there. Allegiant has fared well in MSN. Couple NW's flight with some nwaworldvacation.com promos, and you could sell that flight out year-round.

Not to mention, it would open up award availability connecting through DTW to FNT  Smile
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:45 am

Quoting DTW.SCE" class=quote target=_blank>PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 21):
No, the CRJ, Avro, & DC-9 would never be able to make it anywhere close to LAS. They can't even really make DEN from DTW/FNT

I recall flying on a Republic DC9 on the DTW-LAS-DTW route in the mid-1980's. Are you sure that the 9 would not have the legs to run FNT-LAS or GRR-LAS.

Also Allegiant uses the Mad Dogs on the LAS-LAN runs, granted it is a MD-80 not a DC9.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:50 am

If AirTran drops the flight, I wonder how long before NW does as well.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:52 am

Didn't Ozark fly dc9s STL-SAN?
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:08 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 24):
If AirTran drops the flight, I wonder how long before NW does as well.

I honestly don't think that would happen. As stated above, FNT - LAS is a very good market and will be able to support itself even if FL drops the flight. I don't think that FL will drop it, I also think there is enough room for both in this market and I think FL needs to really compete here.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:10 am

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 26):

I honestly don't think that would happen. As stated above, FNT - LAS is a very good market and will be able to support itself even if FL drops the flight. I don't think that FL will drop it, I also think there is enough room for both in this market and I think FL needs to really compete here.

If airTran drops the flight, Northwest will too, make no mistake about it. Happened with FLL-FNT, will happen with LAS-FNT if FL decides to drop it (I don't think they will). Northwest is starting this flight to protect marketshare. If airTran drops LAS-FNT, they don't need to protect marketshare against FL anymore, and can just send them through DFW or MSP again.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:14 am

LAS seems to be developing into a good market for FL as well as FNT.
ATL-LAS 3X
DFW-LAS 3X
CAK-LAS 1X
FNT-LAS 1X

I would bet more LAS flights are on the horizon.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:26 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 27):
If airTran drops the flight, Northwest will too, make no mistake about it. Happened with FLL-FNT, will happen with LAS-FNT if FL decides to drop it (I don't think they will). Northwest is starting this flight to protect marketshare. If airTran drops LAS-FNT, they don't need to protect marketshare against FL anymore, and can just send them through DFW or MSP again.

Gosh...getting out of the airlines has hurt my knowledge....I didn't know that both had dropped FLL...Yikes! I didn't know NW flew FNT - DFW  Wink Were both flights they flew to FLL Saturday only or daily? Man I need to sharpen up on my skills...  Smile

Wish they would do something in TOL.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:33 am

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 29):
Wish they would do something in TOL.

Airtran tried TOL twice and no luck.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:44 am

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 30):
Airtran tried TOL twice and no luck.

Northwest silly! AirTran wouldn't touch TOL again, no reason to, bigger fish to fry. It would be nice to see NW regain the share they used to have here or add another destination or two out of here since all airlines except CO have done that.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:48 am

Quoting Flyinryan99 (Reply 29):
Were both flights they flew to FLL Saturday only or daily? Man I need to sharpen up on my skills... Smile

Both were Saturday only on nearly the same exact schedule. However, because of strong bookings, the FLL-FNT flight operated daily between January and April. The flight actually did better for Northwest than airTran, but when FL dropped it, so did NW.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:52 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 27):
If airTran drops the flight, Northwest will too, make no mistake about it. Happened with FLL-FNT, will happen with LAS-FNT if FL decides to drop it (I don't think they will).

I totally agree with you MAH, that NW would drop the flight like a hot potato if FL dropped it. It happened with LAX-DEN, in addition to the examples you mentioned.

I think, however, that there is a greater possibility of FL dropping the flight than you seem to think. FL has dropped flights before when faced with strong LCC competitive responses (see PIT-PHL). If NW is able to take just enough market share away from FL to make it unprofitable for them, FL will drop it. The LCC's only want routes where they make money, and this may be a case of too much capacity for this particular route. I guess we shall see.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:53 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 32):
Both were Saturday only on nearly the same exact schedule. However, because of strong bookings, the FLL-FNT flight operated daily between January and April. The flight actually did better for Northwest than airTran, but when FL dropped it, so did NW.

why if they were doing so well?
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:10 am

Quoting KcrwFlyer (Reply 34):
Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 32):
Both were Saturday only on nearly the same exact schedule. However, because of strong bookings, the FLL-FNT flight operated daily between January and April. The flight actually did better for Northwest than airTran, but when FL dropped it, so did NW.

why if they were doing so well?

Because airTran dropped the flight. There was nothing left to protect, so they might as well send passengers through Detroit.

The flight did well, I never said "so well". Profits were probably marginal at best.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:23 am

FLL-FNT, since it was operated with a DC-9 was pushing it to the limits. On several occasions, a fuel stop in TYS was required.

I doubt this flight will just run through the end of October. It probably hasn't been loaded beyond that point. More or less, it may be suspended in Nov, but it will definetely be back for the holidays and of course the winter/spring break crowd. FNT-MCO/TPA at that point will go back to daily from Sat. only.

This situation is different than DEN-LAX, as FNT is one of NW's key heartland markets. DEN-LAX was purely to retaliate at Frontier for LAX-MSP that they quickly withdrew from.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:32 am

For a struggling company in a struggling industry... is going into a market where you'll have to have very low fares to beat the LCC competition a wise and prudent business move? If they were in an industry where they were making huge profit margins quarterly it would be different, but they're struggling to begin with and then voluntarily jumping into bloodbaths just to prove they have the testicular fortitude? And airlines wonder why they can't make money!
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:37 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 35):
There was nothing left to protect

NW.. protecting.. naaaaa. Yeah sure
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:37 am

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 37):
For a struggling company in a struggling industry... is going into a market where you'll have to have very low fares to beat the LCC competition a wise and prudent business move? If they were in an industry where they were making huge profit margins quarterly it would be different, but they're struggling to begin with and then voluntarily jumping into bloodbaths just to prove they have the testicular fortitude? And airlines wonder why they can't make money!

IF only airlines thought this way. This fighting market share in low yield markets has got to stop. Pick your battles just a little bit better.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:02 am

Wow, That was kinda quick, just last week I was asking who would start new routes from FNT, well, now I know at least one... Think there are more in the work?
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:43 am

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 21):
NW is getting a little tired of Air Tran being the cat's meow in Flint. Hence why the Florida flights last year. Its likely there will be CRJ service to LGA & DCA before too long from FNT.

Here is a possible answer.
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:59 am

PSU.DTW.S.....the TYS stop was because routing didn't route the model 30's with extra range tanks on the route. Sometimes they did it right and DID put the right model 30's on the route. I guess I was the lucky one the three times I flew the FNT-FLL route on Saturday mornings...no stops like the sched read. The dailys from FNT to the FLA stations should be back in December, using either DC-9's or A319's. Its been a good market for NW and airTran.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:07 am

AirTran has repetively applied for a SCASD grant (small community air service development) from FNT to start service to BWI & LGA and every time has been denied. Claiming that FNT & AirTran need these grants to start these routes is a joke, they could easily be sucessful without them. Claiming that FNT is a small, underserved community is not true when you look at other grant winners like PLN, RFD, LBE, AVP, RHI, etc.

That said, if they are awarded the grant this year, you can guarentee NW will counter with RJ's to both LGA & DCA. They may even do this on their own, to preempt AirTran, especially DCA where NW has unused slots and is connecting many of their key heartland markets with RJ's to the nation's capital....(LAN, GRR, MSN, DSM, IND, MKE)
 
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:57 am

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 43):
AirTran has repetively applied for a SCASD grant (small community air service development) from FNT to start service to BWI & LGA and every time has been denied. Claiming that FNT & AirTran need these grants to start these routes is a joke, they could easily be sucessful without them.

Small correction, but airTran has never applied for an SCASD grant. Flint has, and airTran has supported it, but airlines can't apply for the route.

I agree with you that it is riduclous. There is no need for grants for these flights. airTran could start them tomorrow and they'd likely do well. CAK-BWI/LGA have done tremendously well with no need for any ridiculous grants. These grants are for small communities, not northern suburbs of Detroit.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 3:30 pm

Ozark Bought a couple Longer range DC9-34LRs for the STL-LAS runs..I think they were N927L and N928L.....The LR meaning they had extra fuel tanks for longer range...They also used to fly them out to SAN.....When they got the 4 MD-82s N950U, N951U, N952U and N953U, those I imagine replaced the LR DC9s on the longer flights....

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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:56 pm

Hmmm...like NW would ever put capacity onto an unneeded route just because another airline did in orer to protect market share.

Oh. Wait. There was that whole LAN-IAD deal with DH. Went from 4X daily down to one when DH pulled out, and then NW shifted the flight over to DCA. Are we surprised that this happened soon after FL made their announcement? NOPE! Michigan is RED TAIL COUNTRY!
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:40 pm

Quoting DTW.SCE" class=quote target=_blank>PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 36):
FLL-FNT, since it was operated with a DC-9 was pushing it to the limits

Are you serious? There is a DTW-FLL on a -9 currently in the schedule.

Quoting Tornado82 (Reply 37):
is going into a market where you'll have to have very low fares to beat the LCC competition a wise and prudent business move?

It's paid off in MKE. I presume IND is doing well, though I have nothing to base that statement on, only rumor.

Quoting DTW.SCE" class=quote target=_blank>PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 43):
Claiming that FNT & AirTran need these grants to start these routes is a joke, they could easily be sucessful without them.

Sure, it is a total joke that they ask for that money, but, as MAH said, its not their money. But, it is there for the asking; why not ask for what amounts to free venture capital to reduce your risk and exposure in a new market. That's how they ended up in ICT.

Quoting DTW.SCE" class=quote target=_blank>PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 43):
They may even do this on their own, to preempt AirTran, especially DCA where NW has unused slots and is connecting many of their key heartland markets with RJ's to the nation's capital....(LAN, GRR, MSN, DSM, IND, MKE)

Totally true dude. Those unused slots are total aces-in-the-hole  Smile

Quoting NWrr (Reply 46):
and then NW shifted the flight over to DCA.

Seeing as LAN is the capital of Michigan, why not move the non-stop to Reagan, where it is tremendously easier to get to the capital of the U.S., as opposed to IAD, where you're an hour away.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:01 pm

MISRAR..on moving to a LAN-DCA, NW did. They no longer fly the LAN-IAD.
They have one RT a day lv LAN around 6 or 7am, return in the evening.

VEGASPLANES..North Central or Republic never flew DTW-LAS with a DC-9-30 or 50. N.Central did fly DEN-TUS and DEN-SAN in the late 70's with a DC-9.
I believe Republic may have used an MD-80 or 727-200 on the DTW-LAS route in the early 80's.
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RE: NW Starting FNT-LAS

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:39 am

The Press Release - Northwest Announces FNT to LAS

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050714/cgth039.html?.v=16

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