timz
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Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:13 am

Auctioning the June 1988 North Amer OAG, so more trivia from the listing:

Another California Airline we never heard of: the OAG calls it Qwest (QWest?) Air. Davies calls it Quest Air and says it flew only during 1988. According to this OAG the route map was SAN-LGB-MRY, SAN-OXR-MRY, OXR-LGB and OXR-SMF; they flew Dornier 228s supposedly.

As I recall Eastern's MCI hub expired later in 1988; at this point they have nonstops to MCI from ABQ ATL BOS ORD DTW IND LAS LAX MIA MKE LGA EWR OKC OMA MCO PHL PHX STL SAN SFO SEA TUL DCA and prop flights from 18 more cities. EWR-MCI-LAX and back, LGA-MCI-SFO and back are A300s; the latter are flights 1-2.

Dunno if this was near the peak of CO's Denver operation, but I count 48 airports that have nonstops to DEN on both UA and CO. Not UA or CO-- both. UA has two DC-8-71s OMA-DEN.

SunWorld has shrunk-- they now have nine LAS-OKC DC9 roundtrips a week, nothing else.

Lufthansa has a weekly COND STOPOVER TRAFFIC DC-10 BOS-LAX and a twice-weekly 747 DFW-IAH. OK flies an Il-62 YMX-ORD. (By the way-- in earlier years when BA flew the Concorde IAD-MIA it wasn't in the North Amer OAG-- couldn't it carry stopover traffic?)

MGM Grand Air has three 727 F-class-only JFK-LAX roundtrips, two XSa and one XMoTu. Rather than call them flights 1 thru 6 they figured their emptyheaded clientele would be more impressed by flights 100-200-300-400-500-600.

CO has seven D9S SJC-LAX, three D9S SJC-PDX, three D9S SJC-SEA and two 733 SJC-SAN. Still no mention of Continental West, if that's what it was. I wonder if AA Eagle really flew two Convair roundtrips BUR-OAK-RNO-- I don't remember seeing them, and I should have.

Princeton Air Link flies Islanders ABE-PCT-JFK and back, twice on TuWe and four times a day the rest of the week.

On the LGA-BOS/DCA flights, PA offers U class NO RESERVATION SERVICE along with the other choices-- EA doesn't. (Neither uses widebodies now.) U class is the only choice on Southern Jersey Airways' Twin Otter, one round trip AIY-WWD, and also on PBA's Cessnas from EWB to MVY and ACK. They have backup Cessnas for the rush?
 
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:32 am

Those were the days, just love eighties airline trivia…

Quoting Timz (Thread starter):
a twice-weekly 747 DFW-IAH

That LH 747 IAH-DFW lasted until the mid-nineties, IIRC.
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:58 am

The Continental DC-9's you see on the west coast are not Continental West rather they are what replaced Continental West. It was a seperate operation, so I am surprised there was no mention of it in your 1985 OAG. Continental West was actually pretty popular. They flew from San Jose to LAX, SAN, Portland, and Seattle. They planned to serve Phoenix and Spokane as well, but this never happened. On board service included Wine Tastings and chocolate chip cookies. As always thanks for the snapshot.
 
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:09 am

Quoting Timz (Thread starter):
EWR-MCI-LAX and back

Ah, good memories. Flew on my first 757 on the EA EWR-MCI-LAX same plane, 1 stop service.

As I recall, we had an extremely hard landing at LAX. As we turned off the runway, the captain came on and "credited" the landing to the First Officer!
 
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:21 am

Timz, can you tell me if DL still flew any L10's on MSY-ATL/LAX/DFW or if AA still had 767 service MSY-DFW? I am pretty sure the L10's ended around this time, as did the 767's, but i'm not certain of that. Thanks!
 
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:40 pm

Do you show StatesWest (YW) flying into Prescott, AZ along with Golden Pacific (YB) that summer?
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:09 pm

Quoting Timz (Thread starter):
Another California Airline we never heard of: the OAG calls it Qwest (QWest?) Air. Davies calls it Quest Air and says it flew only during 1988.

I wasn't familiar with this one so I went searching. Looks like the name was spelled Qwest. Supposedly filed Chapter 11 on 9/14/88.

I found some pictures of schedules and newspaper ads at another site. No pictures in the a.net database.
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/qwead.htm
http://www.timetableimages.com/ttimages/qwe.htm
http://www.timetableimages.com/i-19/7q8803i.jpg
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:22 am

Any idea if PA had any 747's domestic? (stupid question?)
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timz
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:57 am

Three daily AA 767 DFW-MSY; DL had L10-763-D8S-72S-757 DFW-MSY. No L10 ATL-MSY; LAX-MSY DL's only nonstop is a 757.

Prescott has YW SH6 from BHC, LHU and PHX. Also YW J31 from PHX.

As for domestic PA 747s, the question is did they ever not have them. In this issue they have three a day LAX-JFK and one SFO-JFK, and likely others.
 
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:18 am

Timz,
IIRC, UA had one DC10 flight which arrived into JFK around 4:00pm daily (in 1988). I never knew where this was coming from, and it was always my favorite plane as a kid. Any ideas, I think it may have been SEA.
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timz
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RE: Snapshot: More OAG Trivia, June 1988

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:35 am

In this issue, UA had no morning SEA-JFK flight. The first UA SFO-JFK was a D10 arriving at 1704. The first UA LAX-JFK was a D10 arriving 1627, to be replaced by a 767 on 10 June.