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Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:27 am

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:33 am

They sure do soar to new heights... after sitting on the taxiway waiting in line for about 30 minutes.  Big grin
 
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:15 am

At first I thought you missunderstood the article and said WN is moving when it says nowhere they are. Then I realize you were being sarcastic lol.

am I right??

haha, glad to see Southwest is happy at PHL.

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:54 am

For anyone who doesn't understand, his original comment "WN leaving PHL" was clearly sarcastic considering the subject of the article which describes how well WN has done in PHL
 
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:02 am

From the article:

Carolyn Harkins of Glen Mills capitalized on Southwest’s cheap rates when she went to visit a friend in Manchester, N.H., choosing to fly rather than drive seven hours. "I called actually the day before and got a flight for $49," recalled Harkins, adding that she enjoys the convenient, no-frills service. "It was a 48-minute flight and $49 round trip and that’s why I said ‘Wow, that’s amazing.’"

Is that normal? Or was she just lucky?
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:42 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 6):
Is that normal? Or was she just lucky?

Both are correct. SWA is still publishing last minute $49 fares in that market. (SWA’s short hops are usually $80-100 last minute/walk-up). She is lucky because she – like so many other PA residents are no longer taken to the cleaners by US.

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:45 am

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 6):
adding that she enjoys the convenient, no-frills service.

.................huh? Who enjoy's no frills? She only said that because she was happy to get a low fare.

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:49 am

That's $49 Round-trip? not one-way? No wonder there were a whole ton of Red Sox fans cheering on our team down in Philadelphia last month!

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:29 pm

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 8):
huh? Who enjoy's no frills? She only said that because she was happy to get a low fare.

Exactly. She was happy to trade a few frills for a lower fare. Yet some still feel that is, um, misguided.  Smile.

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:49 pm

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
That's $49 Round-trip? not one-way? No wonder there were a whole ton of Red Sox fans cheering on our team down in Philadelphia last month!

I'm assuming that the $49 fare (before taxes & fees) is one-way. The article either misquoted her or she had a Freudian slip. The cheapest r/t WN PHL-MHT advance purchase I've seen is $29 o/w (which equals a r/t total of $77). Recently, the advance purchase o/w fare is now $34 o/w (which makes a r/t total of $88).

Nonetheless, a $49 o/w (which makes for a r/t total of $118) is still a lot cheaper than when US was the only game in town.

As far as Red Sox fans flocking to Philly is concerned: 3 years ago, I attended an Orioles-Red Sox game at Camden Yards. I think there were more Red Sox fans there then Orioles fans. People sitting around me were from Framingham, Nashua, NH, Salem, NH. Being an ex-New Englander, I didn't mind at all. Many of them indeed, flew WN to BWI to catch the game that day.

However, to be fair, I'm sure FL's BOS-PHL flights were also packed w/Red Sox fans who attended those interleague games. One Saturday 2 years ago, I was on a FL's Flight 510 (PHL-BOS) that was packed with people flying up just to attend the Red Sox/Yankees game being played at Fenway. Last October, just after the Sox won the series; again Flight 510 was packed w/people who were originally planning to attend Game 5 at Fenway but wound up checking out the victory parade. I just happened to be on that flight because I was heading up to check out the Airliner Show at the Airport's Embassy Suites that day.

What can I say, this is just one more feather on WN's cap and one more thorn on US' side.

Thanks for the article, Paul (that one's actually from my neck of the woods) and for the sarcastic witicism (sp).

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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:02 pm

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 8):
huh? Who enjoy's no frills?

I would fly no frills for short trips (3 hours or less). Long haul trips - Give me the frills.

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 9):
No wonder there were a whole ton of Red Sox fans cheering on our team down in Philadelphia last month!

Who wants to see the Phillies in Philadelphia. But in all fairness, when the Phillies played the Orioles, there were many Phillies fans there.
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:12 pm

Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 8):
...huh? Who enjoy's no frills? She only said that because she was happy to get a low fare.

On a flight with this short of flying time, exactly what frills would she have received on US? Especially if it was on something other than an RJ? Would she have even been given a Coke?
 
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:46 pm

Quoting Goingboeing (Reply 13):
Quoting SonOfACaptain (Reply 8):
...huh? Who enjoy's no frills? She only said that because she was happy to get a low fare.

On a flight with this short of flying time, exactly what frills would she have received on US? Especially if it was on something other than an RJ? Would she have even been given a Coke?

Actually on the WN flight, she would've been offered peanuts or pretzels in addition to a beverage; the similar also holds true w/FL's PHL-BOS flights (cookie biscuit in the AM/pretzels in the PM). In contrast, on US' PHL-New England flights; the snacks have been recently dropped.

So in essence, the opposite is true here... in terms of frills.
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:11 pm

I actually went to 2 of the Phillies Redsox games a few weeks ago. One guy from boston in front of me said his flt down here on friday was 70% redsox fans, don't know what airline he was on though.

Another big reason redsox fans flock to places like Philly and Baltimore to see games is because it is cheaper than getting tickets at Fenway. Remarkably enough the trip down, the seats at the game, and the likely hotel stays don't compare to most of the tickets at fenway.
 
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:35 pm

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 15):
Another big reason redsox fans flock to places like Philly and Baltimore to see games is because it is cheaper than getting tickets at Fenway. Remarkably enough the trip down, the seats at the game, and the likely hotel stays don't compare to most of the tickets at fenway.

You do have a point there.
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:12 am

I flew BUF-BWI to catch a Red Sox Orioles game last Friday. The whole city was packed with Red Sox fans. I saw many more Red Sox fans than Orioles fans at Camden yards. Southwest has Red Sox fans to thank for filling planes into BWI for those four games.
 
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RE: Southwest Soaring To New Heights After Move To PHL

Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:22 am

As someone who travels every week on BOS-PHL -- I recommend leaving plenty of cushion time to make the games. The flights are generally 1-4 hours late just about every afternoon.

Just some advice to those of you who are thinking of doing this...