c172
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AA 777 Transatlantic

Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:16 pm

I flew LAX-LHR and LHR-ORD with AA on 777 and found the service to be superb. Clean, comfortable airplane, excellent in-flight service, and LAX-LHR flight landed 40 minutes ahead of schedule. I thought all was lost for the US airlines until that trip. Progress is being made.
 
AA787
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:54 pm

I'm glad you had nice flights.

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eyeonthesky17
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:17 pm

I had a similar experience with AA in Y class to LHR from JFK in 2001. I'm glad to hear that they continue to provide great service. The 777 makes all the difference. I recently flew LHRJFK with UA on the triple. Also, excellent service.
 
TS
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:41 pm

I've read somewhere AA want to get rid of their extra seat pitch on the 777. Will this also effect transatlantic routes?

Thomas
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aa777223er
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 1:36 am

Quoting TS (Reply 3):
I've read somewhere AA want to get rid of their extra seat pitch on the 777.

I haven't heard anything about this at work. The 777's were delivered with the current seat pitch and I don't believe AA has any plans to change it.

Regards,

AA777223ER
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1MillionFlyer
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:18 am

Quoting TS (Reply 3):
I've read somewhere AA want to get rid of their extra seat pitch on the 777. Will this also effect transatlantic routes?

It is already gone  Sad
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AAgent
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:13 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 5):
Quoting TS (Reply 3):
I've read somewhere AA want to get rid of their extra seat pitch on the 777. Will this also effect transatlantic routes?

It is already gone

1MillionFlyer,

I will double check my facts but I believe that you may be mistaken. Some seats (not all seats) were returned to some of the fleet types (super 80's for example), however I believe the 777 underwent no seating changes.

Respectfully,
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AA 777
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:20 am

The 777 will have its More Room Throughout Coach (MRTC) removed this coming fall/winter. However, if I have it right, they will only add one row of the original two that were taken out - so in a way it is still MRTC.

All of AA's fleet will have seats added in. All the 737's are done - they went from 16/120 to 16/132. All S80's are done - they went from 14/115 to 16/120. The 757's and A300's have been done for a year or two (they were the first to have seats added in i.e. leisure markets. Im not sure if all the 767's are done yet and the 777 will under go reconfiguration this coming winter.

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Newark777
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:24 am

I will double check my facts but I believe that you may be mistaken. Some seats (not all seats) were returned to some of the fleet types (super 80's for example), however I believe the 777 underwent no seating changes.

Hey, believe it or not, 1MillionFlyer has actually BEEN ON a 777!  Wow!

So, I don't know if you should argue with him, since he is obviously the expert here.  Wink

Harry
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1MillionFlyer
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:27 am

COOL you can slam me every where!!!

Newark this is a "big boy" thread. MRTC is in the middle of going awaay
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ConcordeBoy
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:27 am

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):
I flew LAX-LHR

Though I realize the intent of your title....

...for the sake of clarity, LAX-LHR is usually (if not always) flown by AA's TransPacific-configured 772ERs, despite being over the Atlantic.
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Newark777
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:29 am

Newark this is a "big boy" thread

You obviously don't belong, then.

Harry
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1MillionFlyer
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:31 am

I know you are but what Am I.... here we go!!!!!
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broncoguy
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:33 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 12):
I know you are but what Am I.... here we go!!!!!

Please grow up, no one has started the kiddy games except you.

Back on topic...
Why does AA send pacific airplanes over the Atlantic?
 
1MillionFlyer
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:36 am

http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Ame...ican_Airlines_Boeing_777-200_A.php

American will be adding additional seats onto these planes by December 2005, removing "More Room Throughout Coach" and reducing the seat pitch a few inches. We will update the site with new configurations as they become available. Underseat space at all A, J, D and F seats is limited due to entertainment system box.


they have already started to add seats, you can;t be sure every 777 you get on this summer will still have MRTC that is the point
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ConcordeBoy
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:12 am

Quoting Broncoguy (Reply 13):
Why does AA send pacific airplanes over the Atlantic?

A combination of fleet utilization, market demand, and the slightly longer range of their TransPac 772s
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abirda
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:36 am

Quoting 1MillionFlyer (Reply 14):
they have already started to add seats, you can;t be sure every 777 you get on this summer will still have MRTC that is the point

Okay, 1MillionExcuses, let's get something straight. On all AA fleet types except for the high density leisure birds (752 and A306), only half the seats removed are being added back to the cabin. The 772, 738, 763 and MD-80 will still offer greater comfort than the industry average at around 33" pitch in economy.

Second of all, I assume that since you have been on an 6 AA 777s versus 5 DL 777s you would have us believe that you are even more of an expert in the removal of MRTC than you are in the fine judging of nonexistant/doesn't go all the way to the front/existant/just an illusion/crazy photo editing conspiracy center bins in newly configured 777s.

We will all, of course, overlook the fact that since not a single 777 has gone in for the addition of seats, as discussed in several recent threads, you could have no first hand knowledge of anything in this specific argument.

I look forward to whatever excuses you will continue to bombard us with. But please note: attacking me based on my age gets you nowhere. Have you read the DL 777 thread recently? You just make yourself look like a petty fool with nothing left to stand on. When will you learn that some people don't just know more than you in some topics of conversation, but they express it more clearly and more respectably than you apparently choose to do?
 
CRJIAD
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:18 am

Wow what ever happened to forgiveness. I understand he has been badly mistaken and way off base but to bash this guy every chance you get seems senseless. I dont think 1millionflyer ment any disrespect ON THIS THREAD.  white 
 
abirda
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:26 am

I just thought I would try to help 1MillionFlyer understand that he has to stop holding up his own experiences (which never seem to align with the situation, anyway) as indisputable facts. In four terse words, he gave a completely misinformed, incorrect and misleading response which served no other purpose than to mislead the prior posters who posed legitimate questions. I am sorry if I come across as harsh, but I don't believe I am alone in being somewhat frustrated (albeit a rather bemusing frustration!) with 1MillionFlyer for flooding the board with his utterly useless personal experience which he attempts to fraudulently pass off as legitimate knowledge.
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:33 am

Hmm. Every American flight I've had seems to have been bad-terrible food, surly staff, and delays. Either you have better luck, or you're very optimistic.
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:38 am

Quote:AbirdA(reply18)
I just thought I would try to help 1MillionFlyer understand that he has to stop holding up his own experiences (which never seem to align with the situation, anyway) as indisputable facts. In four terse words, he gave a completely misinformed, incorrect and misleading response which served no other purpose than to mislead the prior posters who posed legitimate questions. I am sorry if I come across as harsh, but I don't believe I am alone in being somewhat frustrated (albeit a rather bemusing frustration!) with 1MillionFlyer for flooding the board with his utterly useless personal experience which he attempts to fraudulently pass off as legitimate knowledge.


I concur. Sorry i just didnt want every thread to end in a 1million bashing festival.

[Edited 2005-07-17 01:45:24]
 
abirda
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:51 am

I totally understand. I have no intention of carrying this 1MillionFlyer thing far at all.

If you read this, 1MillionFlyer, please be more respectful of the other members when posting from now on. That's all I ask.
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:11 am

I too had a good experience on AA from MIA-EZE-MIA. I travelled coach and got my moneys worth IMHO. Nothing extravagant, but everything was clean, the cabin was well serviced and all of the F/As were friendly.

-AA777
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:55 am

I don't care what you all say, the service on the WN 773 is superior to AA 772!

 Smile

Does AA still have MRTC on their 772?

 Confused
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AA787
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:07 am

I wish I could say that I have seen a WN 773.

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N725RW
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:23 pm

I'm flying on an AA 777 LAX-LHR on Sat, 7/23, in C class. I'm looking forward to it, as I normally fly VS over the Atlantic. I would enjoy comparing the service of the two (I know it's like comparing apples & oranges). I would like to point out, when I'm on an AA single aisle (737, MD80, 757) the F/A are a bit surly indeed. No smiles, very curt and very short on attention (an I only fly first class, and that is the treatment). I have flown several times between SFO-MIA on 763 and the F/A are FANTASTIC! (F-class) I'm not sure if it's because it's a wide bodied aircraft, more F/A's or what. I wish AA would get more F/A's like that, on the rest of the mainline fleet. I have to admit, I get tired of paying $1000+ to get bad attitude with food quality that was like it was in coach in the 80's (again, F-class domestic service).
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:29 pm

An WN 773 would be a sight to see.
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:35 pm

Quoting Aa777jr (Reply 23):
Does AA still have MRTC on their 772?

Does anyone read the thread before replying? I said in reply 7 that none of the 777's have gone through reconfiguration yet.
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N270FT
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:15 pm

I agree with you about AA. I have never had had a bad flight on them. (although I try to avoid the 757 whenever possible). They truly put all of the other US legacy carriers to shame.

A.W.
 
kevin752
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:31 pm

I am glad that I am not the only one here that likes AA and belives that they are a good airline. I am glad that you had a great flight on AA 777 over seas. I am going to try that one of these days.

Kevin752
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:58 pm

I love flying AA, but thank god I got a break from them with my current AAdvantage RTW! Im taking OCW and NCW on BA Tuesday TLV-LHR-GRU-GIG and flew IB SDQ-MAD about a month ago. So far, I think IB's J Service is on par with AA (Which is not saying much), but the seats on AA are far more comfortable in J (Which says a lot - of bad things- about IBs J seats).
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:10 pm

I would like to THANK YOU for Flying American Airlines.
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:01 pm

haha Awesome. When I was looking at flights for my next trip to europe (scotland/north ireland) I was hoping of flying an AA or UA 777.. well for the dates I was looking at I could only find a AA 757! Which I'm not too keen on.  Sad However- I might go from JAX to GLA, than SNN to CDG, than finally CDG to JAX. So I might just be able to pull off a UA 777 out, and an AF 777/A340 back! We'll just have to see how it works out. Sorry for straying off topic by the way. The main point is - I'm glad you had an enjoyable flight on AA and hopefully I, too can fly the 777 (ex-)"Luxury Jet"!  Silly
 
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:16 pm

Quoting Newark777 (Reply 8):
Hey, believe it or not, 1MillionFlyer has actually BEEN ON a 777!

Harry-how do you know?

Quoting UAalltheway (Reply 32):
When I was looking at flights for my next trip to europe (scotland/north ireland) I was hoping of flying an AA or UA 777

Trust me...UA is a nice ride in first...beats AA hands down.
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abirda
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:22 pm

Quoting Jdaniel001 (Reply 33):
Harry-how do you know?

1MillionFlyer proudly informed us of his tally of 777 rides in a recent thread. Without churning up the past, it has become quite infamous and Harry was making a joke.

Quoting Jdaniel001 (Reply 33):
Trust me...UA is a nice ride in first...beats AA hands down.

I'm not so sure I'd agree there. I think that service and food would be equal in the two experiences (these things are so hard to quantify), and the Flagship Suite on AA is a superior product just in terms of features and personal space to United First on the 777. Actually, the experience would probably be equally rewarding with either carrier...tough call.
 
sevenheavy
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RE: AA 777 Transatlantic

Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:16 pm

Hi,

...for the sake of clarity, LAX-LHR is usually (if not always) flown by AA's TransPacific-configured 772ERs, despite being over the Atlantic.

In fact the LAX-LHR flights (136/137, 134/135) are almost always atlantic configured B777's. They usually rotate at LHR with aircraft that have come from JFK. The same aircraft then operate back to LHR from LAX. The route that most often has a pacific configured B777 is MIA (and to a lessor extent, ORD.). The MIA aircraft often routes through DFW, LAX and then on to NRT, this is just for the sake of efficient utilisation and does change frequently.

A combination of fleet utilization, market demand, and the slightly longer range of their TransPac 772s

According to AA's aircraft manuals all of their B777's are B777-223ER's with identical range, and all have capabilities way in excess of a measly LAX-LHR route  Wink.

As mentioned before all B777's (pacific and atlantic) will have an extra row of seats added in coach. Average seat pitch is still going to be around 34' (instead of up to 36' with mrtc) which is better than the industry standard of 31'-33'.

Regards,

SevenHeavy
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