What a joke your post was! Let's try the truth now shall we?
>>>I personally don't know what all the focus is about "focus citys". I haven't seen the
numbers, but I know that TWA at SJU is anything but a homerun. How San Juan was
chosen is beyond me. AA has and will continue to always be demonint at SJ and MIA,
they own the Spanish speaking clientele, and the strong connections engineered by
former AA chief Crandal are very tight and will continue to benefit AA long into the
Actually the SJU focus city is doing very well for TWA, despite it being a low yield market.
AA does not "own" the Spanish speaking clientele, and you'd be surprised how much resentment there is in the Caribbean and S. America over AA's monopolistic dominance of those markets.
>>>He played politics very well and it shows. American has the infrasture, history,
and know-how to compete in the LatAm/Carribbean market. However, AA wisely has
shifted mush of its LatAm business and operations to MIA and replaces jets with
turboprops on many SJU flights.<<<
If you considering buying up and expanding upon PanAm's old routes as playing politics, then you are a bigger idiot than I thought. AA moved in on a read- made market, and not because CrAAndal was a genius.
>>>Why? One, San Juan has little in the way of
high-paying business travelers and AA's flights have been comprised of mostly
vacationers using FF points or cheap tickets from travelocity and the like. If TWA
wants that market, well it won't do much to help the airlines less than stellar financial
TWA recognize that SJU is primarlily low-yield traffic, however there is money to be made as TWA have shown with their correct choice of focusing on SJU. There is a large market for O&D traffic out of SJU that has nothing to do with FF miles. As for cheap tickets, a profit can still be made and last time I checked a ticket to SJU is NOT cheap no matter who you fly with. SJU HAS
in fact helped TWA's financial situation--like it or not, TW have made money with SJU.
>>Second, business travelers changing planes to points south, prefer modern
American airports to old, cramped Luis Munoz Marin airport.<<<
Last time I checked, ATR 42's to GHB (Governor's Harbor), GGB (Georgetown), FPT (Freeport), MHH (Marsh Harbor), Treasure Cay (TBB), Anguilla (AXA), BQN (Aquadilla),
Mayaguez (MAZ), Ponce (PSE), Providenciales (PVS) and many more destinations were not
. Believe it or not, the Caribbean market is mostly a tourist market--duh!
>>>After TWA initated SJU-Aruba MD80
flights, Delta immediately started flights to Aruba from its much larger and dominant
Please explain how SJU-AUA competes with ATL-AUA! Totally different market!
. I believe Delta served AUA before TWA came to town anyhow.
>>>This cherrypicking will only continue and just as RJs helped others
to bypass STL, many will bypass SJU<<<
People will not use SJU on TWA to connect to points further south (other Caribbean destinations). Duh! SJU is O&D traffic all the way!!
>>>Third, TWA's midwest parochial culture is
VERY different than that of the Spanish speaking Carribean territory<<<
Ah...and AA's Texas Protestant culture is also very different. What are you talking about?!?!
Somehow TWA are filling a 757 from STL-SJU. There are a LOT of Puerto Ricans in the United States my friend.
feeder service is anything but committed to TWA. Let's remember they decided to
move to SJU first, before TWA committed to "focus city" operations there. Also
Gulfstream does the same thing for TWA that it does for United and Continental. <<<
Regional carriers commonly serve 2 or 3 major airlines. Look at TSA, they are the regional carrier for United Express, TWE, and DL Connection.
>>>As for other focus citys. FLL would be a disaster. Already FLL is very tight and TWA's
marketshare there is minuscule. I can get the figure if its needed.<<<
FLL is doing very well for TWA. They are filling up the MD80's to SJU and the LAX redeye service is also pretty popular. Do get that figure, and I will be getting mine. I challenge you to prove FLL is not successful for TWA.
FLL is fierce and two other airports are less than an hour away, AA's megalith Miami,
and PBI. <<<
AA Jet departures at MIA = 127----hardly a "megalith"
PBI is a small airport compared to FLL, mainly for the rich folk who don't dare drive too far from their mansions.
>>>Many low-cost operations are well-situated at FLL, such as Spirit, Metrojet,
JetBlue, and Delta Express.<<<
What's your point? Low fare and traditional carriers co-exist at MANY
airports. Just look at MCO (Orlando)!
>>>Tower tried to jump into the fray with daily flights to JFK
and was clobbered. After decarling chpt 11, JFK-FLL was the first to be dropped, so
yeah the market is expanding but only a very professional, efficient operation will
Tower operated a 747 JFK-FLL for years until Chapter 11. Just because an airline in bankrupcy drops a city, doesn't mean it can't be profitable. Tower was a garbage airline that could barely get their metal out on time---how does their faliure illustrate that only "an efficient professional operation will survive"? Isn't this true of the entire aviation industry or ANY
industry for that matter?
>>>USAirways and Delta/Delta Express are firmly intrenched. <<
Both are low-fare carriers concentrating on North-South Services (i.e. NE to Florida)
TWA does not compete for low fare trash pax, and do a lot of their flying to FLL on an east-west basis (i.e. LAX, STL, etc.) They are not even competing with DLX or MJ.
>>> I' cant believe Compton would go to New Orleans, home of Southwest.
TWA used to have a NewOrleans-Dallas that was dropped due to poor yields and as
someone correctly reported, NewOrleans-Mexico City is also a mess.<<<
MSY is a low yield market. This has nothing to do with Southwest. How is it that SWA and TWA can peacefully coexist at STL if they are in living fear of Herb and his red-bellies?
MSY-DFW has too much competition as it is (AA, DL). MSY-MEX didn't work and will be cancelled. Airlines experiment with routes all the time.
>>>what TWA needs is to consolidate at STL,
continue nich flying to middle east and Africa from JFK...."<<<
Wrong. Their strength at STL is already there, they are running out of gate space and have held the Midwest market for many years. They will continue the niche flying to the Middle East, but also continue niche flying within the US. Why do you think TWA should do niche services abroad but cry foul when they attempt an FLL or SJU focus city. Its pretty much the same idea, no?
>>>.... and start turning profits.<<<
Folks I think we have a winner. Your solution for their financial troubles is to turn profits. Hmm...wonder if Compton's thought of that one yet? What do you think TWA is trying to do?
150 A318s and 100 717s made TWA the laughingstock of the industry. Thankfully that
was Compton's predecesor who can only do damage from the chairman's office now.<<<
More chaff. The acquistion of new aircraft is one of the things keeping TWA alive right now. Think of the reduced operating costs, lower maintenace costs, lower fuel costs.
The 717 is a perfect substitute for ancient DC9's on the regional runs, and when TWA start getting the A318's point-to-point niche flying will take on a whole new meaning.
The new MD83's are also helping out.
Oh NeedsHelp, there is so much more I want to say to you and you have posted so much innacurate garbage about Big Red that you have made me mad
Instead of criticizing, why not make some suggestions about how TWA could improve itself for the future? Everybody is an armchair CEO.
TWA Employees are fighting the good fight to keep the airline alive and all you can do is sling mud. The Focus Cities (more point to point) are an excellent idea that has paid off for the airline. I don't know where you are getting your incorrect information, but you could use a reality check!