TimeForFlight
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UA Loads 7/19

Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:39 pm

I'm flying UA from LHR-ORD at 3:40 pm on July 19 and was curious if anybody knew the loads. On my inbound flight (IAD-LHR) I received a complimentary upgrade because it was oversold. Might I have any such luck or be able to volunteer my seat when returning?
 
cyberual
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RE: UA Loads 7/19

Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:54 am

All of the flights are over in Y, however, do not expect a comp upgrade unless you are a Global Svc, 1k, or 1p. You may also buy the upgrade at the counter if they offers it.
 
lorm
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RE: UA Loads 7/19

Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:42 am

12-03 F 49-37 C 197-216Y
777 listed as A/C
Have a nice trip.

[Edited 2005-07-18 04:43:58]
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baw716
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RE: UA Loads 7/19

Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:43 pm

Thanks Lorm for the information. Now time to interpret it for our friend who is traveling. As an ex UA analyst, I can tell you how this flight will fall out.

You are flying westbound, therefore you are traveling with Europeans who are headed to the States on holiday. This means the no show factor is going to be fairly low but no shows on most flights, even heavily booked ones tends to run anywhere from 7-10%.

The aircraft is not full in C or F, and only 19 over in Y. In order for you to be able to volunteer for an upgrade and make it, you have to be one of the elite flyers mentioned above AND hope that the flight has less than a 9.7% no show factor. While the latter is possible given its real close to the August holidays in Europe, the former is going to get you. Unless you are prepared to pay for your upgrade, your chances of being upgraded are very poor.

However, one never knows, so be prepared to be nice, look nice and be helpful. Sometimes, an agent will pick a nice regular passenger over an obnoxious 1K just to maintain order in the Business or First cabin. Its all in the hands of the agent.

Expect to ride in the back, and hope for the best.

Good luck!

baw716
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TimeForFlight
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RE: UA Loads 7/19

Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:50 pm

Thanks everyone.
I always expect to ride in the back as that's all I ever pay for  Smile
I must admit that it is a pleasant surprise to receive a comp upgrade, but it's rare. I think I've been lucky with 2 upgrades in around 16 transatlantic r/ts. But I must admit, UA's service is quite nice (as experienced coming over) and I'm looking for to flying with them JFK-NRT-BKK next month.

Again, thanks for all the help. We'll see if I can get lucky, but even if I can't a 777 is an amazing aircraft!
 
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RE: UA Loads 7/19

Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:22 pm

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 3):
However, one never knows, so be prepared to be nice, look nice and be helpful. Sometimes, an agent will pick a nice regular passenger over an obnoxious 1K just to maintain order in the Business or First cabin. Its all in the hands of the agent.

As a UA premier executive flyer, I heartily agree with the above. If you are polite, patient and well dressed, it greatly increases your chances of scoring an upgrade. I've been bumped up on over half of the UA flights I've taken this year, and week before last, I even got bumped up on a SAS/United code share to Copenhagen. Going to Vienna last week, I almost made it into Austrian business using the same approach.

The key is to ask first at check in, where you will almost always be told the gate handles upgrades. However, ask at this point, because I've been upgraded more than once by asking at check in. When you get to the gate, be patient and wait for the crush of passengers complaining about their seat assignment has passed, and then approach the agent. Smile, sympathize with his/her plight at having to deal with the obnoxious and arrogant oaf who has just been in the agent's face, and ask if upgrades are available. If you are told no, just ask if you can be put on a list just in case.

I can't tell you how many times I've been told "no," yet have ultimately been given a business or first class ticket.
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RE: UA Loads 7/19

Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:40 pm

I've got another one: Can someone tell me the loads of UA 947 (7/23) AMS-IAD-LAX, I know the flights are operated with a 777 and a 757. And the loads of UA 946 (8/14) LAX-IAD-AMS, I know these flights are operated with a 747 and a 777. Anyone?
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