khenleydia
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A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:36 am

Okay, I thought I had a grasp of the 320 series until I saw one at LHR that said A320-200. How many different A320s are there? What exactly does the 200 refer to? Passengers? Engines? I'm guessing it has nothing to do with length.

I look forward to hearing your answers!

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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:41 am

Just about every A320 around is an A320-200.

I believe that the first 15 A320s produced were A320-100s: 5 for BCal (went to BA), 5 for Air Inter (AF) and 5 for AF itself. One difference between the A320-100 and the more common -200 is the wing fences (the mini-winglets at the end of the wing), the -100 models do not have them. I am not sure of what the other differences are, but I do think that the early model -100 variants have less range than the more typical -200 models.
 
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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:43 am

There were A320-100's at the very beginning. Only a few are in service. They don't have wingtip fences. All other A320's are -200's. Same length as you say. In fact, pretty much the same airplane.
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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:44 am

>> What exactly does the 200 refer to? Passengers? Engines? I'm guessing it has nothing to do with length.

The initial production of the A320 began as the A320-100, and approx. 25 or so were produced. Production shifted to the -200 which featured higher MTOW and payload, as well as introduction of the wingfences.

Additionally:

There is also an A321-100 and a higher payload A321-200. All A318 and A319 are -100.

The last two digits refer to the engine selection (either CFMI or IAE)
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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:49 am

Thank you all for the answers! I learned a new thing today.  Smile I must say, I figured there would have been a larger difference, but I guess MTOW could be reason enough. The wingtip fences I wouldn't see as enough of a reason for the new type. But hey, they didn't ask me!  Smile

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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:54 am

The A320-200 is the now baseline version of the A320. The original A320-100 is no longer in production - I believe only 21 of these were produced and only fly for Air France and British Airways (BA inherited these A320s from a British Caledonian order). Air Inter also flew the A320-100 prior to its integration into Air France.

The A320-100 has no wingtip fences and als does not have as much fuel capacity, so its range is shorter than the now standard A320-200.


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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:19 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 1):
I believe that the first 15 A320s produced were A320-100s



Quoting EddieDude (Reply 2):
There were A320-100's at the very beginning. Only a few are in service.



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 3):
The initial production of the A320 began as the A320-100, and approx. 25 or so were produced.



Quoting EGNR (Reply 5):
I believe only 21 of these were produced and only fly for Air France and British Airways

Yes, 21 of the early A320s (c/ns 1 - 21) were -111s (though -200s - c/ns 22 onwards - had started flying before the last -100 flew). Two -100s crashed, one (AF) infamously at Habsheim in 1988 the other (Air Inter) at Strasbourg in 1992. Airbus still have c/n 001. The other 18 are all still flying - 13 for AF and 5 for British Airways.
 
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RE: A320-200?

Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:56 pm

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F-WWBA msn 001

Air France A320-100 :

F-GFKA msn 005
F-GFKB msn 007
F-GFKC msn 009 destroyed in a crash at Habsheim in June 1988
F-GFKD msn 014
F-GFKE msn 019
F-GFKF msn 020
F-GFKG msn 021
F-GGEA ex Air Inter msn 010
F-GGEB ex Air Inter msn 012
F-GGEC ex Air Inter msn 013
F-GGED ex Air Inter msn 015- Destroyed in a crash near SXB in January 1992
F-GGEE ex Air Inter msn 016
F-GGEF ex Air Inter msn 004
F-GGEG ex Air Inter msn 003

F-GFKQ (msn 02) was also an A320-100. It was converted into a -200 before being delivered to AF in January 1991 but though a -200, it was not fitted with winglets.

British Airways A320-100

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RE: A320-200?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:39 am

FlySSC, my compliments on your excellent fleet list. Great job!
One question tho...the A320 prototype...is Airbus still using it as a testbed aircraft, or is it grounded collecting dust? Regards.
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RE: A320-200?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:09 pm

A320-236, A320-232, A320-256 etc etc etc are all the same aircraft model but with different number of seats, engines etc
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RE: A320-200?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 5:43 pm

FlagshipAZ,

msn 001 F-WWBA is still (very) active ! it is still used for testing new improved systems (software, brakes, etc...) or for demonstrations abroad.


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RE: A320-200?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:03 pm

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 3):
There is also an A321-100 and a higher payload A321-200.

Yep, the 321-200 has an additional fuel tank which the 321-100 has not and of course it was modified to bear those higher loads. It has also more powerful engine derivatives than the 321-100.

Does anybody know what Airbus made to increase the range of the 320-100 to reach the range of the 320-200? Added a centre fuel tank?


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RE: A320-200?

Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:44 pm

The original A321-100 shows a reduction in range compared to the A320-200 as the extra fuel tank was not added to compensate for the extra weight.

To overcome this, Airbus launched the longer range and heavier A321-200 in 1995 witch has a full PAX transcontinental US range.
This is achieved through higher thrust V2533-A5 or CFM56-5B3 engines and minor structural stengthening and 2900 Litres (766 US Gal.) greater fuel capacity with the installation of an additional center fuel tank.
 
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RE: A320-200?

Wed Jul 20, 2005 4:55 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 9):
A320-236, A320-232, A320-256 etc etc etc are all the same aircraft model but with different number of seats, engines etc

Almost  wink . Airbus model numbers are decyphered as follows...
A3XX-ABC
Obviously, A3XX is the model - e.g. A320, A330, A340, A380, etc.
'A' denotes the series of that model - e.g. A340-200, A340-300, A340-500, A340-600, etc.
'B' denotes the engine manufacturer:

  • '0' = General Electric,
  • '1' = cfm International,
  • '2' = Pratt & Whitney,
  • '3' = International Aero Engines,
  • '4' = Rolls Royce,
  • '6' = Engine Alliance


Examples:

  • A320-111 - an A320-100 fitted with the first variant of the cfm powerplant made available on the A320.
  • A300-605 - an A300-600 fitted with the fifth variant of the General Electric powerplant made available on the A300.
  • A330-342 - an A330-300 fitted with the second variant of the Rolls Royce powerplant available on the A330 model line up.

    Note: ('5' is not used - not sure why, maybe the joint venture for the engines on A400M was assigned the '5'?).

    'C' denotes the variant of that engine, e.g. on the A340-500 and A340-600. Both use the Rolls Royce Trent 500, but the A340-600 uses a higher thrust variant, so we have A340-541 and A340-642.

    MyTravel, Thomas Cook and Monarch all fly A330-243s with high seating capacity for IT charter work. Emirates, bmi, Etihad also fly A330-243s but with far fewer seats.

    Airbus's numbering system is more like that of a car manufacturer - everybody has the same model designation (badge on the trunk), but picks their own options (configures their own interior - seat numbers, etc.).

    Whereas Boeing give each customer models with their own unique numbers, e.g '7X7-X36' for British Airways, '7X7-X38' for Qantas, '7X7-XH4' for Southwest.
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RE: A320-200?

Wed Jul 20, 2005 5:07 am

I am very impressed by all the information! Wow! And I figured this thread would be dead after a day. Thanks everyone! EGNR, thanks for all the details. That helps a lot.

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