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AM 777 Will Be Presented This Friday?! Pls Confirm

Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:36 am

I heard from a friend that AM will present the 777 this friday. Can anybody confirm this?
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:30 am

No.

Boeing 777-200LR arrived this morning to MEX, it comes as part of the world tour, but this is not AM 777.

AM's 777 is due in on Feb. 16 2006

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Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:51 am

As stated above it's not AM's. It's Boeing's 3rd B777 doing a W.T. and stopping @ MEX just like it did in 1994 with the B777-200 and in 1998 with the B777-300ER.

Tomorrow AM will do several and very IMPORTANT announcements. AM has made a recent proposal to the board for the 3rd B777 for del. in October of 2006 and the 4th and 5th frames for 2007. It is said they will confirm the B737-800 AND... a new order for a different type my come... (info I ignore)!!! Could be either B737-900ER or B7877777!

The Wordlider rulllezzz!!! Her entrance in to MEX was just how I was expecting it....!!! Why MX went Airbus banghead}!!!


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Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:09 am

Sweet!!! Good news anyways. I hope they get the 787!!!  yes 

Thx for keeping us posted.
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:36 am

Wow, I will be checking a.net every few minutes tomorrow to read what the announcements are all about. I hope AM's board authorizes the leases of more 772ER's (by the way, would they all be -200ER's?). A five 777 strong fleet would allow 11 weekly MEX-MAD flights, at least one daily MEX-CDG flight, one daily service to GRU and 6x weekly flights to SCL as well, wouldn't it? I guess if more flights are added to these destinations, the remaining 767ER's can do the job (and be used for the MTY-MAD flights as well). I will keep my fingers crossed.

As for the 737-800's, that's good news too. I am sure they will be useful for the flights to ATL, MTY and MIA. Any idea if they will be wingletted too?

With respect to an order for a new type, I honestly think it is better to be skeptic, so I will not be counting on that. If it comes, it will be the cherry on the cake, though!!!
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:15 pm

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 2):
As stated above it's not AM's. It's Boeing's 3rd B777 doing a W.T. and stopping @ MEX just like it did in 1994 with the B777-200 and in 1998 with the B777-300ER.

Ghost, do you mean B773A?

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Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:34 pm

I hope they increase their order and announce new destinations.
 
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Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:01 pm

Aeromexico - best livery out there IMHO. Will look stunning on the 777.

How about you come abck to LHR? Any chance?
What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
 
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:38 am

AM could fly to LGW if it wanted, but it is not interested; it wants slots at LHR. Unfortunately, AM has not been able to get those slots and it probably won't happen.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:24 am

This and flight crews curently being trained( in AM ) signal that something is very misterious about the whole sale, expansion between the two majors.
This is grat news, why? because other than them being just rumors hopefully tomorrow this will be confirmed. This is indeed getting interesting. bgood.
 
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:30 am

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 7):
Aeromexico - best livery out there IMHO.

Really?? I always thought the current livery looked like someone didn't use a leveler while trying to paint the previous livery.
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Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:28 pm

AM's livery is the best out-there. If they change anything, anywhere I'm going to be really pissed off.
 
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:27 am

So, the announcement was...?

Ghost? Anybody?
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:14 am

Ahhh I'm on the edge of my seat!!! What's happening where's the news!?!?!  hyper 
 
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:37 am

Yea where is the news?? I have been waiting since yesterday for someone post something.
 
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:29 am

Ok!! This are the latest NEWS...!! I'm glad you haven't pasted anything that the Mexican media wrote yesterday with information all mixed up!!!

I yesterday was there during at the press release by the airline, they confirmed AM has sent a fleet plan to CINTRA's board counsel which is pending for approval only. They assure that they have arranged the slots with Boeing for delivery in the next years.

If approved, that plan includes the introduction of 15 aircraft for 2006 and 2007, which includes:

06 B737-800W. (2 for del. in '06 and 4 in '07)
08 B737-700W. (for del. in '06)
01 B777-200ER. (for del. in October of '06)

This ONLY needs CINTRA's board approval. As soon as CINTRA gives green light AM will disclose it. I expect a confirmation in the next two months given the fact that CINTRA's privatization process will be starting soon!!

But if Skyliner site is correct, AM has 12 additional orders for B737-700Ws for del. in 4Q of '07 and 1Q of 2008.

AM currently has 16 B737-700Ws + 10 or 12 new due for this year which makes 26/28.

If all this plans finish as planned and if no changes or additions come after, AM then will be flying a fleet by 1Q of 2008:

46/48 B737-700W.
06 B737-800W.
03 B777-200ER.

AM recently negociate and got good leases for some MD83/88s and they will keep them a little longer till 2008, they will retire a couple of MD87s but they will keep the best in shape till 2009. I don't know what the rest of the fleet will look like. B757s will certainly be gone by then and there's an unknown status of the B767 fleet, one sure thing is that AM will retire the MD82s between this year and the next one.

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Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:04 am

It will be different seeing Aeromexico without the MDs.The 737s are working out nicely for them, but the MDs will be missed.
 
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:20 am

Awesome! I really feel very happy that AM will be ordering the -800W. It is just what AM needs for its MEX-ATL flights. Maybe they can also be sent to MIA, LAX and IAH if demand exists. I expect to see them flying between MEX and MTY on peak days and times, and perhaps between MEX-CUN during puentes and the summer season. How many seats will the 738W's have? 148 (12 J's and the rest Y's)? And of course it is also great news that more 73W's are coming! As for the MD-80 retirement, I am glad the 88's are staying longer because their interiors have been nicely retrofitted and AM offers very generous coach cabin seat pitch. Are the 83's going to have new interiors as well? Finally, the arrival of a third 772ER by the end of 2006 is fantastic news. I hope that with this third triple seven AM can operate only 772ER's to Europe from MEX.

So, what should we expect as MD-87 replacement in 2009? More 73W's, perhaps some -600's or, better yet, EMB-195's?
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Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:19 pm

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 15):
03 B777-200ER

If approved by CINTRA will the 3rd 772ER be via ILFC?

Thanks for a great update Ghost77

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Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:27 pm

how are AM's M87s? I'm flying on two of them next week...
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Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:31 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 17):
How many seats will the 738W's have? 148 (12 J's and the rest Y's)?

According to a diagram I saw, 24J and 132Y for 156.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 17):
Are the 83's going to have new interiors as well?

The ones staying, yes.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 17):
So, what should we expect as MD-87 replacement in 2009?

Certainly more B737s!! And probably a few more B738s for the rest of the MD80s. Will be interesting to see what will replace the B752s... I don't see the B738s as 757 replacement or flying MEX-LIM or JFK!!

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 18):
If approved by CINTRA will the 3rd 772ER be via ILFC?

Thanks for a great update Ghost77

I guess so!!! Currently ILFC has lot more orders than GECAS. BTW, forgot to mention, there are rumors around of bringing forward the 1st B777 a month earlier, this is, getting it by January instead of February. Don't know if that's possible, can anyone confirm?

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Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:11 am

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 20):
24J and 132Y for 156

I am surprised that AM will have so many J seats in the 738's. 24 is just like in the 752's. Hopefully AM will have those seats filled with full-fare paying passengers because that ought to improve profitability.

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 20):
don't see the B738s as 757 replacement or flying MEX-LIM or JFK!!

While CO flies 73G's and 738's between MEX and EWR, I also do not see AM sending 738's to JFK because this is a route that has huge demand, and sending a smaller plane would be a bad idea. If AM keeps its current 767ER fleet once the 772ER's start to arrive, perhaps AM could send the 763ER to JFK! As for LIM, I wonder if the 738 has the legs to get there non-stop from MEX fully loaded with pax and cargo. If all the 752's are gone and AM is unable to upgrade LIM to 767ER service, I guess we will see AM downgrade the service to 73W's, giving LA and AR a huge advantage in terms of offered seats.

By the way, will the 738's have blended winglets too?
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Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:15 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 21):
am surprised that AM will have so many J seats in the 738's.

Yes! I was also very surprised when I saw that config diagram. I also saw that the T7 config change from 275 to 279, making it 49J and 230Y.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 21):
By the way, will the 738's have blended winglets too?

Yes, all B737NGs will have winglets.


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Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:19 am

I think AM is a good candidate for the 737-900ER. Darn no 787s.  spin 
 
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Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:21 pm

Quoting Mexicana757 (Reply 23):
I think AM is a good candidate for the 737-900ER.

I would think so too. However, the range of the -900ER is pretty much the same as that of the -800, which means it is not an adequate 752 replacement. Nonetheless, AM might surprise us and place an order for a few of them; after all, AM was always considered as a potential launch customer and I would not be surprised if Boeing asked for AM's input for the program. In the meantime, I am so happy that 738's are coming to AM. They will look fantastic in AM's colors.
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Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:19 am

WOW is all i can say! Im really so glad for my airline! i luv working here and it feels damn good seeing these kind of things!

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Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:39 am

Hey Ghost, is this info correct???

"El B777-200ER tiene pantallas individuales de 6 pulgadas en la Clase Turista para ver películas y videojuegos"

From Reforma at http://www.reforma.com/deviaje/articulo/547598/ (for subscribers only)...

I tougth they were going to use main screens, and not ptv's for Y...

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Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:57 am

Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 15):
there's an unknown status of the B767 fleet

That's really interesting. It'd be great if AM keep some 767ss and use them along the 777s.

Quoting Juventus (Reply 16):
It will be different seeing Aeromexico without the MDs

Agreed. I guess we are all used to see the beautiful Mad Dogs on AM color scheme.

Quoting AM001 (Reply 26):
"El B777-200ER tiene pantallas individuales de 6 pulgadas en la Clase Turista para ver películas y videojuegos"

I think I read something similar on El Universal (another Mexican newspaper) and it stated that the PTV's are only for business class.
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Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:29 am

Quoting AM001 (Reply 26):

Incorrect! AFAIK, there will be no PTVs. Only screens every 10/15 rows. Media confuse the info! They saw the B777LR configured in that way and people at Boeing told to the media that was the way PIA has requested it, but they never said AM and some people now believe it will have PTV's but so far, that info is incorrect.

Premier service will be good but economy will be as today is but with a few more screens.

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RE: Am 777 Will Be Presented This Friday?! Pls Confirm

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:23 am

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 21):
If AM keeps its current 767ER fleet once the 772ER's start to arrive, perhaps AM could send the 763ER to JFK!

As a regular passenger on the JFK - MEX route I would find the scenario mentioned above a huge bonus. I'd love to start flying Premier Class in the 767s over the 757s.