Blasphemystic
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How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:54 am

With the flames being soo close to the plane (as it is stated in the pic) why would they keep these runways active?


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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:01 am

Well, the runways aren't on fire, so why not? The airplane would have to be about in the fire for it to have any effect.
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:07 am

as long as there is no threat to the runway and the planes, i guess theres no problem. The fires look far enough from the runway for there to be any problems though.
 
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:11 am

And you always have the trusty ILS just in case the smoke gets too dense. Big grin
 
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:26 pm

Looks close.But Probably the Pic angle contributes to it.
BTW what was the Fire about.
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:30 pm

Risking some passengers life is cheaper than closing AGP at high season. Even if nobody will say this, it's true - it's true everywhere. Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid? Malaga should be far away from the Spanish capital.

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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 5:14 pm

You can actually see the flames  crazy 
I just wouldn't want to see that if I was looking out the window.
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 6:29 pm

Looks like the wind is blowing the smoke away from the runway... if the smoke was blown by the wind INTO the runway then it would be a different story... From local experience, smoke can turn your VFR300days a year into 30 days of CATII when you only got CATI ILS...

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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:15 pm

Pictures like those may show things really close to each other. In real, the stuff is much more away from the foreground.
In the desert you see suddenly a mountain. It looks close. But you might work endless miles to reach the mountain. That's here more or less the same. Be assured, that there is enough distance.

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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:18 pm

Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 5):
Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid? Malaga should be far away from the Spanish capital.

Thankfully it's not related to the fires in Guadalajara (Castilla La Manch region), next to Madrid, as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid. So most likely it's just another of the many forest fires which devestate the Spanish countryside every summer, and more so this year due to the sever drought the country is suffering from.
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:26 pm

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid.

Ah!
 
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:23 pm

Quoting EDDM (Reply 10):
Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid.

Ah!

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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:12 pm

^He meant Malaga.
Malaga is about 500 km south of Madrid.
 
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:21 pm

Oh,

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
as Madrid is approx. 500 km. south of Madrid

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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:50 am

thats a biiiiig city....
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:58 am

It probably has to do with zoom used, it appears much closer.
 
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:36 am

Yeah its the perspective for sure...in San Diego when we had the fires back in '03 and they opened the freeways back up, we could see the smoke and haze and some flames as we were driving along. This wasn't much of an issue. It was however, when they had to close TRACON because the fires were burning very close to it...that was chaos in terms of air travel in So-Cal.

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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:13 am

I wouldn't be worried about landing and departing aircraft..... I would be worried about re-fueling aircraft and incandescent bits of ash and the sort. Having said this, im sure the fire is sufficiently far away!
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RE: How Safe Is This? Or The Risks.

Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:56 am

I think the fire is far from the planes.

Quoting Toulouse (Reply 9):
Is it related to the wood fires next to Madrid?

There many fires in Spain in the Summer.
Many this year but many also not natural, the Guadalajara fire(controlled!!  Smile ) was caused by some people that didnt know what they were doing.
I cant even remember last time it rained, I think they said Spring 2004 on TV, this makes it a lot more easy for the fire to go fast.
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