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SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:40 pm

Due to industrial action, no flights have left JNB, DUR or CPT this morning. Understandably it must be utter chaos.

Here is a link to an article:

http://www.mweb.co.za/hubs/news/newsItem.aspx?id=top|2717266

I have friends who are supposed to leave for LHR tonight, connecting to YVR on AC. Hopefully they will get away. I'm just grateful that I'm not scheduled to fly out today.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:18 pm

I was just advised by SA in AMS that the two JNB-LHR flights for today have been cancelled as well as alot of domestic services and flights that are cancelled. Most Intercontinental flights without alternative services are operating and other pax have been rebooked where space is available.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:13 am

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Flights on South Africa's national air carrier have been disrupted as a result of a strike by ground and cabin staff.

South African Airways (SAA) cancelled certain domestic and international flights after strike action began on Friday morning.

Unions want an 8% wage increase, rather than the 5% they have been offered. A union official has said the strike could continue for days.

SAA flights to Lusaka, Nairobi and Entebbe have been cancelled.

Internal flights between Johannesburg, Cape Town and Durban have reportedly been "delayed indefinitely".

There are reports of a 200-metre queue at Johannesburg's international departures section, and an eyewitness spoke of "chaos".

SAA advised passengers to make alternative flight arrangements for Friday.

The airline said disruption was being kept to a minimum, and that passengers were being accommodated on other airlines.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:53 am

Well to update you all on the chaos! SAA Reps are no where to be found. It seems as though all flights have now been cancelled indefinately or at least until monday. Pax are not being rebooked at all, and most of them have been bussed to Sandton hotels. FIM's are only being issued so far for First and Biz pax, and most of these are for tomorrow only. 200 Mters according to my reports seems a little short with queues extending from the SA Intl ticketing desk all the way to the LH counters at the other end of the terminal, out the door and back down the outside of the terminal to the Car rental and parking area, that would mean a lenght of at least 750 Meters. This is only the International side!!!

So far other airlines flights are operating slightly delayed, with reports that only LH and LX will leave fully loaded and seats can currently still be booked with KL, AF, IB, OA, KQ, TP, QR, EK and BA. What is SA playing at!!!??? There are reports that SA check in staff actually changed out of their uniforms and into Civilian clothes to avoid being harassed by a "mob" of very distressed pax bound for BOM. There are reports of bribery to Check in staff to put people on any flight to anywhere.

In addition, it seams as though the flight crew have also joined the strike which is currently expected to run through Monday.

My mom was due to travel on SA 234 JNB LHR, and was advised next possible travel date was on Wednesday 27 July!

Hope no-one else has people stranded!!!

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:10 am

My professor and his wife was booked on SA236 to LHR tonight (connecting onto AC855 to YVR tomorrow pm) and at long last have now been re-routed to LHR on OA via ATH.

SAA Management saw this coming, they were warned about pending industrial action the past few days, yet thought the unions were bluffing and in the end were buffooned bigtime today. I wish I could quantify the overall amount of lost business revenue in ZAR and present SAA Management with the bill.

Check out the official statement on their webiste:

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SAA cancels flights due to strike action

Johannesburg. 22 July 2005. South African Airways (SAA) has been able to fly thousands of passengers since industrial action started early this morning. SAA has managed to, despite the industrial action by members of its cabin crew and ground staff, to operate a number of its flights.

"We are working with our own available resources and we have enlisted the help of other airlines. Industrial action intended to ground our operations have not succeeded and we are continuing our concerted and dedicated efforts to get our passengers to their destinations."

I would love to see the actual pax figures and not the mere "thousands" of pax the PR department are mentioning. Intercontinentals like: ATL, JFK, IAD, CDG, PER and LHR were cancelled tonight and the PR-machine still want to tell me that the unions did not succeed in disrupting flights?


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:34 pm

this seems to be a good thing from all the other carriers.....selling tickets at full fare...especially those heading to europe ET, EK, QR,LH, KQ and BA. I hope things get resolved quickly.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:31 pm

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 4):
SAA Management saw this coming, they were warned about pending industrial action the past few days, yet thought the unions were bluffing and in the end were buffooned bigtime today.

I had a meeting on Tuesday with my SA Sales rep. He advised me that they were told that there might be minor disruptions on the weekend, but they would only affect the domestic market. At 3pm Friday afternoon, I receive an email from SA Sales announcing that all U.S. services are being cancelled for Sat/Sun/Mon, and that DL will be handling all reaccommodations via Europe on Skyteam partners.

What a F***ing Joke! It took 2 hours for DL to disseminate this information amongst their res staff. It was a completely futile exercise anyway, as there is no economy class avaiiability on any Skyteam carrier (or any other carrier via Europe for that matter). My clients were due to depart SFO this Sunday. Thank God for CX!!! I was able to secure space via HKG. While not an optimal schedule, my clients will get to their tour and not lose thousands of dollars in pre-paid nonrefundable land arrangements!
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:25 pm

And people can flame all they want, but I'm with the unions on this one. I truly feel sorry for the pax and I am just as infuriated by this strike as much as they are.

Moreover, it is not just about the 5% vs 8% wage increase. The current management apparently have a very peculiar way of promoting staff. In one particular incident at the CPT base, a flight attendant with 1 year working experience, got promoted to purser. This while other applicants with 10 years and more experience were left out in the cold. Does this make sense?


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:48 pm

All regional and international flights have now been suspended. This after management yesterday stated that the unions have not succeeded in grounding SAA operations.

CEO Khaya Ngqula and PR machine Ms. Uys, are you awake right now?


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:27 am

And another "pearl" by the SAA CEO...

While South African Airways faced what could be the most crippling strike in its history, the Sunday Times has reported that the airline's chief executive Khaya Ngqula on Friday "abandoned" his post to attend a "junket" at a luxurious Mpumalanga hotel.

http://www.finance24.com/articles/de...p?Nav=ns&ArticleID=1518-24_1742594
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:14 am

A further quote from the article JoKeR linked to...

Quote:
"The CEO was in Nelspruit where a corporate function was taking place. This was an FNB function which he had to attend as FNB is one of our biggest clients," said Tabane.

Seriously - I know that functions by an important client can be, well, important... but for the CEO of and airline effectively grounded airline to go partying while there's a strike going on????? What the... ?

HELP SAA!!! FIRE KHAYA NGQULA NOW!!!

This guy is absolutely unbelievable!

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:19 am

Honestly I think under the circumstance and all you would skip this function and send a representative in your place.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:26 am

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 7):
In one particular incident at the CPT base, a flight attendant with 1 year working experience, got promoted to purser. This while other applicants with 10 years and more experience were left out in the cold. Does this make sense?

It only makes sense if the junior flight attendant was extremely well qualified, above and beyond the other applicants. I believe people should be promoted according to their ability. If the applicants are equal in all relevant capacities, then of course the most senior applicant should be promoted.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:52 am

The CEO found it more important to attend a trip to the game reserve than resolve the current crises.

[i]While South African Airways faced what could be the most crippling strike in its history, the Sunday Times has reported that the airline's chief executive Khaya Ngqula on Friday abandoned his post to attend a junket at a luxurious Mpumalanga hotel.

"The CEO was in Nelspruit where a corporate function was taking place. [/i}

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:54 am

All flights cancelled world wide. every where
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:00 am

This whole affair is just symptomatic of a continuous downhill spiral, caused by the outrageous incompetence of SA top management. Khaya needs to go, along with the rest of the management team. Khaya's doing to SA what Sam Njoma's girlfriend did to Air Namibia - drive it straight down the crapper.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:31 pm

Quoting AAgent (Reply 12):
It only makes sense if the junior flight attendant was extremely well qualified, above and beyond the other applicants. I believe people should be promoted according to their ability. If the applicants are equal in all relevant capacities, then of course the most senior applicant should be promoted.

I don't think making it to international purser in 1 year's time, goes well with extremely well qualified senior cabin crew who have patiently been waiting to get promoted.

This entire process is a joke.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:59 pm

Anyone with photos of grounded SAA flight in Cape town and Johannesburg ?
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:45 pm

Last Saturday and Sunday the SA 274 was cancelled but today SA 274 from JNB arrived this morning at ZRH with an A343. Normaly we get only A342s.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:16 pm

Apparently "relieve aircraft" have been dispatched to ATL, IAD, JFK, LHR, CDG, FRA and ZRH, to pick up stranded pax.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Mon Jul 25, 2005 11:55 pm

SAA's current widebody operational fleet consists of:
8xB744
9xA346
3xA343
6xA342

On Sunday morning, 25 out of SAA's 26 widebody aircraft were on the ground in South Africa. That must be some kind of record!!!!

The only aircraft not in the country at that time was B747-444, ZS-SAV, which managed to operate as the airline's only international flight to London the previous evening.

SAA's Technical must have been a sight to see with 22 of these widebodies in the airline's fleet on the ground at Jo'burg International.

The remaining 3 aircraft, an A340-600 and 2x B747-400's were on the ground in Cape Town at that time!

As mentioned in a previous post, SAA have begun to send aircraft abroad (mostly empty as there are not enough cabin crew to make the carriage of pax legal) to collect stranded pax at International destinations. Two notable flights that went out empty (or possibly with some cargo) last evening were the airline's flights to Atlanta and Washington. Both of these operated NON-STOP, instead of via Sal and Accra respectively. This is the first time that SAA flights have operated non-stop from JNB TO the USA!!!

Obviously there are waiting cabin crew at the various stations that positioned there before the strike that will be required to come back with these respective aircraft. Perhaps the agreement is that you can only be on strike if you are back home in South Africa? This however could present a new problem: When normal flight schedules eventually resume, there may possibly be no more cabin crew (within the required rest periods etc) at international destinations to man the return flights at the required scheduled time!!
 
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:16 am

Flights to Victoria falls were grounded too, 25 Aug!
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:50 am

Quoting TheFalcon (Reply 21):
Flights to Victoria falls were grounded too, 25 Aug!

You must mean July 25? Hopefully the strike will be something of the past by August 25!

At least both parties, SAA and the unions, have now agreed to go to the CCMA (Commission for Conciliation, Mediation and Arbitration) for help, as it is quite obvious that without government intervention, the strike will go on indefinitely.

As far as I can see, four internationals went out today: GRU, LUN and JFK via DKR. Whether there were any pax onboard, is uncertain as CAA regulations require minimum crew for flights

Hopefully all will end soon, in favor of the pax, unions and the airline's sake.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:21 am

This is a terrible situation, Stranded passengers everywhere.
CDG got a flight tonight which came empty.
As SAA201 mentionned, there will be a real problem when normal operations start again, as no crews are in Europe now for the return flights.

The situation is very difficult for those passengers, because all the flights with LH,BA,LX,KL,TP,VS,IB,MS,EK,QR,MK,SW are full full full. So, no many chances to reroute them.

Maybe SA lost in 3 days more money, than the costs of an 8% loan increase !!!

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:38 am

Quoting Myk (Reply 23):
Maybe SA lost in 3 days more money, than the costs of an 8% loan increase !!!

SAA Management can not even quantify the millions of dollars spent, at this stage; on pax put up in hotels, the provision of meals etc. Let alone revenue lost to planes sitting on the ground.

Quoting Myk (Reply 23):
As SAA201 mentionned, there will be a real problem when normal operations start again, as no crews are in Europe now for the return flights.

Maybe they will fly out crews on other carriers? This can always happen to another airline and I'm sure they help out each other all the time.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:41 am

...and a fully loaded SA plane with eventually happy passengers, just left CDG towards JNB.

Hope to see SA back soon in Paris !!!!
 
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:58 am

Quoting SAA201 (Reply 20):
Obviously there are waiting cabin crew at the various stations that positioned there before the strike that will be required to come back with these respective aircraft. Perhaps the agreement is that you can only be on strike if you are back home in South Africa? This however could present a new problem: When normal flight schedules eventually resume, there may possibly be no more cabin crew (within the required rest periods etc) at international destinations to man the return flights at the required scheduled time!!

wow.....fly empty again with only crew to pick up passengers? this is crazy !
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:19 am

This explains why a SA 747 is currently parked on the ramp by an FBO at IAD.
 
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:56 am

The SA747 On Ramp at IAD was full of pax. Upon Taxi and before T/O the plane was venting fuel out of the right wing. Fire brigade surrounded the plane until the situation was determined to be safe. Pax were offloaded and sent to hotels. Mechanics said the plane was ok to fly, however the A/P disagreed. By the time they could have some fuel drained the crew was out of crew time. The flight is now scheduled to depart at 0845 LT 26JUL. I feel really bad for the pax, some have been waiting since Saturday. However, all seemed to be in a fairly good mood considering the circumstances.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 3:59 pm

Well at least the ZRH and FRA flights have landed, with CDG and ATL expected within the hour. Both the LHR flights are delayed.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:27 pm

Parents were bound from Helsinki to Lusaka via ZRH and JNB today, postponed until about a week the agency said. What's the thing about the A343 in ZRH, it seems no further pax are "fed" to the flight, however? Were there lot of transiting pax so it really is a "relieve a/c"?

What are your guesses, can SAA afford many days of this shit, even a week??!!

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:46 pm

SAA Zurich does not expect for the next three days an SAA plane at ZRH.

For the freight out of Europe to JNB SA organised a freighter from Ostende to JNB on the 28th. SA 8604.

I do not know if this is a wetlease or not.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 6:48 pm

Well about 2000 international pax remain lodged in hotels with complimentary meal services.

Add to the fact that SAA haven't had significant revenue generating flights since Friday morning; albeit for a few domestics (3x confirmed flights to CPT, DUR and ELS at this stage) - usually there are hourly flights between JNB-CPT-JNB and JNB-DUR-JNB. The most significant factor being that no intercontinentals with pax went out since Thursday evening.

IMHO I would say that this strike has knocked them behind the knees; even though they are entering mediation this afternoon.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:21 pm

Can anybody tell me if there is a SA aircraft standing or expected in LHR today, July 26th ?
A friend of me is (normally) heading to Johannesburg this evening out of LHR.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:22 pm

Both SA234 and SA236 were cancelled last night, and to be honest I don't know if there are any SAA metal at LHR.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:14 pm

Having read the above inofrmation, i understand the situation to be this:

Non-South Africa based crew have flown from there to JNB and CPT, as scheduled, having operated from there respective bases. These crew are now being used to for flights from JNB and CPT to all destinations when they're back in hours, and a limited schedule is being flown, with limited capacity for safety reasons.

So here is my question:

If passengers (IF being the important word), are being accomodated in Hotels, and overseas crew are being hoteled during layovers - how long before hotels are full and passengers are sleeping in the terminals....or at the worst, a crew member is assaulted by angry passengers at a hotel and the all Cabin Crew walk out.

Maybe SAA can open up there 747's/340's as Hotel's while there not moving?

When the situation is finally resolved, how many passengers will be bumped off to make way for repositiong crew.

Sad days for SAA, lets hope the issues are sorted soon.....
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:39 pm

Quoting FlySwiss (Reply 31):
For the freight out of Europe to JNB SA organised a freighter from Ostende to JNB on the 28th. SA 8604.

Would you have any more details on this?

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:56 pm

Quoting BBJII (Reply 35):
Non-South Africa based crew have flown from there to JNB and CPT, as scheduled, having operated from there respective bases. These crew are now being used to for flights from JNB and CPT to all destinations when they're back in hours, and a limited schedule is being flown, with limited capacity for safety reasons.

SA does not have foreign based crew. All crew are South African based, either in JNB or CPT. Crews may have layovers in countries other than SA, but that does not define them as foreign based.
Though the majority of SAA cabin and ground crew is on strike, there are some crew members that are available for duties - they get paid extra during this time. E.g. domestic flights running between JNB and CPT+DUR+ELS. (3x times a day). As well as some of the intercontinental relief flights that went out to pick up stranded pax.

Quoting BBJII (Reply 35):
If passengers (IF being the important word), are being accommodated in Hotels, and overseas crew are being hoteled during layovers - how long before hotels are full and passengers are sleeping in the terminals....or at the worst, a crew member is assaulted by angry passengers at a hotel and the all Cabin Crew walk out.

Many pax have been reaccommodated on other airlines, into and out of South Africa. The 2000 pax figure, being put up in hotels, I'm not sure of. Why haven't they been reaccommodated on other airlines - I can only speculate that flights into and out of the country must be pretty full already with their own normal loads?! Add SA pax and you may quickly get to 2000 pax.

I don't envisage hotels getting to overcapacity. At this very moment, both SAA management and the unions are in a meeting with the CCMA of South Africa, due to government intervention. Hopefully this entire saga will be a thing of the past, quite soon.

Quoting BBJII (Reply 35):
When the situation is finally resolved, how many passengers will be bumped off to make way for repositiong crew.

Difficult to say; but it most probably will not be without compensation.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:29 pm

Are there any news from yesterday's meetings in SA? Thanks for any update!

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:25 pm

No settlement has been reached, with SAA Management refusing to budge an inch.
Meanwhile the SAA pilots association has a meeting scheduled for Wednesday, to decide whether they will join the strike - mismanagement is one of their complaints. Rumours are doing the rounds that the technical division also wants to join the strike.

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:41 pm

QF has operated a few extra B744 services from PER to pick up stranded SAA pax.

No doubt QF will send SAA a bill.
 
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:46 pm

Sounds tough!

In situations like this you should really "budge an inch" to have something back, it's what negotiating is all about. But it takes middlemen to settle, I think at the end nobody wins.. SA7700, please give an update here when you know more, thanks again! I have new bookings for next Monday (ZRH-JNB-LUN)now, this still seems too optimistic?

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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:52 pm

Damn...my parents are supposed to fly into PER fron JNB on July 29. I hope QF can pick them up also.

How long do you guys in SA think this strike will go on? Can SAA recover from this or will they end up bankrupt? I hope not...I like SAA...it's one of my favorite airlines...too bad the upper management is so screwed up and can't get their heads out of their asses.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Jul 27, 2005 6:03 pm

Okay, we have some good news! An agreement in principle has been drafted, by the CCMA, to resolve the dispute. Both parties have now to decide whether they will actually accept the agreement and will reconvene on Thursday at 9am, after consulting with their principals. At least one of the unions, UASA, seems ready to sign the agreement. However, SAA Management and the other union SATAWU, still have to respond.

We will therefore only know tomorrow morning whether it is all systems go.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:34 am

It appears as if the strike is finally over and that the airline will be fully operational by Friday. Big grin

http://www.mweb.co.za/hubs/news/newsItem.aspx?id=top|2738567


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:43 am

Quoting Springbok747 (Reply 42):
How long do you guys in SA think this strike will go on? Can SAA recover from this or will they end up bankrupt? I hope not...I Like SAA...it's One of my favorite airlines...too bad the upper management is so screwed up and can't get their heads out of their asses.

SAA is not well managed....they lied and Acquired ATC with the agreement that the routes will expand and it will be more profitable. But it id not happen, ATC now has less flights and hasn't made a single cent in profit. Plus the routes it used to fly are now operated by SAA. I hope and pray that they get acquired or implement some much needed reforms. They should learn from KQ (the only fully private national carrier in Africa). Government subsidies do not work and I truly think its about time the government sells its shares and let the market dictates itself.
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:26 pm

Many lessons learnt costing a fortune!

Let's go for the privatization, I'd even recommend it to Finnair here although local strikes never usually go beyond the threats nor last longer than 2 days, lol.
 
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:36 am

any news on service restoration ? how are the load factors on SAA like after the strike?
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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:46 am

Apparently international are running at 100%, while domestic is at 95%. I read somewhere, don't quote me please, that the international load factor is ± 85%.


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RE: SAA Flights Grounded By Strike

Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:16 am

OK. Thanks for the info.
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