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BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:57 am

Rumour has it at Manchester that British Airways may be taking over the MAN to BOS route from AA this winter, as well as continuing with their MAN to JFK service. Anyone heard the same? What equipment would BA use on this route?
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:03 am

I've not heard anything relating to that. As far as I'm aware the AA MAN-BOS service doesn't even off a J cabin so I very much doubt it could fit in to the BA business model.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:24 am

Didn't BA used to operate an ETOPS 757 on this route? If so why did they kill it. Did One World have something to do with it?
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting Apodino (Reply 2):
Didn't BA used to operate an ETOPS 757 on this route?

No, but they did use them from BHX to North America.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:41 am

I would be really surprised if this was true, BA - called by some London Airways - has shown little interest in opening long haul routes out of airports other than LHR. If BOS-MAN can be a year round success, AA will run it as the 757 seems to be the right sized aircraft for the route.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:45 am

It's possible that AA will pull it at the end of the summer season, Like they did last year and use the slots for MAN-MIA for the winter, maybe reinstate it for next Summer?

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:53 am

Seats are on sale on BA and AA websites for the winter, via a direct MAN - BOS service. It also now has a BA codeshare number, which it didnt have last year.....
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:58 am

It's a code share between BA and MAN. If you ever look at arrivals on ceefax, the flight seems to originate in SFO, and the SFO-BOS leg is AA only.

Thought this had been mentioned recently, but BOS ends in early January, and re-starts in April. In the meantime, MIA returns.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:12 am

It might have been BHX. I know they used to run 757's on one route into BOS. Then again, it might have been Glasgow as well, after NW pulled out of the route.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:15 am

How can operating a MAN - MIA for 3 months make any business sense? Surely the idea is to build a customer base for new services such as MIA?
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 6:16 am

Not heard a thing about that at work,, and not had people asking either

Dont think we will see any more LH service from BA at MAN for a while
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:07 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 9):
How can operating a MAN - MIA for 3 months make any business sense? Surely the idea is to build a customer base for new services such as MIA?

From what I have heard, MIA-MAN, does not do so well outside of that 3 month window, where as BOS-MAN with the 757 has seen some pretty good results, along with that AA has said they are very pleased with the BOS-SNN daily non-stop service with the 757.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:01 am

I think one needs to look at the likely market for this kind of flight.

Although my personal preference (I am a citizen of the Commonwealth) would be for BA, I think AA is better suited to this route.

Reasoning: BA tends to need to focus on premium markets, due to its high cost operations. AA however, has a much lower cost base than BA, especially in the labour department.

I would suggest that a lot of the people who would use that flight are going to be ppl like myself.... young, not affluent enough yet to pay for our own business class tickets (thank you very much employer when they are occasionally provided!) and have interests in America. I bet quite a fair few will be students and academics, shuttling back and forward... (and hence they're in the "poor" research budget catagory...or the "what the hell let's just do it" type of low cost ultra budget trip)

The there will be the visiting friends and family, and the "quick shopping trip" across the pond passengers who have discovered what a Cool  cold  city boston really is.  champagne   hyper  I suspect there will be more tickets sold originating in the UK than America.

So. given that what this market really wants its a quick efficient budget trip, AA's business model is probably the best suited. I just hope they've upgraded the seats in there 757s to that of 767 and MD-80s etc.... for long haul flying those crappy old light blue ones just aren't good enough.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 5:49 pm

BA doesn;t seem too keen at improving their premium class on the MAN JFK route! The 767 they use on that route is in a shabby condition in my view. Friends that have used this route hav complained at the shabby state of the interior in both classes. Wonder if BA are ever going to refurb it, or is there something afoot that might se some BA 757s coming to MAN to operate both JFK and maybe oter US destinations...???
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:44 pm

Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 12):
So. given that what this market really wants its a quick efficient budget trip, AA's business model is probably the best suited

Absolutely. And, one of the problems with BA and MAN is that its cost base is too great. It's well suited to London, which as a world capital, attracts scores of business and otherwise very wealthy passengers.


Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 9):
How can operating a MAN - MIA for 3 months make any business sense? Surely the idea is to build a customer base for new services such as MIA?

I think a seasonal service IS building a customer base, albeit slowly. Do you remember when EK was a 3 a week service, via erm...somewhere else? Or when BA operated their L10s to JFK approx 4 or 5 times a week? It all happens slowly.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:18 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 4):
AA will run it as the 757 seems to be the right sized aircraft for the route.

I just flew on it (landed at MAN 5 hours ago). The B757 seemed almost but not totally full.

Quoting Apodino (Reply 2):
Didn't BA used to operate an ETOPS 757 on this route?

If I am not mistaken, BA used to operate GLA-JFK-BOS with a B757. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:33 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
Wonder if BA are ever going to refurb it, or is there something afoot that might se some BA 757s coming to MAN to operate both JFK and maybe oter US destinations...???

It will be refurbished soon, with a new Club World cabin and revamped economy.
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:54 am

According to another rumour site, GB are looking to get hold of an A330 to take over MAn JFK from BA.........!!

I this a totally new rumour for Manchester?!
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:15 am

AA envisage three daily flights out of MAN in the future so I see no reason why they would give up one to BA, especially not with the recent full loads on the 757. Of course, they might just not be telling me...

Quoting Shamrock_747 (Reply 1):
As far as I'm aware the AA MAN-BOS service doesn't even offer a J cabin

You're quite right. It is a single-class layout with a "Premium Economy" cabin up front. Same service, bigger seats. AA seats its AAdvantage ExecPlat and Plat passengers up there, and sells any spares for GBP100 a throw.

[Edited 2005-07-23 19:18:36]
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:21 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 17):
GB are looking to get hold of an A330 to take over MAn JFK from BA

RUMOUR only. GB do Euro flts only, and doubt very much we will see a A330 in BA colours for a long time.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:21 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 17):
According to another rumour site, GB are looking to get hold of an A330 to take over MAn JFK from BA.........!!

I this a totally new rumour for Manchester?!

You're hillarious!

Have your buddies heard the latest rumour about BA putting A380's on the MAN-LON shuttles?
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:37 am

Quoting SNATH (Reply 15):

If I am not mistaken, BA used to operate GLA-JFK-BOS with a B757. Someone could correct me if I'm wrong.

Tony

BA, during the 1990s, had two transatlantic flights with the 757s, GLA-JFK and BHX-JFK. The flights continued to BOS or YYZ (the schedules varied over the period). Both services were dropped after a few years and the BA 757s never again were scheduled accross the Atlantic......BA was one of the first airlines to use the 757 accross the Atlantic in scheduled service. It was during the same period that BA tried MAN-LAX nonstops with 763s.


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Its funny, this thread is about BA taking over the BOS-MAN route, but I think that the more likely scenario is AA taking over the JFK-MAN route from BA and if that route could be flown as a codeshare (I am not sure what the deal is with AA/BA on transatlantic flights, I know that codesharing on transatlantic flights into LHR is not possible, but what about MAN?). I have always thought that BA would only be too happy to be "relieved of its obligation" to fly the JFK-MAN route. BA is all about London these days, and it seems that BA maintains the JFK-MAN route only because (i) there is no legitimate business reason to drop it and (ii) BA would get huge amount of negative publicity from Uk governmental officials and MPs and the general public if it dropped its one remaining longhaul route out of MAN. If BA could hand the JFK-MAN route with a codeshare deal over to AA, it could possibily cease its longhaul ops from MAN gracefully.

[Edited 2005-07-23 19:37:46]
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:42 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
I think that the more likely scenario is AA taking over the JFK-MAN route from BA

It would be good from my point of view, but I can't see that one either. AA is already struggling to spare a 763 to restart its MAN-MIA service (one of the reasons MAN-BOS is continuing until January) so I don't think it could spare two to take over MAN-JFK also.
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:50 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Thread starter):
Rumour has it at Manchester that British Airways may be taking over the MAN to BOS route from AA this winter,



Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 17):
According to another rumour site, GB are looking to get hold of an A330 to take over MAn JFK from BA.........!!

What is this 'rumour site' you refer too?

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 9):
How can operating a MAN - MIA for 3 months make any business sense?

The route generates a lot of cruise traffic, which is sustainable for three months of the year, but as said above - it will build a market for the route slowly. As long as they don't do a BMI and lease in an Iran Air 747SP to operate it (or something equally as daft!)

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 4:55 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 23):
The route generates a lot of cruise traffic, which is sustainable for three months of the year, but as said above - it will build a market for the route slowly. As long as they don't do a BMI and lease in an Iran Air 747SP to operate it (or something equally as daft!)

If it was operated by an Iran air 747SP I'd fly it...
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:51 am

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 24):
If it was operated by an Iran air 747SP I'd fly it...

LOL - not one of my better analogies....

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:05 pm

Perhaps BMI are looking to expand their USA network from MAN.....  Wink  Wink
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:12 pm

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
(I am not sure what the deal is with AA/BA on transatlantic flights

the MAN and GLA transtlantic services are codeshared, however for some unknown reason the MAN-MIA service last winter wasn't - I believe that's being rectified.

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 26):
Perhaps BMI are looking to expand their USA network from MAN

but it wouldn't be LAX - more likely to be SFO. However, let's rule out any new long-haul routes from bmi from MAN in the short to medium term.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:12 pm

Quoting David_itl

However, let's rule out any new long-haul routes from bmi from MAN in the short to medium term.

I think that would be a mistake given what I heard at MAN today!
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:34 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 13):
The 767 they use on that route is in a shabby condition in my view. Friends that have used this route have complained at the shabby state of the interior in both classes.

When was this, as G-BNWH was out of service a few months back, for about 3/4 Weeks, and G-BNWU operated the route, from what I heard G-BNWH was refitted.
To be honest I don't see why the route isn't operated by a 772, this way maybe the aircraft could rotate in JFK, plus they could easily fill it I suppose, rather than the same 763 going back and to daily, like VS do at MCO with their 744's for MAN.

I heard a while back that the MAN-JFK route was going to AA. Obviously not. I doubt BA would use a 757 on the BOS route.

I regard to the flight carrying on through winter, maybe AA will have an extra slot, so they can carry on with the MIA route tool.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:58 am

Quoting Jetset7E7 (Reply 29):
When was this, as G-BNWH was out of service a few months back, for about 3/4 Weeks, and G-BNWU operated the route, from what I heard G-BNWH was refitted.

It wasn't refitted fully, WH is due to be the final 767 to be dusked at the end of this year,

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:48 am

Will BA use a 777 while it is being refurbished? Anyone know the dates of the refurb?
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:44 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 31):
Will BA use a 777 while it is being refurbished? Anyone know the dates of the refurb?

Unlikely, normally BNWO is subbed for NH. They will put a 767 in its place no doubt. All I know is that NH is the last of BAs 10 long haul 767s to be converted. I think 2 or 3 have been done now, at a rate of one a month.
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:55 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 21):
Its funny, this thread is about BA taking over the BOS-MAN route, but I think that the more likely scenario is AA taking over the JFK-MAN route from BA and if that route could be flown as a codeshare (I am not sure what the deal is with AA/BA on transatlantic flights, I know that codesharing on transatlantic flights into LHR is not possible, but what about MAN?). I have always thought that BA would only be too happy to be "relieved of its obligation" to fly the JFK-MAN route. BA is all about London these days, and it seems that BA maintains the JFK-MAN route only because (i) there is no legitimate business reason to drop it and (ii) BA would get huge amount of negative publicity from Uk governmental officials and MPs and the general public if it dropped its one remaining longhaul route out of MAN. If BA could hand the JFK-MAN route with a codeshare deal over to AA, it could possibily cease its longhaul ops from MAN gracefully.

I don't think this idea is so far-fetched. With the rumored AA focus on the 757 for trans-atlantic services, combined with a new business class product, this could be a good fit for all concerned, with BA concentrating more on the LHR long haul market. I can honestly see a big AA push at MAN in the upcoming years.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:37 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 28):
I think that would be a mistake given what I heard at MAN today!

What have you heard? Where do you hear it? How about some sources? Without sources this is all supposition and crap.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:46 am

Quoting David_itl (Reply 27):
the MAN and GLA transtlantic services are codeshared, however for some unknown reason the MAN-MIA service last winter wasn't - I believe that's being rectified.

Which was a big mistake, IMO. They are planning to put the BA code on the flight this year. That right there can be a nice boost to the route.
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:21 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 31):
Will BA use a 777 while it is being refurbished? Anyone know the dates of the refurb

given you seem to "know" that BA are thinking of taking over MAN-BOS and NZ are starting MAN-LAX I would have thought you'd know if BA are going to fly a 777 to MAN.

You joined 3 days ago and have started 2 ridiculous rumours
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:01 am

There's an IAD slot going begging now......  Wink
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:07 am

Not necessarily. bmi may fill the slots with regional/baby or mainline traffic.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:00 pm

Quoting ANstar (Reply 36):
given you seem to "know" that BA are thinking of taking over MAN-BOS and NZ are starting MAN-LAX I would have thought you'd know if BA are going to fly a 777 to MAN.

You joined 3 days ago and have started 2 ridiculous rumours

Not to mention GB Airways taking over the MAN-JFK route with an A330.
Seems to me Mister Rugbybloke is a farce. Not once has he acknowledged peoples requests for sources, nor tried to defend or justify himself.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:14 pm

BA did not want to codeshare on the MAN-MIA as they wanted to route connecting traffic over LHR.

I do expect a BA code on the new NCL flight though.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:44 pm

Quoting ANstar (Reply 36):
You joined 3 days ago and have started 2 ridiculous rumours

I was thinkin the same thing

From all these rumours, we have not seen any proof of what is goin on.

We have heard nothing about new BA routes from MAN for longhaul. We will not give up the MAN JFK to AA as its the best service we have at MAN, hence its still going. Everyone knows its getting done up soon.

The 777's are based in London, and we get them here RARELY. First time i have heard of one here was the one i mentioned a few weeks ago.

When you post a new topic with a rumour, can you pls post where you got it so we can look ourselves as well
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:45 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 39):
Not once has he acknowledged peoples requests for sources

I can give you sources for most of what's been posted regarding "MAN developments" recently, Air NZ, BA to BOS, GB A330 - the lot;
PPRuNE: Manchester Happenings

You'll have to work backwards a couple of pages, but at 1021 replies I've linked the end of the thread, not the beginning!

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:21 am

Quoting Billy (Reply 40):
BA did not want to codeshare on the MAN-MIA as they wanted to route connecting traffic over LHR.

Does that imply that there are at least some premium pax that BA are interested in from the MAN catchment area and want the revenue to themselves only? Mind you, BA would look rather silly if they try to get back to codesharing transatlantic London routes with AA as the regulators could point the anomaly of having the rights to codeshare regional transatlantic but not utilising them fully.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:33 pm

BA takes a view on codeshares on a route-by-route basis. Policy on MIA was to route the traffic over LHR. This applies more to European connections than the UK. BA codeshared on the BOS-MAN and routed a ton of low-yield BRU and AMS pax through MAN. AA had to turn that tap off. Of course BA cannot do the AMS connection anymore

Note that the BA/AA codesharing is very restricted by the regulaors. There is no ATI, and no transferable FFP benefits between the carriers on the transatlantic leg. Therefore it is not in a travellers interest to fly AA MAN_MIA if the pax is a BA gold as he would accrue no points, miles or status.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 9:38 pm

Lets get one thing straight, BA would not operate any routes of their own unless there was sufficient PREMIUM traffic or else BA is not interested. Secondly, if the route was popular enough, BA would have already taken up the route. BA already routes to MIA and BOS from LHR only a Multiple daily basis , flown by 744, Why would BA let their heathrow passengers who come up from MAN to fly from LHR go to MAN.SURE it would be easier from the passengers point of view BUT.

LHR is BA's main operation base , the last thing they need is to be diverting passengers and planes away from their main operation base. This means that for maintenance, they would have to fly the 767 ( BA would almost NEVER give up a LHR or LGW based 777 to go to MAN ,and NEVER give up a 744, trust me on that) back up to LHR , find a replacement aircraft for the maintenance time from their already streached 767 long-haul route. Most of view may have seen the state the MAN-JFK 767 is in , it's dirty and the interior is shabby, and it's the last one to be given the new interior ( Club World , WT+ and WT , NO FIRST CLASS). BECAUSE IT'S NO AT THEIR MAIN BASE.

Because their is no FIRST class product on the 767, passengers who want to fly in FIRST , still won't go to MAN anyway and most passenger would rather travel on a 744 ANYDAY.

Thirdly- If the flight is canceled due to a technical fault and it needs to have hanger work , there won't be any service for days maybe Weeks, causing a head ache for BA and passengers who either have to go to LHR, go on another airline or wait until the aircraft returns.

Fourthly- With Multiple daily service from heathrow, passenger who's flight is canceled going from LHR can either catch the next flight,as opposed to having to wait until the next day or being transferred to another flight and then getting a free internal flight ,as opposed to having to have to drive up to heathrow to go to another destination other than JFK or MIA ( say you were flying to BOS ).

And finally- BA can sell more seats on a full 744 than I think it's 1.5/2 full 767's and BA operate 3 times a day to BOS and twice daily to MIA from LHR, so it would take, there for BA would have to operate say 6 FULL 767 to BOS and 4 FULL 767 to MIA daily, BA don't have enough 767's to operate that. And as I said , BA won't transfer any other aircraft types , they stay at LHR or LGW and the 757 isn't really a possibility.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:03 pm

Quoting Crosswind (Reply 42):
I can give you sources for most of what's been posted regarding "MAN developments" recently, Air NZ, BA to BOS, GB A330 - the lot;
PPRuNE: Manchester Happenings

Things on PPRuNE are not all fact. The Ru in the acronym stands for rumor. The guy who started the Manchester happenings thread is not a pilot/flight crew just an enthusiast. Some of the same rumors were posted on the Northwest-spotters Yahoo group, and none have been confirmed as fact by people in the know.
 
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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:49 pm

BigOrange,
Don't worry. My tongue was firmly in my cheek when I posted that!

Just wanted to make sure people knew the source was PPRuNE rather than actual first-hand info.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:50 pm

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 45):
BECAUSE IT'S NO AT THEIR MAIN BASE.

It feels like we're being barked at! Most people on here understand perfectly the intricacies of BA/Yield management/LHR and MAN.


Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 45):
Most of view may have seen the state the MAN-JFK 767 is in , it's dirty and the interior is shabby

This is perhaps the main crux of the argument re MAN; apparently the route's a very profitable one, and so it would seem good business sense to nurture it a little more. Not for any sentimental reasons, you understand. It's an essential link for the economy of the north of England.


Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 45):
there won't be any service for days maybe Weeks

As far as I know, when the 767 goes tech, it is replaced by something else from LON. Somebody else might be able to confirm this.

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 45):
Because their is no FIRST class product on the 767, passengers who want to fly in FIRST , still won't go to MAN anyway and most passenger would rather travel on a 744 ANYDAY.

99.9% of pasengers couldn't care less that they're travelling on a 763 as opposed to a 747. The majority of these haven't got a clue what they're travelling on, and very little interest. It's only the tiny majority of people with our interests who'd know.

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RE: BA To Take On MAN-BOS?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:07 pm

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 48):
99.9% of pasengers couldn't care less that they're travelling on a 763 as opposed to a 747. The majority of these haven't got a clue what they're travelling on, and very little interest.

Actually, frequent business travellers are often quite savvy as to which aircraft they're flying on. Many have a preference and the very frequent travellers have probably flown on every different type BA fly and would definitely notice a difference between a 747 and 767.

Otherwise, I really don't see BA taking this route over from AA. It's just better suited for American.

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