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Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:02 am

I would guess this is a big no-no. My flight yesterday, the seatbelt sign was not turned on until after passing through 10,000 feet. The pilot flashed the no smoking sign twice to let us know we were past 10,000 feet, then the seatbelt sign came on a little while later. Could an airline be fined for this? What if any consequences are there? I would think this is an item on the pre-pushback checklist. Makes me worried if a pilot is not following a checklist. I wouldn't want them to skip another, more important item on the checklist.
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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:08 am

What kind of aircraft was it? On some of the modern aircraft, I thought that it was automatic for the seatbelt signs to be on?
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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:11 am

The Aircraft was a CRJ-700.
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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Cli

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:40 am

I hope you took advantage of this to stroll leisurely up and down the aisle chatting to other passengers during the takeoff roll...help yourself to some snacks as well

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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:41 am

Quoting N229NW (Reply 3):
I hope you took advantage of this to stroll leisurely around the aisles chatting to other passengers during the takeoff roll...

It would be interesting to see, but it would still be illegal to not follow crewmember instructions when he/she says, "Sir, sit down!"
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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:45 am

The pilots obviously thought they were switched on and meant to turn them off, actually finally turning them on during flight. Interesting to see the outcome of this for the airline, if reported,

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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:28 am

I forgot to turn my landing lights on the other day. But at least we remembered the gear. I'm still new at flying pax in a/c with seat belt signs and I don't want to forget that, so I just leave it on. So they forgot the seatbelt sign, so what. You still arrived safely, and the flight atttendents did a walk through.
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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:34 am

This happens from time to time. I've witnessed it on several major airlines as well as a few regional jets. Most airlines signal the 10,000 feet (sterile cockpit etc.) to the FA's by using two bells. This is accomplished on most aircraft by switching the no-smoking sign off then back to on. At that time, most pilots then realize that they didn't even turn on the seatbelt sign prior to pushback and try to mask the chime by simultaneously switching the seatbelt sign to "on" when the no smoking sign is brought back to on during the 10,000 foot signal. I have to admit I've done this once when I was a CA on the Brasilia years ago. We did accomplish the required checklists however I answered "on" to the FO's challenge of "Seatbelt sign" during the before start checklist without looking at the switch position. I called back to the FA and she didn't even notice and said none of the pax did either.

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RE: Seatbelt Sign Off During Taxi, Takeoff And Climb.

Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:39 pm

Quoting IAHERJ (Reply 7):
I answered "on" to the FO's challenge of "Seatbelt sign" during the before start checklist without looking at the switch position.

So, how many checklisted items are given an affirmative response without checking if is actually ready for flight? This statement is somewhat frightening.  Sad

Based on the safety of our air carriers, I'm guessing this doesn't happen very often at all, and that all items are actually checked during the various checklists. I know it's somewhat sensationalistic, but can you imagine if someone had been up and around shortly after take-off with some good chop going on and they end up pinned against the ceiling, all the while the seatbelt sign was never on? I'm guessing someone would at least get a stern talking to  Smile
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