duke
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Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:13 pm

Three more questions about what I saw at LHR:

1) is the Concorde I saw there G-BOAB and is it the only one there?

2) is the green fire trainer near it just a model or was it made by actually putting together a (apparenly) 747 front and a DC-10 back (and if so, what exact aircraft)?

3) What was the registration of the VARIG MD-11 I saw there on 15 August?
 
B742
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RE: Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:16 pm

1 - Yep, its just sitting on the runway doing nothing  Sad

2 - Most likey

3 - The RG MD-11 was PP-VQJ

Rob!  Smile
 
HT
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RE: Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:34 pm

@ #2: Most firetrainers (i.e. structures that are set on fire externally in order to train the fire brigade on how to extinguish it) are custom made of steel. Usually they are all-steel structures (i.e. no rubber, plastic or similar) having the full height of an aircraft but a much shorter fuselage. Fire is either produced by gas or by flammable liquids. Gas has the advantage that one can ingite it once again after it was extinguished (making life for the firefighters a bit more difficult and interesting).

On the contrary, actual airframes are often used for evacuation training (and I don´t mean those certification tests but ongoing training of any personnell). Stuttgart (STR) has an disused Tu-154 for this purpose. Just search A.net´s database for "D-AFSG" as registration; there are 11 pic´s.

For firefighting training inside an aircraft, the fire brigade at FRA has a portable, customized standard-container (whats the designation of those ? 30ft ?) with gas-hook-ups. This one can make the interior really hot !
It is also used by other airports; they just put it (including crew) onto a truck and transport it around (not too long ago it was in HAJ ).
-HT
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RE: Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:42 pm

Duke

The firetrainer is custom made.

If you look at other "green machines" there are a mix of aircraft that use the customer airport.

For example: LCY/EGLC is a 146 fuselage, with an over wing one side and 146 type engine mounting with a low wing turboprop on the otherside - like that os Saab or ATR. The emergency exits are the same as the intended aircraft type.
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CHRISBA777ER
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RE: Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:43 pm

Containers -

20 foot = TEU (Twenty foot Equiv Unit)
40 foot = FEU (Forty foot Equiv Unit)
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PanHAM
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RE: Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:58 pm

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 4):
Containers -

20 foot = TEU (Twenty foot Equiv Unit)
40 foot = FEU (Forty foot Equiv Unit)

a 40' Container is 2 TEU , the number of containers handled in a port are quoted in TEU's only.

Quoting HT (Reply 2):
@ #2: .

For firefighting training inside an aircraft, the fire brigade at FRA has a portable, customized standard-container (whats the designation of those ? 30ft ?) with gas-hook-ups. This one can make the interior really hot !
It is also used by other airports; they just put it (including crew) onto a truck and transport it around (not too long ago it was in HAJ ).
-HT

Don't forget that nice plane they build in Frankfurt and which can be seen at the Airbase/Cargo City South exit on the A5 near the Airbridge Memorial.
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HT
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RE: Three More LHR Questions

Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:00 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
Don't forget that nice plane they build in Frankfurt and which can be seen at the Airbase/Cargo City South exit on the A5 near the Airbridge Memorial.

I remember ! With binoculars it can be seen also from T2 (the glass front at McDonalds).
-HT
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