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Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:25 am

I realize the 732's are safe, but, why do I get nervous everytime I fly on one!?? I flight a lot, and flying does not bother me in the slightest, but, something with the 732's freak me out.. Maybe it's the noise, maybe it's the age, maybe it's all the patch jobs all over them!! It's gerneally the WestJet 732's that bother me.. Anyone else have a certain plane they don't like being on?
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:36 am

Any of the third world carriers whose "new" planes are the ones that are too old for any normal airline. I worked in the Philippines for a while and got to experience some of these. Cebu Pacific's DC-9s come to mind and Air Philippine's 732s come to mind as well. Some of Cebu Pacific's DC-9s were almost 40 years old. Knowing the way they can cut corners sometimes with things, too, it was concerning. I always tried to stay on the flag carrier, Philippine Airlines, but sometimes I ended up on these "discount" airlines.
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:39 am

B732 is a Fantastic Aircraft.Apart from the Noise.Trust Me I've worked on them.
About new carrier using older Aircraft Type.In the Early 90s,Many Pvt carriers out here used leased B732s.However nowadays the LCCs are going in for B737NGs & A320s as they find Mx costs to be lower.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:41 am

It has NOTHING to do with the aircraft. It has EVERYTHING to do with the maintenance and the pilots driving the aircraft.

Depending upon where you are in the world, that is an open question.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:43 am

I will be honest when I found out I had booked myself on a DL Express 732 I was worried, and was fretting over nothing. Then I realized I cosnidered it an honor to fly a 732 in this day and age. But I was still nervous and amazed those little engines could pick me up and fly me so far. But I survived and ended up flying DL Express one more time before they cancelled it.

the route im reffering to was BNA-MCO (2x's)

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:43 am

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 3):
It has NOTHING to do with the aircraft. It has EVERYTHING to do with the maintenance and the pilots driving the aircraft.

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Well said.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:22 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
I will be honest when I found out I had booked myself on a DL Express 732 I was worried, and was fretting over nothing. Then I realized I cosnidered it an honor to fly a 732 in this day and age. But I was still nervous and amazed those little engines could pick me up and fly me so far. But I survived and ended up flying DL Express one more time before they cancelled it.

Those teeny little engines are sooooooo deceptive ... all of today's high bypass engines have those HUUUUUGE intakes on the front, you just don't think those little engines can anything ...

Until you're pinned back into your seat on takeoff, that is ...

And what a noise, at that ... always fun to be #2 behind one of those things or a NW DC9, and hear that roar ...

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:00 am

Yeah, I agree they are fun, and I love the pushed in the seat feeling on the 732's! You actually FEEL like you're flying.. Still not happy when I look at all the old panels worn out, patches all over the plane  Smile Once i'm up and cruising, I realize how lucky I am to be in a 732 before they are all gone, and i'm totally going to miss that roar, but, I still prefer flying on the NG's Big grin Plus, I know WestJet is a safe airline, but, still something I need to get over..

On the other side, I often try and book AC Jazz Dash-8's cuz I just love flying in them.. Even though, they are old and noisy, and totally uncomfortable, plus take extra time to get to the destination, they are still fun. I recently booked a trip from YEG-YYC-YLW just to go on a dash from YEG to YYC Big grin
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:07 am

I took ARs 732s all over Argentina and to Uruguay from AEP. I was a bit nervous on the first flight, simply because i'd never been on AR, and because the 732s are so old....but then i was suprised by how well they are holding up, and realized how cool it was that the plane was so old yet in great shape overall. I stopped being nervous and enjoyed the rest of my 4 flights with AR. I flew an Olympic airways 732 ATH-RHO....whoo... that was kinda scary. the thing was SOOO old and rickety. AR definitley kept their planes in much better shape. I was really impressed with AR overall. I did want to take a flight on an MD-80, but I wasnt ever scheduled on one.... oh well! Next time!

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:13 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
I will be honest when I found out I had booked myself on a DL Express 732 I was worried, and was fretting over nothing. Then I realized I cosnidered it an honor to fly a 732 in this day and age. But I was still nervous and amazed those little engines could pick me up and fly me so far. But I survived and ended up flying DL Express one more time before they cancelled it.

I used to commute to BOS from MCO on DLX.. and I agree with the original poster.. flying on those rust buckets used to (actually still does) freak me out. I could never place my finger on it.

Oh.. wait.. I remember why.. it was the DLX announcements I heard weekly in Boston for reasons they'd delayed/cancelled flights... My favorite was an inbound aircraft from RSW where they told us that the aircraft didn't pressurize properly on the flight up. Between that and getting stuck in some of the worst cattle car conditions I can remember. For what it's worth, getting Medallion status on DL from flying DLX flights should come with bragging rights  Smile I finally got my boss to understand that I didn't mind taking a couple of extra hours getting there if it meant I could connect on mainline.
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:18 am

DC-9/MD-80's. I know this has nothing to do with safety, but I cannot stand the fact that some of their flight control surfaces are free-floating when not in the air (see picture).


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Thu Jul 28, 2005 6:32 am

Mine was when I last flew HP (America West), about 3 or 4 years ago. Their ancient 732's were in horrible shape. Utter pieces of crap. SLC-PHX-ELP and back.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:21 am

Actually, WestJet's 732's are in pretty good shape, but, i'm still freaked Big grin


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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:08 am

Quoting Slashd0t (Reply 12):
WestJet's 732's are in pretty good shape

That 732 is nice and shiny.

I actually look forward to flying ol’ trusty 732s, which is becoming increasingly rare. Its MD-80s I get an eerie felling on for some reason. I’m all right with ATRs – even 10 years ago when they were a dirty word and COEX had a fleet of ‘em. Only MD-80s and only every now and then.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:13 am

I am on vacation in FLA....took a DL 732 YYZ to ATL found it clean confortable and well maintained...as for the noise, well take a ride in a 30 year old car and tell me how much louder it is. Just a sign of the era it was built.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:16 am

Roll on November. I won't be sorry to see the last of them at Ryanair. . .

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:29 am

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
But I was still nervous and amazed those little engines could pick me up and fly me so far.

Have you ever seen an A343 flamed  silly 

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 15):
Roll on November. I won't be sorry to see the last of them at Ryanair. . .

is it November now. That will be November 08 for them then, the way MOL is keeping them on,

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:43 am

There is a very dedicated following for the 732. WN had a big cewremony when they retired their original 732, and America West allowed staff to sign their last 732 to fly.

Am I right that most of the patch jobs you see on 737s (not just the 732) as pictured in Reply #15 are in response to the Aloha Air flight where part of the fuselage peeled off like a sardine can mid-flight?

Seeing those extra rivets on an older plance actually makes me feel safer!
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:20 am

I don't like flying -200s, they definitely freak me out. In the last few years, the only airline I've flown the 732 is Ryanair, other airlines I fly such as BA, LH, UA, all got rid of theirs 5 or 10 years ago. The 732 was great back then, but in 2005 it seems unnecessarily hazardous, at least judging by the Ryanair planes. They have actually changed shape - the lower fuselage beneath the wing, in fact everything aft of the wing, is rippled and slightly distorted. This is not an A320. Full credit to Boeing for building such a tough plane but that's where the good news ends - disintergrating rubber door seals, wall panels coming loose, and everything - everything - rattles and vibrates. I don't need to revisit the glory days of the 70s and 80s when the 737 Classic ruled the sky by going through this terrifying ordeal. I'm sure a -200 could be kept flying indefinitely, for centuries, with sufficient maintenence and there will be 737s in service in the year 2100 assuming we don't all kill each other or run out of oil of course (there are loads of 60 year old DC3s still flying today as working planes). But Ryanair, and, presumably most other airlines still flying the -200 really abuse them, and intend to be the last owners of the type so there's no view to maintaining a resale value, just trash them for a few years in backbreaking service, then chop them up for scrap (Westjet seem to defy the stereotype). Most of Ryanair's -200s are ex Lufthansa, built in 1979 and 1980, which makes them older than most of the people I know.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:37 am

I must agree that the passenger experience on a 732, even when new, bothered me too. I wondered if it was the short fuselage or the wing design that made it feel a little less stable in active air. Both the 727 and the DC9 felt a little less skittish. I really don't know, just hazarding a guess. The later and longer 737s had a different ride.I wonder if longer planes have better ride characteristics...
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:44 am

Quoting A340600 (Reply 16):
is it November now. That will be November 08 for them then, the way MOL is keeping them on,

They have been sold to Autodirect Aviation and the last one is due to leave the fleet at the end of the year. This is obviously happeing as they are using fewer and fewer of them out of Dublin.

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 19):
and everything - everything - rattles and vibrates.

They remind me of U2: plenty of Rattle and Hum. For anyone nervous of flying they must me a nightmare.
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:11 pm

I know exactly what you mean. It is the same feeling I get when I board a A320!
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:40 pm

I'm not a person that knows too much about thechnical aspects of aircrafts, but we have a fair amount of 732's in Argentina. In fact, most of the AR fleet is made of 732's (although it is now in the process of upgrading to 735's) and I'm not bothered to fly them at all. If I'm correct, AR has not had a single 732 involved in an accident, and the only Argentine 732 involved in one was a LAPA flight (LV-WRZ) in 1999, and there the crew ignored takeoff warnings.

just my .02!

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:53 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 15):
Roll on November. I won't be sorry to see the last of them at Ryanair. . .

What's wrong with that plane? She's just finally looking like she's broke in. Big grin

Quoting EADC8 (Reply 17):
The Little Engine That Could:

How in the heck is that chick still standing??????

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:05 pm

Quoting Crownvic (Reply 22):
I know exactly what you mean. It is the same feeling I get when I board a A320!

Crownvic, I was gonna post the same thing.

Give me a 727, 732, or DC9 anyday over the A-bus...
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:29 pm

I think what bothers me the most is the age. I remember one time flying from DFW to BTR in one of them... it was really windy while landing so the speed was too fast for my comfort. All I kept thinking was how old this plane might be and wondered if wings could still stand that type of high winds... silly thought, I know. But after reciting countless 'Hail Marys' in my head we landed safely... although a very rough landing.

On this same flight, an older lady in her 70s or so decided that she needed to use the restroom while we were on final approach. She was confronted by flight attendants who told her it was against regulations to use the restroom at that point and it was too late (not to mention pricey) for the aircraft to abort the landing. Well, the lady said she would go on the aisle if not the restroom. So finally she was allowed to use the aft lavatory. I'm not sure how she could have done her necessities comfortably while the aircraft was bouncing around the way it was. So as soon we touched down we heard this scream from the aft lavatory... followed by an 'I'm Okay'. Most of us on the rear of the plane couldn't help but laugh.... it kind of helped break the tension from the rough landing... bless her heart.
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:07 pm

It's MD80's that make me nervous too. I was on a Delta one from EWR-ATL last week and had the exit row 25a and there were all these funny noises coming from the door, the slats were really loud and the brakes screeched on the ground. This being said it was a very clean , well maintained aircraft. BTW, has anyone noticed how Delta service is increasing as of late?

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:41 pm

I fly twice a week on a 732. Always a delta bird too. They have some age on them for sure, but they are maintained well and have great pilots.
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:56 pm

I flew 5 domestic legs on LAN Chile late last year; I have to say I was gutted when the scheduled A320 from Puerto Montt to Punta Arenas was substituted with a B732!

Once we were in the air, and I'd had a chance to think about it, I realised I was actually thrilled to be on such an old bird, in a few years time they'll be like 727's and we'll be happy to get a flight on one.

I think the only thing I don't like about them is their looks; don't like the way the engines are on such short pylons, almost part of the wing - I like to see the engines hanging with a 'pointy bit' out the back - looks much more cool!  conehead 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:01 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 2):
Apart from the Noise.

That's the whole thing that makes them great (ditto Tu-134s). When you hear a 732 at the airport you get a idea of what civil aviation was like in the early 70's - LOUD and DIRTY!  bouncy 

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The 732 was great back then, but in 2005 it seems unnecessarily hazardous, at least judging by the Ryanair planes.

Because lots of them have crashed? What do you mean?  scratchchin 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:09 pm

The -200 series is my favourite aircraft, I will be sad to see it leave the ryanair fleet. The engine roar, the reverse trusters, I can't get enough of it.

I agree with BAW716 comment - "It has NOTHING to do with the aircraft. It has EVERYTHING to do with the maintenance and the pilots driving the aircraft."

The first plane I was ever on was a Manx Airlines BAe-146, I was a nervous wreck after it. I have enjoyed every flight I have had on a -200.
I can understand how people can become anxious when boarding a plane and seeing lots of bolts and patches, it doesn't help, but remember that all aircraft maintainence must adhere to a specific standard, and any airline/ Management team that cuts corners would open themselves to massive lawsuits!! am I right !!!
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:12 pm

it depends on the aircraft maintenance - not the age is relevant. If age was an issue NW would not be allowed to fly again (keeping Douglas' glory aloft).

I once told myself: give me a 737-300 over a 737NG or a A32X anytime, however then I flew Aero Continente and I experienced fear not to see ground again in my life - I changed the following flght to LAN Peru, to a heavenly A320 - in relation to N6. (and FR's 737-200 were just a shame in the inside - sticky, smelly, just like a Greyhound bus lafter bringing some hairy people from Woodstock to Frisco).

If you want to experience great 737-200s go to Chile - at least LA's 737-200s are as comfortable as their new A319s and A320s.

Keep the roarers in the sky,

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:47 pm

The first time, and possibly the only time I have ever been on a 732, was a good experience. It was WN, dont remember where from, possibly IND-MDW, it was a while ago so I dont remember exactly. Hell, at that time I was working on 722s so it didnt bother me at all. What freaked me out was landing. Mind you, this is my first time on it and Im sitting right behind the wing. When they kicked in the reverse thrust, it looked like the engine was coming apart. Now I think its funny but at the time.........
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:06 pm

MD80s? Funny that those have a reputation for fear in this particular thread. I know some of them are pretty old, but atleast with AA's fleet, many are fairly new. I'm a real aviatoin buff, AND somewhat of a nervous flier, which is a rather strange combination. But I'm never afraid of flying the MDs. I think part of it is the fact that i fly alot for leasure, and thus have ample time to select my seat, and I usually sit in the front of economy class. On an MD80, that means an absolutely silent ride, where none of the funky whirring, clunking, and worrisome engine noises are audible. We did a go-around recently into ORD, and there was something completely unfrightening about that silent but huge shove of power that made an otherwise spooky experience quite comfortable.

Now, normally, I fly CO 737s, and on the rare occasion that I get a 300...I experience the same irrational worry that many on this thread have expressed. The last time (yesterday) for example, I had a nice view in 14A of the wing and engine, which seemed to be a horrific patchwork of bent, wrinkled, and otherwise scary looking metal.

Ofcourse, these ariliners are well cared for, but we had some NASTY turbulence out of MEX, and then into IAH, and at some point, I did wish i was on on one of the nice 800s that CO flies everywhere else. Why? no good reason, at all, which I guess sums up the whole thread.

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 7:33 pm

Quoting Slashd0t (Thread starter):

Relax, it will be ok. Look at the bright side. At least a Boeing Airframe is designed to last past 10 years.  Smile
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:21 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 15):
I won't be sorry to see the last of them at Ryanair. . .

I disagree: the 732 has great character and is fun to fly. OK, so the 738 is more modern and arguably more comfortable, but it loses out completely on character and uniqueness.
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:44 pm

Yes, they are noisy. But, in which other plane can you see this?


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Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:18 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 15):
Roll on November. I won't be sorry to see the last of them at Ryanair

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Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:25 pm

Quoting Slashd0t (Thread starter):
why do I get nervous everytime I fly on one!??

Could it be the little lines of oil that keeps running along the engines?  Smile  Smile
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:31 pm

No matter how it looks nowday, how old they are, and how it sounds... The Baby Boeing will always top of all. It is already a top legend after DC-3.

As far as I know they also able to land on rough runway or grass/gravel runway. Any jets can challenge that? Even though I seen Il-62 land on grass but not with passengers.

Their take-off are like rockets. I dont see any modern jets do that.

If 737-200 can speak, boy, they definitely have a lot of adventure stories.

If FAA were very flexible, they would have allow them to use them as dustcropper. Boy, it's going to be fun watch them swirl up and down, flying over crop field real low!
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:51 pm

Maybe this Link would calm you down.  Smile
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Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:09 pm

I don't like them either. I think it's the small engines.
 
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:13 am

My most memorable 737-200 flight was in February 1986 on a Fontier Airlines lines 737-295Adv, N7355F taking off out of Rockford going over to Chicago O'Hare Airport.
Altho I think the near freezing temps had something to do with it and a lite passenger load, when we took off we used about 1/3rd of a then 8000 foot runway and our climbout was so steep I almost blacked out...I looked out the window at that point and I just saw the ground getting smaller and smaller very quickly. It felt like we were being launched into orbit!!!!!
Back before the 737-300 series....I believe the 737-200 with its awesome thrust to weight ratio it had one of the quickest climb rates other than the Concorde. It was well over 3,000 feet per minute.
Boeing engineers are to be congratulated for their design with the 737. Whenever I get the chance I go for a 737-200. I have also flown on the 100. The one series 130 I flew on had originally been delivered to Lufthansa prolly in about 1967 0r 68, just two years after I was born, it was D-ABEH, 10th 737 off the production line. It became N402PE with PeoplExpress and when I flew on it, it was with Continental as N33202. I was everso thrilled to get on this little puppy. My only regret being that I didn't make more of an effort to get on more when I had the chance.
Of airlines flying 737-200s I have flown on Frontier#1, United, Midway#1, America West, Continental and Delta.
I have flown on many DC9-10s and 30s with similar vintage and get thrilled with each one.
The oldest jet liners I flew on were two United 727-022s back in 1990 ORD-IAD the IAD-MCO, both vintage 1964. I was thrilled to get one them both and wouldnt hesitiate to get on one again.
Everything however, has to do with maintenance performed on these planes. As long as they are properly maintained, Id fly on them...
I think you are worrying for absolutely nothing!!!
Myself, I chew my fingernails down to the nubs whenever I am unfortunate enuff to get myself booked on an Airbus...Eeeyish....

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RE: Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:31 am

i share your mixed feelings on 732..Westjet is not using any 737NGs so far..so why don't u fly with a state of the art modern Air Can Airbus A320 family.Frankly its a very gentle airplane.
 
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RE: Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:50 am

I'd have to say that flying an ATR-72 is a pretty un-nerving experience for a couple of reasons:

1. if you don't have a full flight, they will ask passengers to move around to better balance the plane. this was scary to me, not because i didn't think the pilots knew what they were doing, but because i didn't have faith in the accuracy of the system that checks for balance. do you really want to be in a plane that might be unsafe if people move around the cabin too much?

and 2. the incredible vibrations that come from the turbo-props feel like they will tear the fuselage apart!
 
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RE: Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 12:59 am

Pehaps you get un-nerved by the 737 200 because when it reaches full spead it starts to vibrate and also the engines are LOUD !!

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RE: Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:06 am

I just flew TPA-ATL two days ago on DL and was kinda dissapointed when I knew it was a -200. But I was pleasantly surprised when I boarded. They are in impeccable condition. The one thing I did notice is that the autopilot seemed a bit rough at times...not quite as smooth as more modern digital flight control systems. Whenever they used the speedbrakes in flight the plane seemed to jolt a bit more than usually. But other than that, the flight was incredibly smooth and I had a nice comfy seat in the emergency exit row. I would fly on one again without a second thought. The thrust reversers are incredibly loud after landing too. The flight left TPA at 0530 so most ppl were asleep, but when we touched down and the T/R's were deployed everyone knew we had arrived.
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RE: Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:14 am

Quoting Tockeyhockey (Reply 45):
if you don't have a full flight, they will ask passengers to move around to better balance the plane. this was scary to me, not because i didn't think the pilots knew what they were doing, but because i didn't have faith in the accuracy of the system that checks for balance. do you really want to be in a plane that might be unsafe if people move around the cabin too much?

This happened to me once as well, but on F-100 Montenegro Airlines. I was on the TGD-ZRH flight and it must have been 30% full, so they seated everyone on the front
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RE: Why Does The 737-200 Bother Me So Much!

Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:15 am

I recently flew MAN-DUB on a Ryanair 200. I was filled with a mixture of excitement and fear as I knew that it was going to be an old plane. Whilst on the flight I was aware of every little sound that didn't quite seem right(most of them probably in my head). The approach to DUB was the very steep which also made me worry a bit.

Having said all that I got there and back in one piece and I am glad to have had a go on a 200 before they are retired.