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Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:25 am

I've found this on Aviatsiya.Ru



It's looks really nice - also from inside... click
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:30 am

Looks great! Its a pity that this bird will mostly fly for Castro instead of on Cubana routes like to Madrid or Paris.

I still have hopes that Cubana will order some A330s or A320s.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:03 am

Why won't it be flying Cubana routes?
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:06 am

Nice machine.Nice livery.
As AlitaliaMD11 mentionned , sad they will not fly to MAD and ORY.
Does Fidel need really this plane , as it seems he doesn't travel a lot anymore.
He already has one ATR42 for himself.
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:11 am

Quoting FCKC (Reply 3):
Does Fidel need really this plane , as it seems he doesn't travel a lot anymore.
He already has one ATR42 for himself.

when is the damm guy going to die.

This is just more proof of what his version of communism is, equality for everybody, except me. why doesnt he get on one of those old AN24s that dond even have air conditining and start spending what little money hes got left on fixing his countries energy problem, many people dont know, but in cuba electricity is at a reliability rate of about 25%, people have broken TV sets, what little entertainment they had left is gone, and he goes on and spends million of dollars on private airplanes, DISGUSTING.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:15 am

The link in the first post says it's the FIRST IL96 for Cubana. I think one should be enough for Fidel, so maybe we see the next ones in Europe some day? How many do they have on order?
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:22 am

I think two, one for Fidel and one for their longhaul routes to replace the Air Atlanta B747-400, at least this is what I remember.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:55 am

Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
when is the damm guy going to die.

Not soon enough!
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:31 am

Three apparently, one with a convertable interior that can be used for government flights.
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:07 pm

Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
This is just more proof of what his version of communism is, equality for everybody, except me. why doesnt he get on one of those old AN24s that dond even have air conditining and start spending what little money hes got left on fixing his countries energy problem, many people dont know, but in cuba electricity is at a reliability rate of about 25%, people have broken TV sets, what little entertainment they had left is gone, and he goes on and spends million of dollars on private airplanes, DISGUSTING.

Very true, except for that bit "what little money hes got left" . Although nobody knows for sure how much his fortune in those Swiss bank accounts is, the bastard is thought to be one of the top 10 richest, as reported in a newspaper article I read a few years ago.


Nice plane though, now that's a sexy eurowhite!
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:46 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 9):
Quoting Luisca (Reply 4):
This is just more proof of what his version of communism is, equality for everybody, except me. why doesnt he get on one of those old AN24s that dond even have air conditining and start spending what little money hes got left on fixing his countries energy problem, many people dont know, but in cuba electricity is at a reliability rate of about 25%, people have broken TV sets, what little entertainment they had left is gone, and he goes on and spends million of dollars on private airplanes, DISGUSTING.

Very true, except for that bit "what little money hes got left" . Although nobody knows for sure how much his fortune in those Swiss bank accounts is, the bastard is thought to be one of the top 10 richest, as reported in a newspaper article I read a few years ago.


Nice plane though, now that's a sexy eurowhite!

Even richer with the help of his revolutionary puppet Mr. Chavez.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:28 pm

Quoting ViasaMSY (Reply 10):
Even richer with the help of his revolutionary puppet Mr. Chavez.

At least he's got the oil part covered now.

So if they use those the -96s to Venezuela, what are they gonna use them for? to fly a bunch of communists on VIP configuration?  Wink
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:49 pm

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 9):
Nice plane though, now that's a sexy eurowhite

Cuba's not in Europe. Therefore it's just white. And paint schemes are not 'sexy', ever. If you think they are, you need to get out more.  Wink
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:46 am

Cubana has had this "eurowhite" scheme for a while now.
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:40 am

I think I read awhile back that the Cuban govt. has been trying to buy a replacement aircraft to transport Fidel for quite some time but the Ruskies weren't being too cooperative. Guess they were finally able to hammer out a deal.

I don't want to get into politics but when it comes to Cuba, I guess it's almost impossible to resist.

I know Castro's very controversial and not PC at all. But try to keep in perspective, he may be worth $550 million according to Fortune but the Saudi king is $20 billion. That's FORTY times more and that guy gets to fly around in a 747! As far as I'm concerned, the Saudis are almost as sleazy as Fidel with their connections to 9-11. Fidel may oppress his people but at least he isn't getting rich from U.S. business interests. There's plenty of sleazy governments out there that the U.S. has given money to (YOUR taxpayer dollars) that disappeared in a black hole. At least Fidel isn't a hypocrite when it comes to the U.S., we know he hates us. Others smile at our face and take our money while stabbing us in the back. Take your pick. . .  Wink
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:18 am

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 14):
There's plenty of sleazy governments out there that the U.S. has given money to (YOUR taxpayer dollars) that disappeared in a black hole. At least Fidel isn't a hypocrite when it comes to the U.S., we know he hates us

You know how much money Fidel receives from AT&T a year? From Sprint? Just to name two American companies...
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 1:33 pm

LOL, actually Fidel's gotten a lot of indirect financial support from CUBAN-AMERICANS although the tougher new rules set last year by the Bush admin. on family visitations and remittances are trying to limit that.

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:47 pm

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 14):
I don't want to get into politics but when it comes to Cuba, I guess it's almost impossible to resist.

You're right, and it seems (not against you at all) the people have no idea on what they are talking about.

CUBA RECIBIRA EL PRIMERO DE DOS AVIONES Il-96-300 ADQUIRIDOS PARA EL USO EXCLUSIVO DEL DICTADOR

The anti-Cuban 'media' screams. And this rubbish get's picked up by the mainstream media.

The facts are:

YES 2 Il-96-300M have been ordered
YES the cost is in the league of $100 million

BOTH aircraft will enter the Cubana fleet and will be operated on scheduled/charter flights, and when required, will be used by Castro, which will have a smaller cabin in the (presumably) front of the aircraft.

NO none of the aircraft are going to be used by Fidel exclusively
NO none of the aircraft is going to fitted out in exclusively for VIP flights

Now tell me one thing people. Who's the most brainwashed people? The people in Russia and Cuba who got the CORRECT information, or the people outside of Russia and Cuba who got the FALSE information and ranted on like it was CORRECT? (Directed at replies #4, 9, 10)

Reply #32 in this thread, dealing with Castro and the Forbes assumption issue, sums up those opinions (4,9,10) in this thread nicely.

Don't worry. It's atypical of these forums. People making wild accusations without providing a shred of evidence to back it up. The thing is that these people repeat the same baseless things time and time again, and so after a while it is taken to be fact.

Others, go elsewhere for your info I guess.
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 10:07 pm

Just wondering, how many il-62m's and tu-154's does Cubana currently operate. Any chance of seeing tu-204's and tu-334 in Cubana's fleet? The il-96-300 looks great in Cubana's color scheme
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:12 pm

The Il-96 was a really nice concept when it was announced... in 1987!

The problem is that the PS-90 are crappy engines on an otherwise soundly
designed airframe. Meanwhile the design grew older and the A332 happened...

I'm afraid these late sales to Cubana and Aeroflot are sadly Il-96's swan song...
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:36 am

Soyuzavia,

your info is probably right regarding the use of the planes. One word of advice, I would take any PR or "news" announcements by the Cuban goverment with at least a grain of salt. Still, it does make perfect sense to me that the aircraft wouldn't be exclusively for Fidel and his crew. The Cuban govt. simply can't afford to buy a plane that costly and have it sitting around doing nothing most of the time; they're going to be milking it for tourism, cargo, etc. . .

On a side note, I've flown on Cubana from NAS to HAV several times and it can be quite a stressful experience.  Wink

I've flown on an AN24 and a Yak42. Neither, I would want to fly on again. The AN24 had the interesting "white smoke" effect when the ac went on during flight which put a disconcerted look on some of the passengers. I had read about this in advanced so I was mentally prepared!  Smile They also left my luggage behind in Nassau, probably because of a Cuban-American family that treated the plane like their own personal cargo carrier.  Wink I had to go back to the airport the next evening to get my luggage.

The Yak42 had an annoying high-pitched whine made even more annoying due to the oscillation effect from having 3 engines. The plane also seemed to "feel" underpowered, landing felt "weird" compared to modern western jets.

On the other hand, the IL-18 was a great experience. It was a very smooth ride and you'll never forget the throaty roar of those 4 powerful turboprops. Too bad the flight was almost freakin' 90 minutes late and I was stressing about missing my connecting flight back to the States!! I've also flown on an ATR42 which was, of course, a smooth flight.

The IL-62 doesn't look fun to fly, especially if you're sitting in the back close to those 4 engines. I would hope the 96 is an improvement but I'm not exactly eager to try it out!  Wink  Wink
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:26 pm

At least the airplane looks great!

It is sad that the only possibility to see these birds abroad are in companies from Cuba or North Korea.

This from the aeronautical point of view, of course.

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:37 pm

Luisca - this planes were ordered way before this energy crisis and where probably bought years ago. (btw: My mom is currently in Cuba and she says, the apagones are reducing each day.) Luckily there are enough centrists among us because all this extremism is just plain sad.

Its good that Cubana got these long range planes, which as someone said, were great in 1987. As far as I am concerned it must dent the Cubana budget to have to lease planes for their European routes.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:22 am

For Turbo7x7 reply 20
I flew on many BOAC VC-10's in the late 60's early 70's.
The IL-62 and VC-10 basically look like twins. I flew in
the back of the 10 and if I remember correctly, it was
no louder than a MD-80 type of jet. However, I have no
idea about the sound-proofing on the 62.
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:34 pm

Quoting TP313 (Reply 19):
I'm afraid these late sales to Cubana and Aeroflot are sadly Il-96's swan song...


Huh? Volga-Dnepr and KrasAir have just placed orders. There is talk of Transaero getting some. Sales to Libyan Arab are being looked at. As are some sales to China and Iran. VASO will also participate in the tender for Syrian Arab. The Il-96 program has turned a corner for all intents and purposes.


Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 20):
your info is probably right regarding the use of the planes. One word of advice, I would take any PR or "news" announcements by the Cuban goverment with at least a grain of salt.


I take all "PR" from Cuba, US, Russia, anywhere with a grain of salt. It's all about looking deeper behind the information. Such as in this case, anti-Castro media is screaming that the "dictator" is getting aircraft for his exclusive use, yet photos of the aircraft in Voronezh clearly show an airline layout.


Quoting TP313 (Reply 19):
The problem is that the PS-90 are crappy engines on an otherwise soundly designed airframe.


The PS-90A is not exactly a crappy engine. It is not exactly a great engine either. It is not perfect, and yes, there have been some problems. BUT the PS-90A2 is a much more efficient engine and put onto aircraft like the Il-96, Tu-204/214, etc will make these products more competitive. The PS-90A2 would be on par with (or very near to) the PW2000 series in terms of reliability and MTBR. As Russian industry consolidates, and as the support network increases (albeit slowly at the moment), it is not out of the realms of possibility to see airlines outside of the traditional Russian sphere to order the Il-96-300 -- the European charter market is but one segment which could use a long-range aircraft with low new acquisition cost and high efficiency. Things such as interiors are up to the airline to fit out -- either come with standard fittings, or get AKKO or another company to do custom interiors. Still some time off, but to say the Il-96 is all but dead -- might have been true 12 months ago -- hell I even said the same thing -- but the program is turning a corner.
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:35 pm

Quoting Backfire (Reply 12):
Cuba's not in Europe. Therefore it's just white. And paint schemes are not 'sexy', ever. If you think they are, you need to get out more.

Trust me, I feel the same way about those who think winglets look amazing and call airplanes "she". Paint schemes can be sexy, unless your gay of course and don't like the Virgin girls, for example Big grin

Quoting Backfire (Reply 12):
Cubana has had this "eurowhite" scheme for a while now.

11 years

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 14):
There's plenty of sleazy governments out there that the U.S. has given money to (YOUR taxpayer dollars) that disappeared in a black hole. At least Fidel isn't a hypocrite when it comes to the U.S., we know he hates us. Others smile at our face and take our money while stabbing us in the back. Take your pick. . .

Well at least that one is a no brainer, that's called oil. One of the reasons tutor Fidel loves his relationshiop with his student (Chavez) so much

Quoting Soyuzavia (Reply 17):
Now tell me one thing people. Who's the most brainwashed people? The people in Russia and Cuba who got the CORRECT information, or the people outside of Russia and Cuba who got the FALSE information and ranted on like it was CORRECT? (Directed at replies #4, 9, 10)

I'm starting to sound like UDO who replies to everything. Yes I know, lame.. but why did my reply 9 bother you? So we're all brainwashed except you. - applauds -

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 20):
The IL-62 doesn't look fun to fly, especially if you're sitting in the back close to those 4 engines. I would hope the 96 is an improvement but I'm not exactly eager to try it out!

I've heard otherwise.. but could have been from people who "need to get out more" or.. are "brainwashed"  sarcastic 

Quoting Turbo7x7 (Reply 20):
On the other hand, the IL-18 was a great experience

Yes indeed, the IL-18 is as fun as an airplane ride gets  yes 

Quoting MIA (Reply 22):
Luisca - this planes were ordered way before this energy crisis and where probably bought years ago. (btw: My mom is currently in Cuba and she says, the apagones are reducing each day.) Luckily there are enough centrists among us because all this extremism is just plain sad.

Why isn't she in Venezuela helping with the Revolucion Boliviariana? or does she live in an exclusive area for "pinchos" in El Vedado? Not only "apagones" -frequent periods with no electricity-, if there's electricity then there's no water. Take your pick, that's life for ordinary cubans. Nice propaganda though. Your parents must be tremendos "pinchos" verdad?  Wink  shhh  seeing your situation is completely different than 99% of cubans "in" Cuba. So.. you were going to email me and "explain" your situation once. What happened?
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:54 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 25):

I'm starting to sound like UDO who replies to everything. Yes I know, lame

You're just funny...  laughing 


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RE: Cubana Il-96

Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:12 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 25):
Why isn't she in Venezuela helping with the Revolucion Boliviariana? or does she live in an exclusive area for "pinchos" in El Vedado? Not only "apagones" -frequent periods with no electricity-, if there's electricity then there's no water. Take your pick, that's life for ordinary cubans. Nice propaganda though. Your parents must be tremendos "pinchos" verdad? seeing your situation is completely different than 99% of cubans "in" Cuba. So.. you were going to email me and "explain" your situation once. What happened?

Hammer meet nail. Welcome to my respected user's list x707.

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:26 am

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 25):
Why isn't she in Venezuela helping with the Revolucion Boliviariana? or does she live in an exclusive area for "pinchos" in El Vedado? Not only "apagones" -frequent periods with no electricity-, if there's electricity then there's no water. Take your pick, that's life for ordinary cubans. Nice propaganda though. Your parents must be tremendos "pinchos" verdad? seeing your situation is completely different than 99% of cubans "in" Cuba. So.. you were going to email me and "explain" your situation once. What happened?

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:35 am

Could you try to keep politics out of this discussion, please? There are many reasons to dislike Castro, however, the US politics towards Cuba, especially the historical development, would require a much more differentiated view. While confiscation of property is technically illegal, I can somewhat understand why the US companies were expropriated, as they really were exploiting the people of Cuba, just like they did in many other south american countries.

I am not here to defend Castro, but I have been to Cuba, and I can assure that while the system has a lot of deficiencies, it also has positive sides. Unfortunately, people are only exploited by other people today. In the 50s, US companies exploited them, today, the communist government exploits them. Both are equally bad.

Anyway, to get back on topic, how does the IL96 compare to western aircraft? Is it good enough to be used by Cubana? While I understand that Cubana virtually has no competition on some of its routes, is the range of the IL96 enough to use it economically?

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:17 am

Quoting TP313 (Reply 19):
The Il-96 was a really nice concept when it was announced... in 1987!

Right, actually I thought that IL96 was out of production. What ILs are still in active production line?

Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 11):
to fly a bunch of communists on VIP configuration?

yeah those evil communists... the are probably friends of the evil terrorists, right? against the goodies like us, right? Yeah sure

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 29):
Could you try to keep politics out of this discussion, please?

Indeed, this is about Cubana de Aviación and its new aircraft, the rest is matter of Non Aviation forum

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:59 am

Quoting Armada (Reply 27):
Hammer meet nail. Welcome to my respected user's list x707.

same here, & thank you i'll take that as a compliment  thumbsup 

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 29):
I can somewhat understand why the US companies were expropriated, as they really were exploiting the people of Cuba, just like they did in many other south american countries.

That's what Che Guevara thought too, and his philosophy of instigating hate never got his followers nowhere. Have you ever heard a speech of his?

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 29):
it also has positive sides. Unfortunately, people are only exploited by other people today. In the 50s, US companies exploited them, today, the communist government exploits them. Both are equally bad.

Your bosses exploit you the same way, it's called working for somebody. My familily lived there, they weren't rich just ordinary professionals and they weren't exploited by anyone. What are you talking about? The United States was seen as "the good neighbor" not the "imperialistas yanquis" as Fidel calls them. The majority of cubans weren't exploited by U.S. companies, instead these companies contributed directly to the vibrant Cuban economy of the time. Today, everyone is screwed by a failed system.

Last time I checked, having your own business or working for any American company was better than being a woman and being sent to cut sugar cane under the hot sun because "everyone is equal". Or not having disposable baby diapers or disposable kotex for when they have their period. You have no idea what exploitation really is.

Back in the 50s, at the bottom of billboards and magazine ads for products they would say New York - Paris - Havana - London. Now the country is in ruins, save for the tourist spots you euros go to, where ordinary cubans aren't even allowed. How about that for "exploitation"?

Quoting Arcano (Reply 30):
Quoting MIAMIx707 (Reply 11):
to fly a bunch of communists on VIP configuration?

yeah those evil communists... the are probably friends of the evil terrorists, right? against the goodies like us, right?

What are you talking about? You're smarter than that I hope  Wink Some people need to resist posting if they have nothing to contribute but I dont' mind answering you at all. Cuba under Fidel has trained Palestinian terrorists, befriended the North Koreans, Saddam and other dictators have been personal friends of his. Had Allende lived and those "great communists" took a handle over in your country, you wouln't be allowed to use the internet to post crap. Instead of having a pretty good living standard for its citizens as it does today, Chile's economy would be in the toilet. Your beloved Lan Chile that you're so fannatical about would be nothing more than a crappy state-owned airline, and you'd have much less time on your hands.

I'm actually glad Cubana gets newer planes for the safety of passengers. It's not like ordinary cubans would be seeing any of that money anyways.

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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:51 am

I also think aeroflot placed an order for 6 more Il-96-300's. I don't understand why airlines aren't going for the il-96-400?

Go to http://www.ifc-leasing.com/en/il-96-400.php for more info.

Where can one find out about the ps90A2 engines?

If you can read russian, here is the order by aeroflot for 6 more. (I think, I don't read russian too well, so I might have misread the information, and if I did, my regrets). http://www.aeroflot.ru/news.asp?ob_no=142&d_no=10739
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:49 am

Here is the first real picture of it!

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/photos/il96cubana.jpg

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/viewphoto.main?LC=nav2&picid=2233

[Edited 2005-08-15 21:50:52]
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:05 am

I'd love to see the CU IL-96 in YYZ. We already get Cubana, and with about 20 weekly flights to Varadero and 10 weekly to Ciego de Avila in the winter, the demand for a widebody is certainly there.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:19 am

What makes you think that this plane will fly for Castro?

It looks like its been configured for high density tourist traffic.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:36 am

Looks great! {Bigthumbsup}
I hope that we'll get to see the IL-96 here in the U.S.A. once this stupid embargo is lifted. Damn mobsters down in Miami is responsible for that.  Sad

I'd like to see more IL-96 orders.
Northwest would have looked great on an IL-96 instead of that boring large twin (A330) they went with.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:05 am

That is one fine looking bird. The interior although not thrilling looks competent.

According to the federales web site they issued a type certificate A54NM for the IL96T with Pratt engines...didn't find the PS90 but I didn't look hard.


Congrats to Ilyushin-it's a fine accomplishment and a world class product.

Enough pissing and moaning about politics everyone...I got my ears boxed for it and I'm ready to behave now and to talk about aviation.
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:29 am

Lovely aircraft! Although those Economy seats don't have PTVs or anything, they still look really comfortable! Would love to fly one of these from London to Cuba one day...
 
Superfly
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 8:48 am

Quoting Vasu (Reply 38):
Although those Economy seats don't have PTVs or anything, they still look really comfortable!

...and you get free cigars and some of the best rum in flight.  Cool
To hell with a silly PTV, you'll meet a lot interesting people inflight going to Cuba anyway.  Smile
Bring back the Concorde
 
miamix707
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:31 pm

Man, that is one BEAUTIFUL plane on a SHARP livery. wow. My favorite livery/plane combination now.

The Cubana tail design fits this plane perfectly and on the nose they even put the old-school black visor in there  cool 


Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 34):
I'd love to see the CU IL-96 in YYZ. We already get Cubana, and with about 20 weekly flights to Varadero and 10 weekly to Ciego de Avila in the winter, the demand for a widebody is certainly there.

Yes but those are the ugly A320s on the boring livery of Taca :/ I'd go to YYZ to see this IL-96 for sure.
 
bhmbaglock
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:52 am

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 29):
I can somewhat understand why the US companies were expropriated, as they really were exploiting the people of Cuba, just like they did in many other south american countries.

By and large, I think the Cuban people were much less exploited pre-revolution than post-revolution and would love to see anyone offer a rational fact based rebuttal to this statement.
Where are all of my respected members going?
 
Orion737
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:57 am

Bet the seat pitch on those Cubana flights to Europe beats that offered by UK charter carriers flying to Cuba.

A Thomas Cook or Monarch 330 in a 3-3-3 charter configuration to Holguin is no joke!
 
miamix707
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:23 am

Quoting Bhmbaglock (Reply 41):
By and large, I think the Cuban people were much less exploited pre-revolution than post-revolution and would love to see anyone offer a rational fact based rebuttal to this statement

They can't.. Too bad some Euros and some Americans don't care as long as they can go to another country on the first case to get some sun, on the latter to get the sex with little girls they would never get in the USA..

So, assuming these IL96s are strictly for snowbird flights and never for Castro's use (according to you experts) where will they likely fly to? There will only be 2 of these.

LGW, YYZ, MAD? Someone said Cubana have 20 weekly flights to Canada, any of these are still occationally flown by the IL-62s or is the type banned in Canada already?
 
manzoori
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:59 am

Hehehe! Almost got it right!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rez.manzoori/fakes/Cubana-1l-96-300.jpg

 Wink

Rez
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miamix707
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:14 am

Quoting Manzoori (Reply 44):
Hehehe! Almost got it right!

I actually like yours better. The titles under the windows, and the red on the tail isn't as thick (keeping it true to the livery on the rest of the fleet). Painted the winglets and all..

They should leave these corporate image matters to us plane freaks  cool 
 
Aviadvigatel
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sat Aug 20, 2005 2:53 am

for Hjulicher re: PS-90 engines-

For information on these engines, you can go directly to the Aviadvigatel web site at www.avid.ru
The site is in english as well, although some of the translation is a bit dodgy!
 
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RE: Cubana Il-96

Sat Aug 20, 2005 11:43 am

As i already mentionned in another thread , it is confirmed that ILL96 CU will fly to Orly at the beginning of next year , at the end lease time of 744 Air Atlanta Europe they have now.
Probably they will also fly to Madrid with it.