airxliban
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Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 12:36 pm

In the process of booking a few virgin atlantic (or BA, haven't decided yet) from LAX-LHR in september/december, january/march and april/june and I noticed that VS7/8 is scheduled for an A340-600 as early as October/November. Why the change? Where is the 744 going and why have they decided to do that? VS23/24 still to be A340-300 permanently?
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:03 pm

I remember reading that JFK was going back to the A340-300 and that LAX was going to the A340-600. I imagine that the B747 is going to a new Caribbean destination.
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:20 pm

How odd - according to Sabre VS7/8 are scheduled to be operated by 744 equipment, and VS23/24 to remain as 343.

Likewise, all NYC routes for Sep/Oct are scheduled as a mix of 744 and 346.

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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:32 pm

I thought JFK was going to be the A340-300 and B747-400?
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airxliban
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:21 pm

Hmm...anyone from VS able to chime in?
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:55 pm

A346 planned for VS7 from Winter Schedule, VS23 remains A343. Plans change though at VS, quickly!

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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:22 pm

Ouch. Any idea for after the winter schedule? It is going to be funny seeing the A346 at LAX on a regular basis. Where is the 744 going...I thoguht all the new Caribbean routes were out of Gatwick?

Isn't this is a significant reduction in capacity?

A346 is 48/28/233 and 744 is 44/32/318...so even though more UCS can be sold, there are still about 100 less total seats.

On the other hand isn't BA doing 3x on some days?

To be honest this move is putting me off booking with VS. I need to book four roundtrips between LAX and LHR and I need to decide between VS and BA. I've already booked one on VS...
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 3:31 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 6):
Isn't this is a significant reduction in capacity?

A346 is 48/28/233 and 744 is 44/32/318...so even though more UCS can be sold, there are still about 100 less total seats.

Less seats, but should be a much nicer mix of yields. Less pressure to sell lower fare buckets and holiday package holiday folks to fill planes especially during the winter period.

Good move in my book.
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:06 pm

This doesn't sound like Richard's style at all. He's made his money and built the airline on being first, or biggest or best.

He was certainly unhappy with the problems at US airports which will not be A380 ready in time for his original in service date.

As for the supposed "peak season" reason, I've flown transatlantic with Virgin regularly, year round and, whilst there are some troughs, the flights are regularly well loaded and the introduction of the A380 will generate extra traffic from regular travellers on other airlines, interested in trying the new type as well as those taking a trip for the experience
 
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:28 pm

Quoting Philb (Reply 8):
He was certainly unhappy with the problems at US airports which will not be A380 ready in time for his original in service date.

Sounds like Branson was one of those kids in grade school who just HAD to have everyone play HIS game HIS way.
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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Fri Jul 29, 2005 4:40 pm

Quoting Philb (Reply 8):
the A380 will generate extra traffic from regular travellers on other airlines, interested in trying the new type as well as those taking a trip for the experience

Maybe so - but 400 or so more per flight? Surely not....

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RE: Virgin 7/8 To/from LAX To Be A346?

Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:29 am

On the other hand isn't BA doing 3x on some days?

AirxLiban : Yes BA operate 3x EVERYDAY OF THE WEEK FOR THE SUMMER SCHEDUAL to LAX , all 3 operated by B744, However i belive it goes back down to twice daily ( both still operated by 744 )for the winter and back to 3x for next summer

BTW Summer schedual is FROM March 26th uptil and including October 29th and Winter is from October 30th-March 25th 2006

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