dogfighter2111
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Maxjet Approved In...

Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:52 pm

Hiya all,

I don't know if this has been discussed, but i found out that Maxjet has been approved in:

Aruba , Austria , Belgium , Canada , Chile , Germany , France , Italy , the Netherlands , and the United Kingdom.

Maxjet will also start operations this year.

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:55 pm

A bit of excitement when I got a flat tire yesterday the 28th if July: my car ended up inbetween the flight paths of 18R & 18L of MCO off Lee Vista Rd. While changing my tire I looked up to see a B762 flying over and low and behold it said very clearly "MAX" on the tail!

I guess they are doing their proving runs here in the states now too!

Quite a treat to see!
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Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:58 pm

Is it me or does their livery look like Excel Airways of the UK...?


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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:56 pm

Quoting AirEuropeUK733 (Reply 2):
Is it me or does their livery look like Excel Airways of the UK...?

It's not you, I thought the same thing. Seeing as Excel is now part of Air Atlanta, maybe the owners have set up this new airline and decided to use the same color scheme!
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Fri Jul 29, 2005 11:58 pm

They come into JFK a few nights a week. Started a week or two ago.
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:11 am

They do look like Excel airways, but there is a new Chinease airline with Embraer-170's. Their fleet looks identical.


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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:43 am

For those this side of the pond -

"MXJ007" currently showing on BAA flight arrivals as due at STN at 2200L this evening from JFK.
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:36 am

MXJ007 departed JFK and is due into STN at 12:18am local time, assuming the flight isn't given a diversion scenario. It will be in STN all day tomorrow.

Thanks again to the airliners.net community for the support over the past couple of years as we've put the airline together. A number of you have contributed in many ways and we appreciate your interest in what we're doing. New certificates don't come along often in the US and we're proud of what the team has accomplished so far, even if it has been a lot more complex than we first anticipated. There is a lot of work left to do.
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:58 am

Quoting AirEuropeUK733 (Reply 2):
Is it me or does their livery look like Excel Airways of the UK...?

Yes that's what I thought too, at least the color and even the titles on the front somehow remind u of excel. Not too innovative of a livery with the all too common blue and a pattern that looks like UPS.

Quoting AkjetBlue (Reply 1):
A bit of excitement when I got a flat tire yesterday the 28th if July: my car ended up inbetween the flight paths of 18R & 18L of MCO off Lee Vista Rd. While changing my tire I looked up to see a B762 flying over and low and behold it said very clearly "MAX" on the tail!

Do you know where it parked? I happened to drive by tradeport drive yesturday afternoon and it wasn't there, maybe it was parked on one of the terminals? I wish I had gotten a flat and seen it Big grin
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:01 am

The livery not only looks like that of Excel, but also that of ValuJet's.


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Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:15 am

MaxJet has also applied to do domestic US routes recently. They've got some good innovative people up there putting it together so I wish them the best! They've got a website up too. www.maxjet.com
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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 6:47 pm

Quoting N770WD (Reply 7):

Hey, do you work for Maxjet? If so, great job and hope you'll be around longer than EUJet.

Quoting Flynavy (Reply 9):

Yeah, it does look a bit like Valujet. The Maxjet livery is nicer though.

Thanks
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:07 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 11):
Quoting N770WD (Reply 7):


Hey, do you work for Maxjet?

Well the username is the same as the aircraft reg below:


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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:31 am

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 12):

Well Done,

I was waiting to see who would spot that first  Wink

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Joking, well spotted  Smile

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:45 am

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 13):
I was waiting to see who would spot that first

Yes indeed. I too hope we'll be around longer than EUjet.

N770WD is in STN today and will operate STN-JFK tomorrow for the second transatlantic proving run. It is scheduled to depart at 9am local, although schedules can slip due to practice scenarios. Arrival at JFK around 1pm local.
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:55 pm

Good luck through your proving runs N770WD. I went through them with Pro Air back in early 1997 and it was both fun and nerve wracking...The drinks will never taste better the night you get your certificate!

Cheers!
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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:04 pm

Quoting N770WD (Reply 14):

I may seem stupid asking this Question, but are the proving runs done for the timetables etc.?

I wonder if you guys will expand in the UK prett quickly, cos it'd be nice to see you in EDI or GLA.

Thanks
Mike
 
N770WD
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:45 am

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 16):
I may seem stupid asking this Question, but are the proving runs done for the timetables etc.?

Not a stupid question. The proving runs are the final stage in new airline certification, although proving runs are also conducted when an airline inducts a new aircraft type (e.g. when Northwest inducted the A330 or Indy the A319). We operate the proving runs as if they were scheduled flights, and the FAA observes from on-board and in the system ops center. As for the routes, the runs are meant to resemble the proposed operation.

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 16):
I wonder if you guys will expand in the UK prett quickly, cos it'd be nice to see you in EDI or GLA.

There are a lot of great opportunities within reach.

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 15):
I went through them with Pro Air back in early 1997 and it was both fun and nerve wracking...

You have that right! The process has become significantly more complicated since 1997 so it's definitely nerve wracking. The ops team has done a great job.
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:49 am

Quoting JFKviaPHX (Reply 4):
They come into JFK a few nights a week. Started a week or two ago.

Those are the test runs they are undergoing to get FAA certification.

Looks like a good airline. Would I fly them? Probably not but I like their name and the livery.
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:54 am

MXJ009 currently showing up on BAA flight arrivals as due at STN for the second time tomorrow (Monday 1st) at 1000 from JFK.

A slightly more sociable time of the day to arrive this time!
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:06 pm

Quoting N770WD (Reply 17):

Thanks for the info.

Quoting CORULEZ05 (Reply 18):

Why wouldn't you fly them?

I am going to suggest the airline to my parents. We were planning on going to New York next year.

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:15 pm

Quoting GAWZU (Reply 19):
MXJ009 currently showing up on BAA flight arrivals as due at STN for the second time tomorrow (Monday 1st) at 1000 from JFK.

Just checked this one's status this morning, and it's now showing as Cancelled.
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:50 pm

Quoting GAWZU (Reply 21):

Today is the 2nd, do you know why it was cancelled?

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:06 pm

The first day of the scheduled JFK-MCO domestic run was cancelled also. It was scheduled for the next day and departed/arrived earlier!!! than planned so I couldn't go see it land.. grrr ;(
 
N770WD
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:57 pm

MXJ009 just landed in STN this morning east coast time. Schedules shifted around due to permits and scenarios. MXJ010 is scheduled for tomorrow at 9am local time, returning to Kennedy. There is an MCO rotation scheduled for Thursday, currently scheduled to arrive MCO at 3:30pm.
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:11 am

Quoting N770WD (Reply 24):

Thanks for the info.

Thanks
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 7:18 am

Quoting N770WD (Reply 7):
Thanks again to the airliners.net community for the support over the past couple of years as we've put the airline together. A number of you have contributed in many ways and we appreciate your interest in what we're doing. New certificates don't come along often in the US and we're proud of what the team has accomplished so far, even if it has been a lot more complex than we first anticipated. There is a lot of work left to do.

What is your job in the airline?
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:36 pm

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 26):

Hey,

With his information on times etc., i think he will have something to do with Operations.

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:01 pm

Quoting N770WD (Reply 24):

Can you tell us more about Maxjet product? I have visited the airline's website but couldn't find much about it.

Also, a question to all. Can the LCC concept be as succesful on long-haul flights as it is on short to medium-haul flights?
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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:32 pm

Quoting Aleksandar (Reply 28):

Hey,

The LCC concept can be used anywhere really. They could offer flights for $10 but you still have to pay Taxes and Surcharges on top.

Thanks
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:35 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 29):
The LCC concept can be used anywhere really. They could offer flights for $10 but you still have to pay Taxes and Surcharges on top.

I think you misunderstood Dogfighter.

Yes the concept could be used anywhere, buit not succesfully. People expect a little bit more on longer flights. In the summer season, when the full service carriers charge much more for flights, the LCC concept transtatlantic could work well. But come winter, when the likes of BA, VS, AA et all offer full service for much lower prices, the LCC would be at a distinct disadvantage.

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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 9:42 pm

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 30):

Ohh right, i get it now. Soz Aleksander.

Maybe a full service will be available on the flights?

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:36 pm

max jet was back in STN this morning i can see it very clearly from where i am.... It will be great to be able to across the atlantic again from STN seems like so long ago continental pulled the plug on there flights..

I remember doing a party for CO to celebrate the Inaugural flight...never got my free tickets, maybe maxjet will furnish me with some!!

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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:39 pm

When did CO start flying to STN and when did they stop?

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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:45 pm

Quoting Dogfighter2111 (Reply 31):
Soz Aleksander

No problem.

Well, LCCs on European routes work just fine, but we're talking about flights not longer than 2.5 hours (few exceptions here and there). One can live without free coffee and Coke for that time or can easily buy some on board, but what about 7 hours long flights? Even the legacy carriers had many problems with seat pitch recently, not to mention the service. Generally, LCCs do offer cheap tickets, but their on-board service is not that cheap. If that is the case on long-haul LCCs, an average passenger would buy dinner (or lunch) which is overpriced. Then, you have IFE that is charged as well. With all the costs put together, can the long-haul LCC be really that competitive with giants such as BA, LH, AF, AA?

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 30):
People expect a little bit more on longer flights.

I agree with you.

Quoting 7LBAC111 (Reply 30):
In the summer season, when the full service carriers charge much more for flights

Even on high season, they are not necessarily that expensive. All you have to do is buy a ticket in advance.

There is another clear advantage of big carriers - transit passengers. Here, in Belgrade, major airlines such as AF, LH, BA offer very good deals and probably attract a decent number of passengers. They can, for example offer an RT to JFK for 495$ and it is a good deal. You fly with the same airline, check-in once and earn some FF miles too. If it's true that only a handful of airlines will survive in the next decade, importance of transit passengers is even greater and long-haul LCC can't compete there.
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:46 pm

Why oh why did you ask that question.....I think they started maybe 1 year (give or take) before 9/11 and it stopped about 10/11 !!!
I think it was operated by a 757 but i maybe totally wrong here or 767.
i never got to go on it as i dint earn enough money then to afford to go the states.
Hopefully if maxjet gets the ok i will be able to use them as STN is only 5 minutes from home!!

NWC

Here you go

CO 038 0720 0930 CO 039 752 EWR/EWR 1234567 02-May-01

so maybe only lasted 7 - 8 months then!!

[Edited 2005-08-03 15:50:21]
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Wed Aug 03, 2005 10:49 pm

Well, i may purswade my parents to take me to NYC using Maxjet but we will more than likely fly CO from EDI.

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:25 am

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 26):


Quoting N770WD (Reply 7):
:
Thanks again to the airliners.net community for the support over the past couple of years as we've put the airline together. A number of you have contributed in many ways and we appreciate your interest in what we're doing. New certificates don't come along often in the US and we're proud of what the team has accomplished so far, even if it has been a lot more complex than we first anticipated. There is a lot of work left to do.

What is your job in the airline?

VERY high up, that's all you need to know!

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dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:12 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 37):

hehe, gotcha  Smile
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:06 am

Quoting Nwc100 (Reply 35):
so maybe only lasted 7 - 8 months then!!

Despite very positive loads, CO's STN-EWR route was culled, as you say, almost immediately after 9/11 - I'd say that a figure of only 5 months is sadly more accurate! CO said at the time that they were hopeful of returning, but it's almost 4 years on and no sign yet...

With only a few weeks left of the summer peak season, MaxJet will do well to encourage traffic on a new route with a new concept in the autumn low season. Note that many, if not all, new transatlantic services are launched at the beginning of the summer season (e.g. the recent CO to BRS), and that some (particularly from regional UK gateways) are seasonal services which don't operate in the winter. As it stands MaxJet will be a new entrant that no one has ever heard of, flying an as-yet-unproven LCC service to an airport with very little in the way of formal connections, at a time of year when the established carriers actually downsize their capacity...

Of course I'd love MXJ to prove me wrong and start to STN tomorrow (!), but personally I'd concentrate on winter US domestics to the sunshine state for the next 6 months and then think about transatlantics in the spring.
 
dogfighter2111
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:16 am

Quoting GAWZU (Reply 39):

Well, every Airport in London has a high demand.

I think it will do better than you think.

Thanks
Mike
 
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting RobK (Reply 37):
VERY high up, that's all you need to know!

Well on that note, I then wish you the best of luck with the proving runs, and all the success in the world as a full-fledged airline when the time comes. I know I will be looking to fly on your product in the future.  Smile
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RE: Maxjet Approved In...

Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:36 pm

Quoting Typhaerion (Reply 41):

I think that goes for everyone.  Smile

Thanks
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