xlpants
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New Head Of DL Network Planning

Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:43 am

Delta also said it hired Glen Hauenstein, an executive at Italian airline Alitalia, as Whitehurst's replacement to oversee network planning and fare-pricing functions.

If I were in DL publicity dept, I don't know if I would boast of hiring someone from Alitalia to head up the network group. I understand that most of his experience was at CO. That background makes me feel better about his role at DL and what could be coming down the runway! Any thoughts on what he will do at DL?
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:28 am

His Bio says while at at Alitalia he reduced the fleet size by 10% and increased revenues by 20%. This according to the blurb was the lynchpin of AZ's recapitalization plan.

Maybe someone with AZ can add to this?
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:25 pm

Quoting Xlpants (Thread starter):
Any thoughts on what he will do at DL?

He'll hopefully go for even more international flying *cough*Hamburg*cough* Big grin .
 
mia
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:26 pm

He will hopefully stop raping us in TLH. More MIA from TLH please!
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:42 am

Quoting Xlpants (Thread starter):
I understand that most of his experience was at CO. That background makes me feel better about his role at DL and what could be coming down the runway! Any thoughts on what he will do at DL?

Well, based upon that, how about RJ's everywhere and almost NO point to point routes???
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:22 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 2):
He'll hopefully go for even more international flying *cough*Hamburg*cough* .

DAL767400ER, that would be good if DL reinstated the HAM flight. I believe DL has the most destinations to Germany from all US-carriers, is this true?

CVG-FRA 1x
JFK-TXL/FRA 1x each
ATL-MUC/STU 1x each
ATL-FRA 2x

I think that is all DL flights to DE.
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:36 am

Quoting B4real (Reply 5):
I believe DL has the most destinations to Germany from all US-carriers, is this true?

Yup, correct (Stuttgart is STR btw), but it's still significantly less than what they used to have during their all-time high in flights, when they also had JFK-MUC/STR/HAM-TXL and ATL-HAM, and that's not even counting the FRA hub.
However flight- and seat-wise, UA is the number one, with one more flight than DL and significantly more seats thanks to the use of primary 777 and a single 744 and 763 each.
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:39 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 6):
However flight- and seat-wise, UA is the number one, with one more flight than DL and significantly more seats thanks to the use of primary 777 and a single 744 and 763 each.

I agree. This is a general reflection of DL's strategy - use the 767. They serve more destinations that way, and save the 777 for routes needed - CDG and NRT specifically. LGW and FRA as a bonus. The occasional 777 @ FCO and AMS to tickle the fancy of the spotters there.
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:46 am

Quoting MIA" class=quote target=_blank>MIA (Reply 3):
He will hopefully stop raping us in TLH. More MIA from TLH please!

That sounds like it would be better served by American Eagle, where they can capture connecting traffic beyond the MIA-TLH O&D traffic.
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:17 am

Quoting B4real (Reply 7):
This is a general reflection of DL's strategy - use the 767

Too true, and it has worked very well in the last decade, but the problem is that DL doesn't have a smaller longhaul plane, like CO has in the 757. If that were the case, DL would probably still be serving some 6 more destinations from JFK (DUB/SNN, MAN, CPH, HAM, LIS) alone, not to mention that by possibly using the 757 to AMS and BRU, they could free up 2 763s for other routes. Rumors are again surfacing about DL getting ETOPS for their 757s to build up both JFK and BOS, but as much as I'd love to see that, I have strong doubts that'll happen.
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:20 am

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 9):
Rumors are again surfacing about DL getting ETOPS for their 757s to build up both JFK and BOS, but as much as I'd love to see that, I have strong doubts that'll happen.

Yes there has been some noise recently about possibly converting the ETOPS-enabled 757s acquired from ATA (apparently it costs US$2.5m to convert each a/c - for both ETOPS and to add BizElite seats). The other noise, though a remote possibility, is to convert some 767-400ERs given the scarcity of the 772s - some routes such as JFK-CDG, are in need of that capacity...

However, the only sure thing so far is that 8 domestic 763ERs will be converted to international flying (4 in 2006; 4 in 2007); these are, or will be soon, getting BizElite seats.
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:07 am

Have they ever served DUS?
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:19 am

Quoting Jmc1975 (Reply 8):
That sounds like it would be better served by American Eagle, where they can capture connecting traffic beyond the MIA-TLH O&D traffic.

Delta Connection offers 11 daily non-stops between South Florida and Tallahasse - four each from Miami and Fort Lauderdale and three from West Palm Beach. It is a major goverment/business route. Of course Eagle would carry more traffic, but there is a good amount of high-yielding O&D. Delta makes a killing on their Tallahasse flights. They also fly TPA-TLH and MCO-TLH.
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:51 am

That sounds like it would be better served by American Eagle, where they can capture connecting traffic beyond the MIA-TLH O&D traffic.

I always wondered why American Eagle never started this route. Seems like a no brainer.
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:18 pm

Quoting Panamair (Reply 10):
Yes there has been some noise recently about possibly converting the ETOPS-enabled 757s acquired from ATA (apparently it costs US$2.5m to convert each a/c - for both ETOPS and to add BizElite seats). The other noise, though a remote possibility, is to convert some 767-400ERs given the scarcity of the 772s - some routes such as JFK-CDG, are in need of that capacity...

Too bad that all that are only rumors, Delta could do very well with a plane smaller than the 763ER and an intermediate between the 763ER and the 772 (73 seats more is a huge gap). Seeing some 764s going international is probably more likely, seeing as DL wouldn't have to waste money on ETOPS as the 764s are already ETOPS-certified due to the HI flights. Schedule-wise, it remains to be seen if DL would be able to pull some 764s off Florida routes, while at the same time the 762s are going. That's a lot of capacity going that could only be caught up by 757/738s and more p2p service at the same time.
 
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RE: New Head Of DL Network Planning

Tue Aug 02, 2005 10:39 pm

Quoting TLHFLA (Reply 13):
I always wondered why American Eagle never started this route. Seems like a no brainer.

They have never been strong in the Southeast, outside of Miami, Nashville, and Raleigh. However, after the Delta pulldown at DFW, they have been looking at expanding in the Southeast, and have added a plethora of destinations - CAE, GPT, MOB, VPS, SAV, LEX, and PNS. More are coming, and TLH may be one of them, with service from Dallas. Service from Miami would is possible, but it is more along the lines of "well, since we are starting service from Dallas, we might as well send in some Miami flights". Delta has the government contracts for travel in this market, thanks to their extensive intra-Florida network from TLH. AA would have to offer two (perferably three) daily flights to steal some business traffic and fly it with RJs to please travellers. In the end, most of the traffic would be FSU students and those connecting to the Latin America, which probably wouldn't bring in enough revenue. Delta will still be flying the politicians and lawyers that make MIA-TLH such a high yielding route.
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