vfw614
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EVA Airways And China Airlines - What's The Idea?

Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:56 pm

I was wondering how the two Taiwanese long-haul carriers co-exist, given the relatively small home-market and the limited scope of expansion because of the political situation of Taiwan (which probably makes it also difficult to become a member of an alliance).

Do they have some kind of gentleman's agreement or is it cut-throat competition ? I have noted, for example, that of the 4 European destinations CI serves, 2 are also served by BR and I find it surprising that these are VIE and AMS - rather than FRA, LON or CDG which are only served by one of the two.

Do these two airlines have a different clientele and differentiate themselves through their marketing, service, prices, comfort etc. (e.g. like BA and Virgin in the UK) ? Has one of the two significantly better results or is expanding more rapidly than the other ?

Any thoughts ?
 
cornish
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RE: EVA Airways And China Airlines - What's The Idea?

Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:04 pm

Eva is a division of Evergreen International - the world's largest shipping company. Chian Airlines I think is part government owned and part listed.

The Taiwanese market is far bigger than you might think - dpesite the international issues of recognition. Taipei-Kaoshiung (Taiwan's second city) is one of the busiest domestic markets in the world, and Taipei-Hong kong is THE biggest city-pair route.

Should China-Taiwan flying be opened up to scheduled services, then this market would be massive.

As for the routes they fly. Well in Europe it may be down to the fact that many countires will see that bilaterals only allow one carrier from each country to fly a route. Perhaps Austria and Holland have more open agreements.

Also bare in mind that although they are both passenger carriers, cargo plays a greater role in these airlines than perhaps any other recognised passenger airlines in the world. Over half EVA's revenues come from Cargo for example.
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vfw614
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RE: EVA Airways And China Airlines - What's The Idea?

Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:46 pm

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
The Taiwanese market is far bigger than you might think - dpesite the international issues of recognition. Taipei-Kaoshiung (Taiwan's second city) is one of the busiest domestic markets in the world, and Taipei-Hong kong is THE biggest city-pair route.

I know, but they have dedicated off-springs for those routes (and in case of CI even Mandarin for some international routes). It seems that CI is just about to start to sell TPE as a transit gateway to East Asia, the Pacific and Australia (they now have a free stop over programme).

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
Should China-Taiwan flying be opened up to scheduled services, then this market would be massive.

Yes, indeed. But of course all the "Communist Chinese" airlines would take a piece of the slice and the Hongkong shuttle would be cut back enormously.
 
chiawei
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RE: EVA Airways And China Airlines - What's The Idea?

Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:56 am

Yes the hongkong route will drop significantly.

But more flight will be operated between shanghai, Guang zhou, beijing, da-lien, and taipei/kaoshiaung.
 
alexchao
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RE: EVA Airways And China Airlines - What's The Idea?

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:24 am

Quoting Cornish (Reply 1):
Eva is a division of Evergreen International - the world's largest shipping company

Actually, EVA Air is a member of the Evergreen Group. Evergreen Marine is also a member of the Evergreen Group and is a major shareholder of EVA Air.

And, its definitely true that cargo plays a big role. CI has the world's largest B747-400F fleet.

As for passenger traffic, I believe a decent amount is connecting traffic to other Asian countries.