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Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:30 am

hey guys... I was just wondering since Seattle is also one of the biggest city in western coast of United States, I wonder why there is no a non stop flight between Hongkong and Seattle.

I know EVA Air operates Taipei - Seattle.

SInce other big citis such as San Francisco - Los Angeles and Vancouver (canada) have direct flight to hongkong. I wonder why seattle doesn't have one?

is it the demand is low for this sector? or something else?

thanks....

I wonder if Cathay Pacific is thinking about open up Hongkong - Seattle routes, that would be nice.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:34 am

United used to operate SEA-HKG awhile back...perhaps the 80s and early 90s.

If Northwest survives to see the introduction of the 787, perhaps you'll see SEA-HKG retun. Likewise, if Cathay Pacific buys the plane, SEA would be a likely new destination.

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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:36 am

Quoting Palladium (Thread starter):
is it the demand is low for this sector? or something else?

I think that is the main factor , Their are only 2 ( i think) European airlines that serve SEA , BA and SAS

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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:51 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe YVR has a much stronger ex-pat Hong Kong community than we do. CX and AC operate the route, and it's a quick flight up there to connect. For those not wanting to go via YVR, they can fly there via NRT on NW, or go to SFO/LAX first and then on to HKG on UA.

UA used 747SP starting '83 to HKG. Not sure how long it lasted, though.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:53 am

Seattle does not have the demand for the market. There is also no carrier that can provide connection feed for it. Korean Air started service to Seoul from here because Delta can feed Seattle effectively from all points east and south.

Asiana continues to operate to SEL daily.

Northwest flies to Tokyo daily because they have forever and again, they can feed it from both MSP and DTW.

China Airlines has point to point service. EVA Air operates a EWR-SEA-TPE, so it is a split operation between EWR/SEA and TPE. EVA and CI are in the best position to provide good connections via TPE, HKG is about about an hour plus flight from TPE.

Finally, United operates one daily trip to NRT, which connects to all of its flights throughout the orient and to SE Asia.

With all that flying to the Far East, a nonstop SEA-HKG would pull passengers off those flights, not add any additional traffic. There is already sufficient service via LAX/SFO/YVR.

Since only United, Delta/Alaska/Northwest/American are large enough to provide sufficient feed for such a flight, realistically, it would be only United or Northwest who would add the service. Both had it and both failed.

What is more needed in the Seattle market right now is a United nonstop to London. BA has a monopoly on the route and because of that, the only three options to London are BA nonstop, or SK via CPH or NW via AMS. We need another London carrier to raise the competitive bar here. United shifted its route authority from Seattle to Chicago to operate a third London flight, which it is currently not using, so it could take that route authority and shift it back to Seattle, where it could add an additional flight and start rebuilding its presence here. Seattle is still in the top 10 cities they operate (no 8), it would not take much to build it back up to mini hub status to the Orient. We have the facilities and it would cut two hours off the travel time from the states to any point in Asia.

Just a thought.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:54 am

Hongkong is bigger than Taipei >< how can this sector be that low? I live in Seattle and there are a lot of Asian people live here.

Apart of that,.... I really want Hongkong - Seattle route soo badly hehe with this I can go back to my country easier ^^
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:04 am

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 3):
UA used 747SP starting '83 to HKG. Not sure how long it lasted, though.

I was pretty sure United started the route with the DC-10-30, along with SEA-NRT and PDX-NRT. Matter of fact, I still have a pamphlet touting the Royal Pacific Service on these flights including a seat map of the DC-10, and a route map to/from SEA and PDX showing onward connections.

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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:15 am

StevenUhl777,UA didn't get the -SP's til '86.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:25 am

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 4):
Asiana continues to operate to SEL daily.

Asiana is 3x a week, as is Korean Air. Their schedules don't cordinate, so on Saturdays there are two flights to Seoul, and on Fridays and Sundays there are none.

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 4):
China Airlines has point to point service. EVA Air operates a EWR-SEA-TPE, so it is a split operation between EWR/SEA and TPE.

China Airlines' flight is a split operation between IAH/SEA.

Northwest flew SEA-HKG in the mid-1990s, IIRC. Did not last long.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:26 am

Quoting Palladium (Reply 5):
Hongkong is bigger than Taipei >< how can this sector be that low? I live in Seattle and there are a lot of Asian people live here.

Okay, just having a large Asian population doesn't necessarily translate into high demand for a nonstop to HKG. Especially since the larger population of people from Hong Kong live up in Vancouver. A lot of the Asians in Seattle are from Korea, Vietnam, and Taiwan (hence the Taipei flight - that, plus the high tech business between Seattle and Taiwan).

For folks in SEA, there are a lot of one-stop options to get to Hong Kong - most of which are through hubs so the connection is relatively short.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:28 am

MAH4546,
I stand corrected, thank you.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:42 am

Quoting United_Fan (Reply 7):
StevenUhl777,UA didn't get the -SP's til '86

Yes...of course.  Wink My bad.

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 4):
United shifted its route authority from Seattle to Chicago to operate a third London flight, which it is currently not using,

No,that SEA-LHR slot went to SFO...to allow the 2nd nonstop from SFO (#954)

Re: ORD-LHR...UA operates *3* daily flights to/from LHR:

ORD-LHR
958 leaves 4:10pm
928 leaves 6:25pm
938 leaves 9:25pm

LHR-ORD
929 leaves 10:35am
949 leaves 12:40pm
959 leaves 3:40pm

UA won't bring a flight back to SEA...especially if they can make MORE MONEY on it from either SFO or ORD!!!
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:48 am

I would think UA would have the best shot at restarting the route - they have some feed in SEA, and there are lots of loyal UA members in the area.

Also, UA now offers some connections beyong HKG that might increase the ridership.

Both UA and NW operated the SEA-HKG routes with the 747 - I think a 777 or 332 would see more success, or even a 787.

Also in Asia, NH is rumored to be interested in SEA-NGO and there are always the rumors about NW bringing back SEA-KIX.

I agree that we need another LHR flight - the BA flight is packed in the summer and in the past they have sometimes offered 2x daily. UA seemed to be interested in restarting SEA-LHR prior to 9/11. UA could also be successful with a daily SEA-FRA in the summer, going down to 3-4x weekly in the winter.

I'd also like to see UA start a SEA-HNL.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:00 am

Quoting RwSEA (Reply 12):
UA could also be successful with a daily SEA-FRA in the summer, going down to 3-4x weekly in the winter

Unlikely they'll do that, though...considering they can sell seats/earn revenue on the LH PDX-FRA flight. The PDX area has more business ties to Germany than SEA does, a la Nike and Adidas/Reebok, and Freightliner, among others.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:04 am

Quoting Wrighbrothers (Reply 2):
I think that is the main factor , Their are only 2 ( i think) European airlines that serve SEA , BA and SAS

And the always forgotten about Aeroflot...thrice weekly to Moscow.

I've always found it interesting that Seattle has so little European service, yet it has non-stops to Moscow and Copenhagen, of all cities.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:23 am

Regarding the SEA-HKG flights - I think that this city pair that could work, but with a reasonably sized aircraft.

UA flew the route first many years ago, SEA-Tokyo and SEA-Hong Kong were among UA's very first transpacific routes, even before the deal with PANAM whereby UA took over PA's pacific operations. UA was using SEA as its "Asian gateway" and flights from key US cities would arrive in SEA to connect to the Asian services. In consideration of approving the PA/UA Pacific deal, UA was forced to give up its authority on the SEA-Tokyo route (thats another story in itself), and when the SEA-Tokyo route was cancelled, SEA-Hong Kong also went. UA now had pacific routes out of LAX and SFO, so SEA was dropped as an Asian gateway city. (And, as mentoned, UA also later scrapped the SEA-LHR route that was flown for years and years by PA).

NW flew SEA-HKG with DC10s in the mid 1990s (1994 or 1995) - it was one plane service that originated/terminated in ORD I think. The flight was dropped for a couple of reasons - I dont think it ever did as well as NW had hoped, but this was around the time that NW was becoming very focused on building is DET and MSP hubs, and also around the time that NW became very focused on Japan and routing most (if not all) Asian flights via Japan. Remember, for many years SEA was a very important focus city for NW (I remember NW flying DC10s from SEA to SPO and NW's daily 747 from SEA to JFK) and its key gateway to Asia from the continental US.

SEA could probably support more international services to both Asia and Europe (I do not think that Vancouver is such a big factor)......its not happening because the hometown hub airline at SEA is Alaska. I am not being critical of AS, but they simply are not a longhaul airline thus they are not launching flights to Europe and Asia out of SEA. The legacy carriers are unlikely to launch longhaul services out of a nonhub city, thus SEA is dependent on foreign carriers for international services.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):

And the always forgotten about Aeroflot...thrice weekly to Moscow.

I've always found it interesting that Seattle has so little European service, yet it has non-stops to Moscow and Copenhagen, of all cities.

Dont forget SEA-AMS with NW.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:35 am

DID NW Serv HKG-SEA up till a few years ago ???

in Bruce Lee Movie he flew NW to HKG a Few Times this was in the Days before CX intl...
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:55 am

Two points/ questions:

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 4):
EVA Air operates a EWR-SEA-TPE, so it is a split operation between EWR/SEA and TPE

Does EVA Air have rights to carry passengers only on the EWR-SEA sector? Do they?

Also, I would think a second LHR flight would be much more likely/ profitable than a HKG flight. I've flown BA SEA-LHR two summer in a row now, and both times the flights were oversold. I'm starting to wonder why a 777 isn't added or UA picking up the slack. I'd also be interested to know how many people from PDX connect to LHR in SEA and California (I can't figure out where to find that info). Additionally, perhaps PDX or SEA could see a Beijing flight in time for the 2008 Olympics. I would think that flight has a high likelihood, but I could be mistaken.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:01 am

Quoting PDXtriple7 (Reply 17):

Does EVA Air have rights to carry passengers only on the EWR-SEA sector? Do they?

No, that is cabatoge. The US doesn't allow it to passenger airlines. A few years ago, Asiana got fined $750,000 because they were transporting passengers between Guam and the mainland US via Seoul.

Quoting PDXtriple7 (Reply 17):
Additionally, perhaps PDX or SEA could see a Beijing flight in time for the 2008 Olympics. I would think that flight has a high likelihood, but I could be mistaken.

No, they stand virtually no chance. With the limited entry of the US-China market, valuable US-China route authorities, the next of which will be available for March 2007, will not be awarded to Seattle, let alone Portland.
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Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:13 am

No, that is cabatoge. The US doesn't allow it to passenger airlines. A few years ago, Asiana got fined $750,000 because they were transporting passengers between Guam and the mainland US via Seoul.

This was part of the Investigation of the KAL Crash in Guam..AC was Upgraded from Airbus to 747 carry a large Guam Team to Honolulu via Korea also a Violation of Cabotage...US Govt will allow if simular access is granted like PUS-SEL...for US carrier to fly PAX Domestic...
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:14 am

NW tried and failed so I doubt they will ever return. All they can do from Hong Kong in one NRT service!!

TALK OF THE DEVIL!!... CI 015 from Seattle just landed in Hong Kong due to another Typhoon in TPE  

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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:27 am

Quoting StevenUhl777 (Reply 3):
UA used 747SP starting '83 to HKG. Not sure how long it lasted, though.

I remember flying UA SEA-HKG in 88 on the last leg of the family North American adventure. My first and only flight on a 747SP.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:38 am

The DC10 that United used to go to HKG was a DC10-30 they acquired from Canadian. They had it specially fitted with an extra tank for the route, because it was outside of the usual operational range of the aircraft.

In the beginning, United had no problem making HKG nonstop, because the flights were not full. However, as things ran on, United started to fill the flights to capacity and the first winter they started running into strong headwinds across the Pacific, they started running into problems. They started having to make operational stops at Okinawa. First they were occasional. Then they because rather routine. In the opposite direction, eastbound, HKG-SEA was nonstop all the time, no sweat, about 11 to 11.5 hours with a real strong tail wind.

When United bought Pan Am's Pacific routes in the late 80's, they substituted the DC-10 for the 747SP. That aircraft did much better for United, because it could take whatever the Pacific threw at it and it made it nonstop, every time. I flew it eastbound from HKG-SEA and we made it in 11 hr 12 min. A nice easy ride. A little turbulence over the dateline, but on the downhill leg over the Gulf of Alaska, it was clear sailing, beautiful weather and the grandeur of the Canadian Rockies as we approached Vancouver Island and on into Seattle.

At some point, the route started not being profitable for United. So they pulled it down. They kept Tokyo for some time, but then they eventually pulled it as well. This was also about the same time they pulled the SEA-LON route, which had been flown for many,many years by Pan Am, then taken over by United. So, United has removed all its internationaly flying from Seattle.

It has only been within the last few years that United has reinstated its service to Tokyo, with the advent of 777 flying across the Pacific. The route is doing quite well and will continue to do well. However, I don't foresee United placing an aircraft on SEA-HKG for some time.

For now, if we want HKG on United, its down to SFO and then back up here and over the pond.

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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:07 am

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 22):
At some point, the route started not being profitable for United. So they pulled it down. They kept Tokyo for some time, but then they eventually pulled it as well. This was also about the same time they pulled the SEA-LON route, which had been flown for many,many years by Pan Am, then taken over by United. So, United has removed all its internationaly flying from Seattle.

Slightly backwards order. As part of the purchase of PA's Pacific route system, UA was required to give up the SEA-NRT route. After a lengthy procedure, in which the DOT overturned the initial recommendation to give the route to AA, CO was awarded the route. UA had threatened that if they didn't have the draw of the NRT route, they wouldn't be able to sustain the HKG route. They actually did maintain the HKG route for awhile after NRT was transferred to CO, but they eventually moved the frequency to SFO.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 12:25 pm

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 22):
It has only been within the last few years that United has reinstated its service to Tokyo, with the advent of 777 flying across the Pacific.

Actually, the route was started in the mid to late 90's with the 747-400 (not due to the advent of 777 Pacific flying).

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Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:22 pm

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 22):
The DC10 that United used to go to HKG was a DC10-30 they acquired from Canadian. They had it specially fitted with an extra tank for the route, because it was outside of the usual operational range of the aircraft.

That's right...I remember now seeing a DC-10-30 at N1 or N2 back in '83, and think it was headed for either NRT or HKG.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:47 pm

Took UA SEA-HKG back in the very early 80's. Remember very well. DC-10-10. Headwinds slowed us down. Had to divert to NGO to refuel. The good old days!
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:14 pm

Probably a typo...meant DC-10-30...fingers got ahead of the brain!
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 3:52 pm

I was wondering if the two 747-222Bs that were delivered to United in (I think) 1987 were meant origininally for the SEA-HKG route. I know they ended up pulling SEA-HKG down as a result of the PAC day acquisition, but I would guess they ordered those two airplanes before the Pan Am deal was complete. They were relatively late model 747-200s, likely JT9D-7Q or even JT9D-7R4 powered airplanes. NW used similar vintage airplanes for JFK-NRT with full uplift both ways.

United sold them to Northwest as freighters in 1998 I believe. When I was starting as a flight attendant at United in 1998 we still had the section in our manuals for the 747-222Bs. I believe by early 1999 we were ordered to remove it.

Does anyone know the history of this aircraft purchase?
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:11 pm

Didn't Finnair operate a DC-10 to SEA years ago on a HEL-SEA-LAX route? Was SEA used just as a fuel stop or was there actually a market there?
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:43 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 14):
I've always found it interesting that Seattle has so little European service, yet it has non-stops to Moscow and Copenhagen, of all cities

Seattle has a very large Scandanavian population, hence the SAS flights to CPH.

Quoting N200WN (Reply 29):
Didn't Finnair operate a DC-10 to SEA years ago on a HEL-SEA-LAX route?

Yep, they sure did.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:25 am

I wonder how is the cargo demand between HKG and SEA.
Maybe that demand could sustain a B747 Pax/Cargo 3-5 times per week if not daily.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:16 am

Quoting Baw716 (Reply 22):
For now, if we want HKG on United, its down to SFO and then back up here and over the pond.

Or connect through NRT and not backtrack at all.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:47 am

I flew that DC10 in 1983. As I remember United had no clue how to operate long haul flights in Asia, especially regarding service. The flight from Hong Kong to Seattle was nice enough, but the return leg (I lived in Indonesia at the time) needed work. I remember them putting my parents in the smoking section, and I was one row from the smoking section (on a DC-10 to Asia that was not good). They upgraded my parents, but didn't move me (I was 13 at the time), and wouldn't let me walk up to talk to them (again not a good move). The air got really stale, and I was definately ready to get off the plane.

United was also responsible for putting us up in a hotel in Hong Kong, because we had to connect to Singapore the next morning. CX put us in a very nice hotel on Hong Kong Island. UA put us in a hotel on skid row that probably had hourly rates! The unfortunate thing for United was that they had the best deal that year to visit the United States from Asia. A lot of Americans living in Asia flew United that year. They did such a poor job that none of the ex-pats would fly them again (even after they got the Pan Am routes).
Ofcourse we wouldn't fly Pan Am before that, so there wasn't a big difference.

Anyway, there maybe enough demand for a SEA-HKG flight, but the only way it will happen is if CX starts service to Seattle (and they have a lot of flights to YVR). I don't think UA or NW will start service to Hong Kong and compete against themselves in SFO and NRT.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:40 pm

Why does aeroflot fly to Seattle, wouldn't it be smarter to serve YVR instead. Is there really demand for this flight? There is already a flight from LAX, that covers most of the south west, and west-central areas, so the SEA flightl seems sort of redundant. I know SU serves JFK, IAD (continues to JFK), MIA, LAX, and YYZ. I wish SU would expand it's serve. Does anyone forsee this happening, especially if SU joins skyteam? Will they fly to Skyteam hubs? I think SU has the potential of transferring many immigrants to the steppes of Asia and parts of central, eastern europe, and western asia. Can't wait till the new SVO-3 opens. Scheduled for end of 2007.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Sun Aug 07, 2005 2:21 pm

Quoting Hjulicher (Reply 34):
Why does aeroflot fly to Seattle, wouldn't it be smarter to serve YVR instead. Is there really demand for this flight? There is already a flight from LAX, that covers most of the south west, and west-central areas, so the SEA flightl seems sort of redundant. I know SU serves JFK, IAD (continues to JFK), MIA, LAX, and YYZ. I wish SU would expand it's serve. Does anyone forsee this happening, especially if SU joins skyteam? Will they fly to Skyteam hubs? I think SU has the potential of transferring many immigrants to the steppes of Asia and parts of central, eastern europe, and western asia. Can't wait till the new SVO-3 opens. Scheduled for end of 2007.

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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:23 am

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 15):
I remember NW flying DC10s from SEA to SPO and NW's daily 747 from SEA to JFK

What is "SPO"?
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:24 am

Quoting Stirling (Reply 36):

What is "SPO"?

Woops, sorry, Spokane, Washington, better known as GEG.......my error and apologies.
 
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:28 am

Quoting Hjulicher (Reply 34):
Why does aeroflot fly to Seattle, wouldn't it be smarter to serve YVR instead. Is there really demand for this flight?

Huge Russian community in Seattle, much larger than Vancouver's.
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RE: Hongkong - Seattle Non Stop

Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:44 pm

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 38):
Huge Russian community in Seattle, much larger than Vancouver's

While Russian speakers may number more than Vancouver BC, I wouldn't call it "Huge".
Large Russian communities are a common trait of the major metropolitan centers of the West Coast. (Plus the Great Lakes Region, Northeast, and South Florida.)

Seattle being an Aeroflot city has more to do with geography than with anything else.
Based on just this population segment, Portland could make a case for Aeroflot to serve the city with a flight...only 555 fewer people. Sacramento too, with just 1,557 less than Seattle/Tacoma.

Seattle's ties to Alaska, and Alaska's ties to Russia make a better explanation; it being the closest major city to Russia in the Lower 48.

On the West Coast...Metro Areas with Russian speaking populations according to the US Census Bureau: (Those persons claiming Russian as a first or second language. Not sure if a Russian Community would have that many non-Russian speakers in it.)

1. Los Angeles/Orange/Inland Empire 49,600
2. San Francisco Bay Area 39,365
3. Seattle/Tacoma 18,114
4. Portland/Vancouver 17,559
5. Sacramento 16,557

Seattle's community is very spread out, mostly in the 98008 zip code and north in Snohomish County.
Denser concentrations exist in:

Portland's east side, south I-205 area, 97071 zip code, and east Vancouver.

San Francisco's Sunset, Geary neighborhoods, east of I-280, and Mountain View/Sunnyvale.

Los Angeles is almost entirely centered on Hollywood, Glendale and Burbank.

Sacramento's Russian population is West of the River and out near the I-80 Split.

All this information can be found at www.mla.org/census
A great website for those curious about Language use in the United States.

Quoting ER757 (Reply 30):
Seattle has a very large Scandanavian population, hence the SAS flights to CPH.

Scandinavian language speakers ranked by state: CA, MN, NY, WA, FL, TX.
But only two of those states have flights to CPH. California alone has almost 3 times as many as WA. Which tells me it is more than just a expatriate-community-thing that dictates these flights.
While Seattle might have a larger than average Scandinavian population, less than 5,000 residents tells me SK flights to CPH must be for another reason.....LA has 6,500 and the Twin Cities about 4,000.

This should also dispel the perpetual myth that MSP is over-run with Swedes, Norwegians, and Finns; and why doesn't NW or SK have any flights? Truth is, they might have more than other cities, but it's a very small population.
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