SBE727
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F100 UK-Canaries

Fri Aug 05, 2005 4:59 am

Hi There,

Anyone tell me if the F100 could make it from the uk - canaries (eg:LGW-TFS)
or is that stretching it to the limits.
What other 100-120 seater aircraft could that route and at what seat rate compared to other aircraft.

Many Thx

SBE727
 
pelican
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F100 UK-Canaries

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:33 am

No, the F100 can't make it. The F100 has a range of about 1700 nm but the distance of LGW-TFS is 1809 nm.

pelican
 
Orion737
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:42 am

No deffo out of Fokker range. The 1-11 of Laker used to make it, just!
 
GVBIG
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Fri Aug 05, 2005 6:43 am

737-200 can make it...
Booked it, Packed it, f*cked off!
 
Orion737
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:14 am

Oh yes, the 732 can indeed. It plyed the UK-Canaries for years with BY, MON, AE and numerous others. Very handy for regional flights to Canaries was the 732.

Ithad the range but not too many seats.
 
Capital146
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:38 am

Quoting SBE727 (Thread starter):
What other 100-120 seater aircraft could that route and at what seat rate compared to other aircraft.

Discounting old, obsolete aircraft, the 318 and 736 I'm pretty sure could make it, plus maybe the EMB-195? The latter i'm not certain of, though I know FlyBe liked them for, amongst other things, having better range than their current 146's on flights to Spain, albeit a much shorter distance than UK-Canaries.
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aviopic
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:45 am

Quoting Pelican (Reply 1):
No, the F100 can't make it. The F100 has a range of about 1700 nm but the distance of LGW-TFS is 1809 nm.

That's the baseline range(1680nm) but not much have been delivered in that configuration. It all depends on the options chosen at the time like engines and tanks.
The F100 range is actually up to 2300nm in a normal pax config.
There is even one F70(KAF308) that flies Nairobi - London non stop.
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legacy135
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:17 am

I often can see in range discussions in the a.net that people plan on quite though distances. Be aware that Eurocontrol ma reroute your flight according their needs and somewhat like 1680 Nm can quickly result in 1800 or more. Even for this you need a reserve but also for departure and approach as this may include a couple of turns.

What we do in basic planning to see if a flight could be possible or not and to get a cost estimate is like this:

Flight time 1 hour add 30% to the total
Flight time 2 hours add 20% to the total
Flight time 3 hours or more add 10 % to the total

This formula worked out pretty well over the years and covered about all needed for departure and approach plus the deviations en route.
 
irelayer
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RE: F100 UK-Canaries

Sat Aug 06, 2005 4:35 am

Quoting Aviopic (Reply 6):
There is even one F70(KAF308) that flies Nairobi - London non stop.

That must be a helluva flight heh.

-IR