MAH4546
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Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:59 pm

The FAA has upgraded Trinidad & Tobago to Category One status. This will allow BWIA to expand their US schedules, add more flights, use their A340 to the US, and restore their codeshare agreement with United (if they are interested), among other things. Here is a news article:

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/index.pl/article_news?id=93625414

Would not surprise me to see them (re)-introduce new routes from their current US gateways, such as Miami-Tobago.

In the US, they fly to Miami, New York City-JFK, and Washington-Dulles.
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:54 pm

It's a great notice but I'm very dissapointed.  Sad BWIA only will use it's Boeing 737-800 to fly to MIA, NYC and WAS. Another cities in the USA will fly in a codeshare ith UA.  Smile
 
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Fri Aug 05, 2005 5:58 pm

POS has a great terminal, possibly the best in the Caribbean...good news for BWIA, which is a good airline!


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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:20 pm

Ah, good news at last for T&T. Category 1 - this will allow BW its long-overdue expansion of services to the USA. Let us hope that they work hard to maintain that valued status.

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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:01 pm

Well, maybe now ANU can get a non-stop to MIA.
 
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Fri Aug 05, 2005 10:02 pm

Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 2):
POS has a great terminal, possibly the best in the Caribbean...good news for BWIA, which is a good airline!

Part of the fun of flying into the Caribbean is having the tiki hut style terminal, air stairs and using the runway as a taxiway.
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:57 am

BW has been known to undergo financial difficulties lately, getting Trinidad & Tobago in FAA Cat. 1 is an step in the right direction to improve BW.
BW rely alot on Leisure and VFR traffic, so unless they can come with good feeder traffic from destinations in South America (I don't mean GEO or PBM) the choices and frequencies for new US destinations service will be quite limited.
Maybe we could see BW in BOS (or PVD), ORD, RDU, DTW, CLE, PIT, ATL, MCO, TPA, FLL, IAH; also BW moving from IAD to BWI (if UA codeshare doesn't work and need to spend less on airportfees.).
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:49 am

Quoting 2travel2know (Reply 6):
Maybe we could see BW in BOS (or PVD), ORD, RDU, DTW, CLE, PIT, ATL, MCO, TPA, FLL, IAH; also BW moving from IAD to BWI (if UA codeshare doesn't work and need to spend less on airportfees.).

I said it before, and I will say it again.. in MY opinion.. most Caribbean airlines would do very well if they went south to their cousins in Brazil and bought some E70/75/90/95 for their US flights.. then they could do more feeding without having to rely on filling a bunch of large aircraft.. and save those aircraft for other long-haul or high capacity destinations..

If Air Jamaica, Cayman, BWIA.. got some E75 and flew them to RDU, CLE, TPA, MSY, BNA, etc.. and use E95 for PVD, DTW, MDW, PHX, etc.. they could definitely get some good loads and the majority of those flights could be filled with O&D traffic alone..

but that is just my opinion..
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 1:55 am

Quoting ERJ170 (Reply 7):

If Air Jamaica, Cayman, BWIA.. got some E75 and flew them to RDU, CLE, TPA, MSY, BNA, etc.. and use E95 for PVD, DTW, MDW, PHX, etc.. they could definitely get some good loads and the majority of those flights could be filled with O&D traffic alone..

It is not that easy.

Firt of all, Trindiad & Tobago is not a vacation island. Hence, limited US service that is focused on business traffic and VFR demand. Americans don't vacation in the Trinidad.

Secondly, the Cayman Airways are an upsacle, limited appeal resort. Few American visit the Cayman islands, they can't afford it.

Air Jamaica is the only one that could possibly make a go of it...but they are having enough troubles as is. They are even ending Boston service next month.
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:08 am

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
Firt of all, Trindiad & Tobago is not a vacation island.

While Trinidad is not, Tobago is. Although I do have to agree that it is not that big with Americans as it is with Europeans.

I think that BW could run a 340 to JFK at peak seasons.
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:40 am

the ironic thing is, Cat2 was actually protecting BWIA.

Cat1 could infact, work against it.

When we were Cat2, no new airline could have been started to fly from Trinidad to the US.

That's no longer a factor with Cat1, which means BWIA is now open to direct local competition. This can be an opportunity for the Gubment to close it down.

but that's being negative and I don't want to see BWIA go belly up at all.
Let's hope it's international brand value keeps it alive.
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:59 am

Inbound, who would start another airline in T&T to fly to the US? Do remember that Air Caribbean tried to do exactly that and failed miserably - in fact its use of inadequately hushkitted 732's to MIA was one of the reasons T&T was downgraded in the first place.

BW will survive and thrive and will certainly use the A340 to JFK at peak periods to maximise revenue.

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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 5:04 am

BW used to serve both BWI and BOS.

Flights from BWI always did well, dispite flying BWI-BGI-POS on an MD80.

I wonder if BW will start non-stop US to Tobago flights?

Nice new Terminal in POS, close to a deep water port, cruise ship business
could do very well.
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RE: Trinidad & Tobago Back To Cat. I Status

Sat Aug 06, 2005 7:03 am

Quoting AA767400 (Reply 9):

While Trinidad is not, Tobago is. Although I do have to agree that it is not that big with Americans as it is with Europeans.

True, but, as you said, Americans do not flock to Tobago. It is virtually unknown among American citizens, but loved by Austrians and Brits.

Quoting FI642 (Reply 12):
I wonder if BW will start non-stop US to Tobago flights?

They already fly IAD-TAB, and a weekly MIA-TAB flight is almost definite.
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