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FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sat Aug 06, 2005 9:00 pm

FR is to end its daily, 738-operated service from STN to KLU on the 29th
October. This adds to the news yesterday that the airline is to end its daily, 738-operated service from STN to BDS on the 2nd November (see separate thread created by me). The evidence for the termination of its STN-KLU route is that no details appear on its website for this route after the 29th October; for STN-BDS, no information is available after the 2nd November. While this is disappointing news, it is good, in my mind at least, that rationalisation, i.e. the elimination of 'waste' or unprofitable routes, is occurring, thereby assisting in strengthening its position still further.
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:17 pm

FR considered dropping STN-Haugesund (Norway) some weeks ago, according to a newspaper if loads didn't pick up. The route has gone from great loads to mediocre, so wonder what will happen...
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:41 pm

Hi

As far as I know KLU airport had a 3-year contract with Ryanair which is now ending. Ryanair got subsidies and rebates from the Kärnten regional government and from KLU airport and Ryanair now decided that they wanted even more so KLU decided not to renew the contract.

They are currently in talks with easyJet and HLX to keep up the London route.

I am not blaming Ryanair since it always needs two parties to sign a contract.

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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:43 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 2):
Ryanair now decided that they wanted even more so KLU decided not to renew the contract.

Proof that they "wanted even more" ? The fact is, as always - we simply don't know the reasons. So we can merely speculate.
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:51 pm

There was a "public" dispute in the local KLU media about that. The government said that they could start its own airline with the money they need to pay Ryanair for only one route...

Again, I am not blaming Ryanair. It is their business and honestly I think their business model is amazing. But it also shows that this model sometimes results in an own goal since I am sure that someone will start KLU-London- even with no subsidies.

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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:53 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 2):
As far as I know KLU airport had a 3-year contract with Ryanair which is now ending. Ryanair got subsidies and rebates from the Kärnten regional government and from KLU airport and Ryanair now decided that they wanted even more so KLU decided not to renew the contract.

and FR is criticizing that other airlines like AZ get subsidies, another fact that the BigManager of this company is more than strange...
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:10 pm

Quoting Pe@rson (Thread starter):
FR is to end its daily, 738-operated service from STN to KLU on the 29th
October.

Word on this had been out for quite a while now.
While officially only the KLU - STN route is affected, I wonder if this will have any effect on the KLU - HHN route (which is scheduled to continue)...
Maybe, if FR´s bigboss M´OL gets very angry, he will also pull the plug from the KLU-HHN-route ?
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:11 pm

Quoting RJ100 (Reply 2):
As far as I know KLU airport had a 3-year contract with Ryanair which is now ending. Ryanair got subsidies and rebates from the Kärnten regional government and from KLU airport and Ryanair now decided that they wanted even more so KLU decided not to renew the contract.



Quoting RJ100 (Reply 4):
There was a "public" dispute in the local KLU media about that. The government said that they could start its own airline with the money they need to pay Ryanair for only one route...

This is another proof for what we've been discussing about Ryanair and MOL in the other thread last night.......
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:17 pm

As far as I know also the HHN-KLU route will end on the 30th October.

Despite any comment about subsidies, I could only add some real fact, that both routes had always bad yield and HHN also poor loads. It seems to me a good reason to axe a route....
 
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RE: FR To End Its Daily STN-KLU Service On 29th Oct

Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:32 pm

Quoting Airblue (Reply 8):
As far as I know also the HHN-KLU route will end on the 30th October.

Tnx for updating me! It´s supported by FR´s timetable.
That will leave HLX as the only LCC at KLU.
IIRC they started to fly to KLU in SEP-2003; did they also get discounts that will expire after 3 years ?
Having been on two roundtrips HAJ - KLU - HAJ and having seen some other flights depart/arrive at KLU, the load factors seem to be more or less okay on all german destinations of HLX ...

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