whiskeyhotel
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AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:27 am

Later this month I'll be taking AF CDG-IAH in Y. I have ST ElitePlus (CO Plat) and a President's Club card, and was wondering which lounges those would give me access to at CDG. Neither the CO website or the SkyTeam website were particularly helpful, but the SkyTeam website listed about 7 different lounges at CDG. Was wondering which of those would be accessible.
 
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 4:31 am

If you are a SkyTeam Elite Plus you can use the any of the L'espace affaires lounges when you fly internationally. They should be able to let you in with your CO Plat card.

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B4REAL
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:49 am

Quoting WindowSeat (Reply 1):
If you are a SkyTeam Elite Plus you can use the any of the L'espace affaires lounges when you fly internationally. They should be able to let you in with your CO Plat card.

I don't believe this to be correct. For the AF lounges @ CDG, you'll need to be travelling Biz to get in. SkyTeam Elite/Elite Plus or President's Club won't allow you in.
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Leskova
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:05 am

Quoting B4real (Reply 2):
I don't believe this to be correct. For the AF lounges @ CDG, you'll need to be travelling Biz to get in. SkyTeam Elite/Elite Plus or President's Club won't allow you in.

Formally probably correct, but I found some of AF's lounge staff (I think this was in Terminal 2E - wherever TAM's flights leave) to be quite lenient on the regulations; they let me in with my red TAM Fidelidade card, even though I was booked in Economy class, and TAM isn't even a Skyteam member.

On the other hand, another lounge (in Terminal 2D) actually denied me lounge access even though I had said Fidelidade card with me (the one that gave me lounge access in the other terminal), and I had arrived on TAM in Business Class - just my connecting flight back to Germany was in Y class (because AF only flies an ERJ145 on that route - there simply is no C class on that one, or at least there wasn't back then).

I'd say simply ask - the worst that can happen is that they'll say no.

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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:22 am

Whiskeyhotel -

I'm a oneworld junkie, so not personally familiar with AF or ST's policies. I did find the following information on a FlyerTalk forum. Take it at face value, but perhaps it can help. Obviously you should call AF for the final word!!

Quote:
Access policy:

You can use Air France´s and SkyTeam´s lounges if:
* you fly in L´Espace Première (First) or L´Espace Affaires (Business),
* you are a Flying Blue Gold or Platinum, SkyTeam Elite Plus, or Club 2000 member,
* you travel as a first class or business class passenger on an international SkyTeam flight.

Tempo Challenge passengers have access to lounges at CDG2.

List of Air France lounges

- Paris CDG2 A East: Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 B: non smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 C (Arrival Lounge landside): Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 C (Business): Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 C (First): Smoking, Internet+WiFi
- Paris CDG2 D: Smoking, Internet+WiFi
- Paris CDG2 E (Business): two lounges, depends on boarding gate, info to come
- Paris CDG2 F1: Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 F2 (Business): Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
- Paris CDG2 F2 (First): Smoking, Internet+WiFi+Shower
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jouy31
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 6:34 am

As a SkyTeam Elite Plus member departing on a SkyTeam operated international flight, you will have access to all business class departures lounges.

Regarding the specific case of CDG, you will have access to the business class departures lounge in the terminal your flight leaves from, in your case, Terminal 2C. It is located airside, one level down.
 
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:00 am

Quoting Leskova (Reply 3):
Formally probably correct, but I found some of AF's lounge staff (I think this was in Terminal 2E - wherever TAM's flights leave) to be quite lenient on the regulations; they let me in with my red TAM Fidelidade card, even though I was booked in Economy class, and TAM isn't even a Skyteam member.

I'm red fidelity too and in fact my big claim against TAM: they won't give access to their international lounges to it's top customers. Seems there are some rumors that they are thinking on a new category (for 100,000 points on a year), which could be Platinum.

Let's see. Interesting you have been allowed to AF lounge, JJ and AF relationship nowadays is not so strong as two years ago, you can't accrual miles nowadays flying AF to JJ or vice-versa.

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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 8:21 am

My advice would be, "Don't bother". My experience of Air France lounges has been unremittingly grim (CDG2, SIN, NRT, JFK). They are smoke filled, over crowded dives, with few working facilities.

In most airports I prefer to sit in a cafe rather than bother with the Air France lounge. If you are used to OneWorld (QF, BA and CX) these lounges are a bad joke.
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B4REAL
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 9:26 am

Quoting Ozglobal (Reply 7):
My experience of Air France lounges has been unremittingly grim (CDG2, SIN, NRT, JFK). They are smoke filled, over crowded dives, with few working facilities.

I disagree. I've found CDG's lounges quite nice. I've visited the ones in 2D and 2E
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jouy31
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 1:43 pm

The CDG2E main lounge is very pleasant and probably one the best AF lounges.

AF lounges are not as good as The Wing or the Pier in HKG. They are usually better than most US airlines lounges (except for First Class lounges) or LH SEN or FTL lounges. I definitely prefer spending my time there than in a gate area or a cafe in the terminal

[Edited 2005-08-07 06:48:44]
 
whiskeyhotel
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RE: AF CDG Lounge Access Question

Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:15 pm

Cheers for the info...much more helpful than the ST website. Am looking forward to my first AF flight. Just need KE, OK and AZ to complete my own personal survey of ST airlines (not counting the new associate members).

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