allstarflyer
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What Are The Orders Now On 787?

Mon Aug 08, 2005 10:29 am

Just a simple question for the more dedicated enthusiasts out there - what is the order count on the 787 so far? After reading through this thread about Avianca:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2254565/

I was wondering what the actual count is on the whole. This is what I got after sifting through Boeing's website for press releases on the 787:

-VN - 4
-JL - 30 (with option for 20 more)
-BV - 4
-DP - 6
-FE - 20
-NW - up to 68
-AC - up to 60
-KE - up to 20
-FI - 2
-ET - 10
-CO - 10
-NH - 50
-60 aircraft going among six Chinese carriers - FM, MF, MU, CZ, CA, HU (is it a simple 10 for each?)

I want to know whether or not I have the count right - 196 firm deliveries and up to 168 more?

And then throwing around a couple of more airlines, this, that Qantas is considering them: http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2242741/
And, of course, there was nothing in Qantas' website about this in their releases - or in their fleet developments. http://www.qantas.com.au/info/about/company/fleetDevelopments

I thought I had read (here in CivAv?) that Emirates was considering them or will be a strong customer, but it looked like they the A380 in their plans. http://www.emirates.com/usa/AboutEmi...EmiratesStory/TheEmiratesStory.asp

I really look forward to traveling on this aircraft, and I've wondered who's in line for this (I searched CivAv under "787" for most of this month and under "787 customers" from back before June of this year), and I can't find a thread that shows who the customers are(though, I'm sure I'll be able to keep track through Boeing's site - but it's more fun here, with the projections that float all over). And I'm wondering what the estimated break even is for Boeing on the 787, although, it seems like they'll be able to hit whatever that number is.

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RE: What Are The Orders Now On 787?

Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:35 am

From Boeing Website: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7/programfacts.html

Firm orders and by which airlines

143 – ANA at 50; Air New Zealand at 2; Blue Panorama at 4; First Choice at 6; Icelandair at 2; Northwest Airlines at 18; JAL at 30; unidentified customer at 6; Korean Air at 10; Ethiopian Airlines at 10; Continental Airlines at 5

Announced orders and by which airlines

252 – ANA at 50; Air New Zealand at 2; Blue Panorama at 4; First Choice at 6; Primaris at 20; JAL at 30; Continental Airlines at 10; Vietnam Airlines at 4; Air China, China Eastern Airlines, China Southern Airlines, Hainan Airlines, Shanghai Airlines and Xiamen Airlines at 60; Ethiopian Airlines at 10; Icelandair at 2; Korean Air at 10; Air India at 20; and Northwest Airlines at 18; unidentified customer at 6
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RE: What Are The Orders Now On 787?

Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:41 am

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 1):
From Boeing Website: http://www.boeing.com/commercial/7e7....html

Thanks. I was looking at the wrong page - I was trying to gather the info from the press releases. I must have missed (among other things) the firm orders from NW (18? - I'll look at that release again).

And there it was on the next paragraph.

Edited for content.

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[Edited 2005-08-08 04:43:08]
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RE: What Are The Orders Now On 787?

Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:54 am

And the breakdown for the different China carriers will not be known for a long while (state owned, so nothing in stone) but China did say that they wanted at least 1 787 for EACH carrier before the Olympics start, and B said it would be doable, which is why I doubt we'll be seeing A380 style delays for this plane (of course unforeseen problems are just that, unforeseen). No flames please, just stating my opinion.
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