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Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:14 pm

I posted this earlier today but unfortunately copied the article directly. A.Net rightly deleted the posted and informed me in case we were in breach of any copyright laws. My apologies to the a.net team.

Anyhow, I repost this as it is interesting (unfortunately for those who don't understand French it's only in French) with a link to the page in question ("La Depêche du Midi" the local Toulouse newspaper.

Numerous articles on the following:

a. Today the A380 has passed the 200 hour mark of flight tests. Also makes reference to delays in the testing process.
b. Says the 380 will be in Australia in December for high temperature tests.
c. Airport preparations for the 380.
d. Short article on Boeing's current momentum, with e fresh new order for the 787 and the positive outlook for the 747 Adv. ... Good to see the local TLS press is open-minded!


The link: http://www.ladepeche.fr/aff_art.asp?ref=200508090096&rub=fra&doss=2
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:38 pm

In case somebody want to read it, here is a translator website:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/tr
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Tue Aug 09, 2005 10:55 pm

Excerpt from the above French article translated into German:

Es ist der Test des Starts mit minimaler Geschwindigkeit, der diese Phase da einige Tage an Istres geschlossen hat, im Laufe dessen A380 sich aus dem tarmac mit der schwächsten Geschwindigkeit herausgerissen hat. Der durch einen Schuh geschützte Schwanz des Flugzeugs, rieb dann auf der Spur.

Sorry for exceptionally posting this in German, it is just more fun in German than in English. You don't miss anything otherwise.

And thanks for suggesting Babelfish anyway; the translation it gives is definitely better than nothing for people not speaking French.
 
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Tue Aug 09, 2005 11:51 pm

Interesting to know.

Second A380 (MSN 004) to fly only in October... The third one to fly (MSN 002) will also fly in October, but just to Hamburg for cabin fittings.

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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:14 am

Hope you're finding the article interesting. Thanks for the translation link MidnightMike, unfortunately as I'm very busy today, I didn't have time to translate it.
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 12:31 am

Thanks Toulouse - though I'd hate to tell you how long ago I learned French, and how rusty it is.

Thing that struck me was how badly they need another aeroplane or two. They are only 200 hours into a 2,500-hour programme, and they are not due to get another aircraft until October.

I can shed some light on the tailstrike (tearing up the tarmac) thing too. Believe it or not, it's probably normal! One of the things test pilots have to do is establish the minimum speed at which an aeroplane will rotate/take off; and the only way to do that is to try takeoffs at lower and lower speeds, until finally you go too far......
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:09 pm

It's coming to Australia? Any references as to where and when?

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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 2:45 pm

Goodbye, it says (third story) that hot-weather testing (takeoffs and landings) will be done in Oz at the end of December. They want temperatures of 40C, so that suggests somewhere like Darwin or Cairns (unless we all get a really hot Christmas!).

However, it also says that these tests are usually done in Tunisia. Part of the intention of coming here instead is to try to placate Qantas about the delivery delays. So maybe it will pay courtesy visits to Sydney and/or Melbourne as well.

Come to think of it, they may not be able to do takeoffs and landings anywhere else; as far as I know SYD/MEL are the only airports that are widening their runways/taxiways for the A380?

I hope someone's told them that 40C temperatures don't occur ALL the time in SE Australia, even in summer. Here in Melbourne it's just as likely to be about 15!
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:56 pm

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 7):
I hope someone's told them that 40C temperatures don't occur ALL the time in SE Australia, even in summer. Here in Melbourne it's just as likely to be about 15!

It also said that they will do cold weather testing in Irkutsk in Siberia where it will be "-50 degrees." I worked in Irkutsk for nine months a few years ago, and the coldest temperature ever during that period was -38. Normal winter temp was around -20, but some days were even warmer.
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:25 pm

NAV20,

They won't go to Tunisia for the test flights with high temperature simply because in December, in Tunisia, the highest temperature they can expect reaches barely the 24°/25°C ...
 
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:00 pm

Boeing did their high temp testing of 777 at Alice Springs. No idea if it can take the 380 though.
Temps of 40+ are pretty reliable at that time of year.

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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:08 pm

Just took the time to look up the official figures.
>40c not that reliable after all.

Mean daily Max for December 35.3c
Mean Daily Max for January 36.3c

Days greater than 40c December 3.9
Days greater than 40c January 5.7

Highest Max December 44.2c
Highest Max January 45.2c

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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:53 pm

Quoting Goodbye (Reply 6):
It's coming to Australia? Any references as to where and when?

Here is the program:

A380 MSN 001 will be in SYD for Qantas 85th Anniversary normally 16th November 2005.

Then it will go to the Dubai airshow 20-24th Novemebr.

It will also be in Singapore airshow and Farnborough airshow next year.

Hot weather campaign will be in Australia but performed by MSN 004, at the end of december.
It will then go to La Paz for high altitude.

Too many infos to put on here unfortunately...
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:00 pm

One quick question to french speakers, sorry to be slightly off-topic ...

How do say A380 in french, is it "A-trois quatre-vingts" or "A-trois cents quatre-vingts" or "A-trois-huit-zero" ?
 
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:03 pm

Alice is pretty reliable (i.e. bl**dy hot) in January. The only long runway (12/30) is only 8,000 feet, though. And the verges will need sealing, lots of dust.
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:11 pm

Quoting NAV20 (Reply 7):
Come to think of it, they may not be able to do takeoffs and landings anywhere else;

Darwin thinks they can handle it. And the weather would be warm enough.

http://www.darwinairport.com.au/DIAirside.htm

I could almost persuade myself to spend some ackers on a trip there to see the beaut.

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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:22 pm

Quoting KEno (Reply 13):
A-trois cents quatre-vingts"

That's what I've heard most frequently here around Toulouse. Hope that helps.
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RE: Some A380 News From Todays Toulouse Press

Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:57 pm

KEno, Reply#13

I never heard "A - Trois/Huit/Zero".
We never say it that way in French, for any airbus type.You can hear it sometimes only for the B747 "Sept/Quatre/Sept".

Most of "normal" people say "A - Trois cent quatre vingt", "A - Trois cent quarante" etc...

In the Airlines/Aviation industry, it's more "A - Trois / quatre vingt" "A - Trois/Quarante", "A - Trois/Trente" etc...

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