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Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:25 am

As of the end of July, 2005, Boeing has taken orders for 5917 B737's since the first order by Lufthansa back on February 16th, 1965. New orders as of August 11th have increased the total to 5956. Sometime in the next few days or weeks, the 6,000th B737 will have hit the order books. I wonder if Boeing will make a big splash with this event? Certainly it qualifies as a mighty significant story in aircraft manufacturing. Hopefully, we will see a big celebration! Any thoughts?
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:35 am

I wonder will the airline who buys it have marked 6000th Boeing 737 on it like SQ did with the 1000th Boeing 747.


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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:39 am

6,000 airplanes! Wow!!!!
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:41 am

No 5000 will be 737NG line 1868 (as 3132 737 classics have been built, series 100 to 500 and they started numbering at 1 again with the Next Generations.
Given the fact they are now around line 1770 and 19 being built a month, I expect the 5000th 737 to be delivered around december. Unfortunately Boeings production planning isn't known yet, I bet on a high profile customer like Ryanair or Southwest eager for a small ceremony getting nr 5000.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:47 am

Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
I expect the 5000th 737 to be delivered around december.

I wasn't referring to deliveries, just to orders received.
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:57 am

Quoting Dhefty (Reply 4):
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 3):
I expect the 5000th 737 to be delivered around december.

I wasn't referring to deliveries, just to orders received.

Still, the statistic provided by MEA-707 is impressive as well - 6000 soon to be ordered, 5000 soon to be built... wow.

Can't say I'm personally all to thrilled about it though, the B737 is the one and only plane that I try to avoid whenever possible; don't mind any other plane by any manufacturer, but I've never liked the B737... can't even say why, I just don't like it.

Nonetheless - impressive history!

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:02 am

>> I bet on a high profile customer like Ryanair or Southwest eager for a small ceremony getting nr 5000.

I would agree with WN. They've made the 737 the icon of LCC opperators.
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:13 am

When the time comes I think major Congrats are in order for the Boeing Company. Surely an unbelievable achievement and testament to the venerable 737.

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:29 am

Quoting Leskova (Reply 5):
but I've never liked the B737... can't even say why, I just don't like it.

I don't like it either. It's been around for so long that it's boring. For some reason I think all 737s are ugly.........I don't know why

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:43 am

Quoting MainMAN (Reply 8):
Quoting Leskova (Reply 5):
but I've never liked the B737... can't even say why, I just don't like it.

I don't like it either. It's been around for so long that it's boring. For some reason I think all 737s are ugly.........I don't know why

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:45 am

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

couldn't have said it better!
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:04 am

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

Nope, never cared for the 737 myself!
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:19 am

It sure is boring and sure as heck is not sexy. But it's a workhorse.

I knew that when I got on an Air Zimbabwe 737, I didn't have to worry about the flight. I knew it was going to get me to where I needed to go. Quality through and through.
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:46 am

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

Im an american from "this side" of the pond and I dont much care for it either. But perhaps that is a testament to its success, theres so many out there its boring!
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:56 am

Can't say I'm a 737 fan - I won't go out of my way to avoid them, but I certainly don't go overboard when I do fly one.
It's not my location either  Wink I'm a big fan of other Boeing lines - 744, 757, 767, 777 (absolutely favorite aircraft) just not the ol' 737

I prefer an A32x family a/c over a 737 but the 757 is the king of the single aisle subsonic a/c  Wink

I expect quite a bit of fanfare to surround number 6,000 - it's not everyday you build your 6000th airframe for one type  Wink
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:10 pm

Any way you cut it, 6000 is a heck of a lot of airplanes.

Funny, while I too find the 737 boring, we thought the same thing about the Electra's, 727's and DC-9's not too a long ago! One day we'll feel the same about the 737, but not for many, many more years!
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 1:59 pm

I'd rather fly a 737 than an MD80, and I don't fly the airlines much that fly the A32X, and don't really feel much difference once inside between the 737 and A32X (despite a little higher window placement on the A, and a slightly wider seat that I don't really notice).

But I do like to see the tiny 735s next to a 777. 735s are so squat and short, they look like fun.

And the 739 is nice too, as it is not that common right now, and so low to the ground, it seems very long, like the stretched MD80s do.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:34 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

couldn't have said it better!

Oh please, don't embarrass yourself; it has absolutely nothing to do with my location: I simply don't like that plane, what's so difficult to grasp about that?

As I've posted above, and I'll quote that for you since you both didn't seem capable of reading, not to mention understanding, it the first time around:

Quoting Leskova (Reply 5):
don't mind any other plane by any manufacturer

Get that? any other plane by any manufacturer... and guess what: that includes all other planes Boeing makes, as well as all planes built by McDD.

Get over yourselves, guys; being European does not mean being Anti-American, nor does it mean being Anti-American-Aircraft... just as much as being American does not mean being Anti-European or Anti-Airbus... not to mention, of course, the fact that two Americans on this thread have already posted the same opinion I posted in Reply #5!
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:57 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

couldn't have said it better!



Quoting Leskova (Reply 17):
Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

couldn't have said it better!

Oh please, don't embarrass yourself; it has absolutely nothing to do with my location: I simply don't like that plane, what's so difficult to grasp about that?

And I come from "your side of the pond", Mr. PHX... and have the same preference as leskova  Wink
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:08 pm

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Quoting MainMAN (Reply 8):
Quoting Leskova (Reply 5):
but I've never liked the B737... can't even say why, I just don't like it.

I don't like it either. It's been around for so long that it's boring. For some reason I think all 737s are ugly.........I don't know why

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:10 pm

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

Don't think so ... I'm on your side of the pond and I have never liked the B737 myself. You'll have to come up with a better excuse.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:14 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 17):

Good one Frank. For what it's worth, welcome to my RR list.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 6:16 pm

Quoting PHXinterrupted (Reply 9):
Perhaps it's because you two are on the 'other side' of the pond.

So then explain to me why I as a European regard the B777 as my favorite aircraft?

Quoting Leskova (Reply 17):
Get over yourselves, guys; being European does not mean being Anti-American, nor does it mean being Anti-American-Aircraft... just as much as being American does not mean being Anti-European or Anti-Airbus... not to mention, of course, the fact that two Americans on this thread have already posted the same opinion I posted in Reply #5!

Frank, don't waste your time with these guys. They simply are not able to overcome their insular, ideological barriers...  Yeah sure


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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:04 pm

That is un-f***in believable! Even though I have flown on (and enjoy) both Boeing and Airbus in their own ways, I have to say congratulations to Boeing for this unprecedented level of success. I look forward to flying on the 737 NG!!
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:11 pm

Whatever side of the pond you're on: it's almost impossible to not fly or have flown the 737. That means everybody can have an opinion on the 737. I like it, it's decent, it takes people everywhere relatively cheap.

Concerning looks... The best sold cars get kind of boring, 'cause you see them often. Same here. Still I see the beauty 'cause a 733 was the first plane to take me up in the sky.

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 7:39 pm

I've flown all sorts of 737s (200s, 300s, 400s, 500s, 800s & 900s) and all sorts of A320s (319s, 320s & 321s). Of course if one gets to fly nowadays on a brand new A319 with PTV throughout the cabin and bigger overhead bins he's gonna say it's better than flying a 737-200 today.

The 737 has brought to the world's regions what the 747 has brought to the world as a whole: it shrank them and made air travel accessible to the middle and even poorer classes.

I don't think I would have had the chance to travel across Europe and the globe if it weren't thanks to the revolutions of the 737 & 747. Look at our world just 40 years ago.

Talking about narrow bodies, sure the 757-200 (I find the 300s too much of a sausage kind) is the sexiest of them all! I purely love the sensation of power on a 737-200, I don't like those funny engine intakes of the 737-300, 400 & 500 and I'm so glad they've finally removed the eye-brow windows from the cockpit. I love the A320s' larger cabin but I feel safer on a 737 any day.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:11 pm

The 737? I don't really like it either, although I'm from 'this' side of the pond, whilst I'm currently on the other side of the 'Big Pond'. (Does that make the original pond a mere puddle?).

Anyway . . . 6,000 is a number that will never be equalled by another model number. Incredible.
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:18 pm

Guys, just ignore Phxinterrupted. The only posts he ever makes on these boards are posts where he lashes out at what he sees as 'Airbus lovers', 'Boeing haters' or generally people from, quote, 'the other side'.
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:20 pm

Quoting AMSGOT (Reply 24):
Concerning looks... The best sold cars get kind of boring,

True, although I would hesitate buying a new car with a 50 yr old nose design..

http://www.blackcanyonclassics.org/images/2004%20Photos/2004%20Car%20Show%20-%20Saturday/1955%20Chevrolet%20Belair.JPG

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:24 pm

Quoting Leskova (Reply 5):
Can't say I'm personally all to thrilled about it though, the B737 is the one and only plane that I try to avoid whenever possible; don't mind any other plane by any manufacturer, but I've never liked the B737... can't even say why, I just don't like it.

Yeah i concur. I defenetely don't like the look of it too much. I think it is rather ugly. But can't deny that it is a success story
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 8:25 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 28):
Quoting AMSGOT (Reply 24):
Concerning looks... The best sold cars get kind of boring,

True, although I would hesitate buying a new car with a 50 yr old nose design..

Nice point! 1-0 to you!
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:15 pm

Quoting Jush (Reply 29):
Yeah i concur. I defenetely don't like the look of it too much. I think it is rather ugly.

Well, the point is, I don't dislike the look of the plane - especially the NGs with winglets look quite nice...

It's being a passenger on them I don't like, and that's after 63 flights on B737s. Give me an A320, B757, MD80/90, B717, whatever, even CRJs or ERJs, and I'm happy.

Nonetheless, as said before, the B737 truly is a success story.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:38 pm

Although it is not yet "Congratulations Boeing" I want to congratulate them already. 6000 is a most impressive number for a single aircraft family.

And (can't help to be chauvinistic): Congratulations to the Lufthansa engineers that helped to shape specifications for the 737-100 back in the 1960ies. Although tail-engined a/c were highly fashionable for the short-haulers in those days and the 737 was seen as an ugly duck the concept has proven to be an outstanding success.

Plus: I like flying in the highly overpowered CFM-engined classics.

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:47 pm

Undoubtly one of the Best type ever built.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:53 pm

Quoting D-aqui (Reply 34):
And (can't help to be chauvinistic): Congratulations to the Lufthansa engineers that helped to shape specifications for the 737-100 back in the 1960ies.

The 100 series wasn't that big a success Big grin But Okay then, a little clap in the hand for Lufthansa too.

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 9:55 pm

Quoting AMSGOT (Reply 24):
Whatever side of the pond you're on: it's almost impossible to not fly or have flown the 737. That means everybody can have an opinion on the 737. I like it, it's decent, it takes people everywhere relatively cheap.

Concerning looks... The best sold cars get kind of boring, 'cause you see them often. Same here. Still I see the beauty 'cause a 733 was the first plane to take me up in the sky.

Pieter

Very well said  thumbsup 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:07 pm

Quoting Pmg1704 (Reply 12):
It sure is boring and sure as heck is not sexy.

I dont know, the porportions on the -800 are pretty much just right. Such sweet curves, and with a little lipstick and the right color scheme, that bird can be a bombshell.  Wink
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:07 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 28):
Any 737-100's still flying?

Unfortunately not. The last flying 737-100 was retired by the Mexican Government last year. The aircraft flew starting with SQ back in October 1969, and operated all the way to 2004.


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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 10:58 pm

You can't argue with sales success can you. I'm sure that Boeing has made one heck of a lot of money from the 737 and so have hundreds of 737 customers (but not all, as we are well aware of). Would anyone know exectly how many airlines have ever operated the 737? I would assume that number to be close to 250-300.
But then again, with only 737's and A320's around the single-aisle market is quite boring from a enthusiasts point of view.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:52 pm

Have to love the classic 732s, especially when you sit next to passengers who think the engine is falling off when the reversers come on. Those old interoirs are cramped too, but I just remind myself that it a classic. So far as the NG's, they are as comfortable as anything else. I had an A320 window seat this past weekend and that was cramped.

As fas as great narrowbodies, the grossly overpowered 757 blows them all away...what a fun a/c to fly on  bigthumbsup 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:31 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 28):
True, although I would hesitate buying a new car with a 50 yr old nose design..

Really! I just love that classic Boeing nose, perhaps because it is shared by one of my favourite aircraft, the 707. I was actually disappointed they offered the 737 with the 'eyebrow' windows as an option. I just loved the -200 and because the -600 is around the same length, it is my favourite version. I saw a picture of a new Westjet 736, it became my desktop wallpaper but there was something out of place with it, and I realised it was missing those eyebrows. I guess the 737 will be the last Boeing with that nose design so I hope they reach 10K orders so we will see it around for many more years!

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:11 am

And if Southern, NorthCentral/ Republic had 737-200s we'd all say WHEN WILL NW RETIRE THEIR 737-200's!? duck 
 
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:25 am

Hi guys,

6000 737s.... I can only say: WOW!!!!! And I have the pleasure to control 85 of them so far! that makes 1.3%! not very much, huh?  Wink

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:36 am

The A320 and 737 are truly the best selling Aircraft ever, I really wonder which airplane will come close to that numbers next, but I really doubt that we will see another airplane approaching this number before 2040...

But I can't help it, I would take a MD80 over a 737 or A320 anytime...

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:02 am

I've flown on the 737-300, 500, and 700 and I don't know why people say they would avoid them for a 757, or a A320. I think the 737 is quite roomy for a single isle aircraft, this year I flew CO to CUN it was 757-200 service down, and 737-300 service back, when your flying coach there isn't much difference in single isle plane, but that's just my opinion

Congrats to Boeing on creating such a great airplane....6000 strong
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:18 am

Is it true that the 737 range has sold more than entire Airbus's line up put together ?

Congrats to Boeing on creating such a great airplane, and of course I would prefer the 737 over the A320, I find the A320s noisy
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:08 am

6000.....That's a remarkable achievement

Personally, I am not a big fan.....I just don't like to look..
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:22 am

I find the 737 kind of boring too... just boring when taking them on SA & CE, nothing else wrong with it, but when I took a 737 (be damned if I knew what type) on WN, I absolutely hated it, crappy layout, crappy seating, crappy service, and a flight with enough turbulence that I was disgusted!

Either way, I think congrats are in order on (almost) 6,000 orders.
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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:39 am

While I do not get excited when I see that plane at the gate, this plane brought me safely from A to B through sunshine, rain, snow and storm a lot of times nearly everywhere in the world. And since I was born it was always there.

Congratulations Boeing for producing such an aircraft formidable.

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RE: Six Thousand Boeing 737's!

Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:28 am

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 43):
The A320 and 737 are truly the best selling Aircraft ever, I really wonder which airplane will come close to that numbers next, but I really doubt that we will see another airplane approaching this number before 2040...

I am certain you meant civil airliners. However, while the following (Save the DC-3) do not fall into that category, I do feel obligated to provide the information, not to minimize the accomplishments of the 73, but to provide context. There are, of course, substantial numbers of other types in the same categories as these that have also had production runs substantially exceeding 6,000.

Cessna 172 series: ~42,500
Ilyushin Il-2: 36,163 (?)
Messerschmitt 109: ~33,000
Piper PA-28 Cherokee: 30,200+, plus ~6000 Arrows
Piper J-3 Cub: 20,056
Focke-Wulf FW-190: 20,051
Supermarine Spitfire: 20,000+
Consolidated B-24: 19,203
Beech Bonanza: ~17,600
North American T-6/SNJ/Texan/Harvard/et al: 17,000+
Yakovlev Yak-9: 16,769
North American P-51: 15,675
Republic P-47: 15,579
Hawker Hurricane: 14,231
Curtiss P-40: 14,000+
Boeing B-17: 12,731
Vought F4U: 12,571
Douglas DC-3 (Including Lisunov Li-2) : ~12,600
Mitsubishi Zero: ~10,500
Boeing et al Stearman: 10,346
Bell UH-1: 10,000+
North American B-25: 9,800+
Bell P-39: 9,584
Mikoyan Gurevich MiG-21: 8,000+
De Havilland Mosquito: 7,781
Curtiss JN-4 Jenny: 6,000+

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