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Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:22 pm

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...es/081205dnbuswright.1d352e39.html

Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison yesterday proposed an end to the Wright Amendment's through-ticketing restrictions as an initial compromise in the debate over its repeal. Hutchison has not offered any such legislation, however, and still believes a full study on the impact of the WA's repeal is necessary.

"We could make some improvements to customer service without an outright repeal," Ms. Hutchison said.

AA is opposed to any changes in the Wright Amendment, while WN has said it is open to lifting the through ticketing restrictions as a first step toward full repeal.


I think this is definitely the way to go. Eliminating the through ticketing restrictions is the obvious first step. Let's see how that goes, and then talk about full repeal. I don't think anyone really believes it will be gone in one fell swoop.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:25 pm

Sounds like she might be afraid there are enough votes to repeal the amendment.Otherwise I dont think she would be talking like this. Doesnt her husband have some kind of job with DFW or possibly AA? Cant remember the details on that.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:31 pm

Quoting Ssides (Thread starter):
AA is opposed to any changes in the Wright Amendment, while WN has said it is open to lifting the through ticketing restrictions as a first step toward full repeal.

Wow, what a suprise, AA is against this move, which would so blatently help WN because of the nature of WNs normal services which includes a stop or two. This would allow you book direct off of WNs website to anywhere in their network for 2 stops or less probably.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:38 pm

Quoting IADLHR (Reply 1):
Doesnt her husband have some kind of job with DFW or possibly AA? Cant remember the details on that.

Sen. Hutchison's husband, Ray Hutchison, is DFW's principal bond lawyer. While I don't think this really is a per se conflict of interest, I'm surprised it isn't mentioned more often.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:52 pm

Quoting Ssides (Thread starter):
Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison yesterday proposed an end to the Wright Amendment's through-ticketing restrictions as an initial compromise in the debate over its repeal.

Definitely a step in the right (not be confused with Wright) direction. IMHO, the through-ticketing restriction should have been abolished right after 9/11/01. Not even DCA nor LGA have such a restriction.

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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:54 pm

"We could make some improvements to customer service without an outright repeal," Ms. Hutchison told reporters at the Texas Transportation Summit in Irving.

She still opposes a complete repeal of the Wright Amendment.
"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:00 am

I say go for it and watch the connecting pax suck the ever living life out of the low fares DAL would have to offer. Call it an experiment to knock some sense into Southwest about whether they really want all that freedom.

Want a sure bet... Allow this and we'll never hear about a Wright Repeal again. What we will hear about is a Hutchison Repeal from the passengers as they see their low fares available at DAL vanish into thin air.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:36 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):
I say go for it and watch the connecting pax suck the ever living life out of the low fares DAL would have to offer. Call it an experiment to knock some sense into Southwest about whether they really want all that freedom.

Want a sure bet... Allow this and we'll never hear about a Wright Repeal again. What we will hear about is a Hutchison Repeal from the passengers as they see their low fares available at DAL vanish into thin air.

How would this "suck the ever living life" out of DAL's low fares? DAL would see an increase in O&D traffic sure, but not much in terms of connecting traffic.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:38 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):
I say go for it and watch the connecting pax suck the ever living life out of the low fares DAL would have to offer. Call it an experiment to knock some sense into Southwest about whether they really want all that freedom.

Yeah, WN doesn't know what they want, how to run an airline, or how to be profitable. They should defer to you for that advise. Give me a break.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:41 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):

Want a sure bet... Allow this and we'll never hear about a Wright Repeal again. What we will hear about is a Hutchison Repeal from the passengers as they see their low fares available at DAL vanish into thin air.

So, is that just a really silly way of saying you're for it? Why not call KBH and tell her you agree?

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):
I have a really bad headache...

That's too bad, but could you please stop trying to pass it around?
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:44 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):
I say go for it and watch the connecting pax suck the ever living life out of the low fares DAL would have to offer. Call it an experiment to knock some sense into Southwest about whether they really want all that freedom.

Want a sure bet... Allow this and we'll never hear about a Wright Repeal again. What we will hear about is a Hutchison Repeal from the passengers as they see their low fares available at DAL vanish into thin air.

If this is truly the case, AA should wholeheartedly support the KBH compromise. Less low fare competition for flights out of DAL means higher fares for AA out of DFW.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:57 am

Good, then CO could fly bigger planes from IAH-DAL and get even more connecting int'l pax Big grin

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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:30 am

Sen. Hutchison is proposing with the resonable thru-ticket comprimise for now as to the WA is one that would definetely benefit WN and the passangers on WN especially those connecting to smaller Texas cities they only serve from Love. I think WN would support it as whould the Republican majority in the Senate/House whom espouse less regulation of business.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:01 am

Quoting Lt-AWACS (Reply 11):
Good, then CO could fly bigger planes from IAH-DAL

Just what DAL needs more 737  Wink
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:11 am

Quoting Ssides (Reply 7):
How would this "suck the ever living life" out of DAL's low fares? DAL would see an increase in O&D traffic sure, but not much in terms of connecting traffic.

Are you under the false assumption that connecting passengers will not absorb the majority of low fares at DAL because of this? Or is it your false contention that hub carriers fares are higher at a hub because they like to gouge locals?

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 8):
Yeah, WN doesn't know what they want, how to run an airline, or how to be profitable. They should defer to you for that advise. Give me a break.

They know exaclty what they want, and they'll get it. More money in the form of higher O&D fares from DAL. What's your point?

Quoting SATX (Reply 9):
That's too bad, but could you please stop trying to pass it around?

I thought I was passing back to you WA clowns. Sorry.

Quoting AirlineAddict (Reply 10):
If this is truly the case, AA should wholeheartedly support the KBH compromise. Less low fare competition for flights out of DAL means higher fares for AA out of DFW.

You're merging two different issues. One of fares, the other of airport cost increases as a result of Wright Appeal and passenger diversion.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 5:58 am

Spin, spin, spin.....

My point was that you said:

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):
Call it an experiment to knock some sense into Southwest about whether they really want all that freedom.

Weren't you implying that WN does not know the repercussions of what they are requesting in regards to Wright? While you are a genius in your own mind, I think WN has a longer track record of being profitable and being right (no pun intended).
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:14 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 6):
Want a sure bet... Allow this and we'll never hear about a Wright Repeal again. What we will hear about is a Hutchison Repeal from the passengers as they see their low fares available at DAL vanish into thin air.



Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 14):
You're merging two different issues. One of fares, the other of airport cost increases as a result of Wright Appeal and passenger diversion.

No, I'm not. Your premise in Reply 6 was that all of the low fare seats from DAL would be taken by thru-fare tickets thus increasing costs for folks who currently fly out of DAL. If this truly happens, then AA would be in a better position because less low fare seats would be available from the Metroplex. Unless AA doesn't price match WN...
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:27 am

Quoting Travelin man (Reply 15):
Weren't you implying that WN does not know the repercussions of what they are requesting in regards to Wright?

No genius, I was implying that they do know what they are doing and that lemmings such as yourself don't see the reality of the situation. You're hung up on a false sense of security that you'll see lower fares, when the reality is that you won't. Most Southwest pax are short hop point-to-point where fares are lower, but the connecting pax will absorb those lower fares. There's no way around effectively raising the average fare paid by the DAL customer. I'm sorry it's a very complicated issue for you, I wish I could help you understand how capacity affects pricing but clearly it's not possible.

Quoting Airlineaddict (Reply 16):
No, I'm not. Your premise in Reply 6 was that all of the low fare seats from DAL would be taken by thru-fare tickets thus increasing costs for folks who currently fly out of DAL. If this truly happens, then AA would be in a better position because less low fare seats would be available from the Metroplex. Unless AA doesn't price match WN...

AA won't change a thing and DAL fares on Southwest will increase as a result of connecting seat absorption. Sounds exciting no????
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:42 am

You have no ideas what you are talking about....everything you say translates into AA AA AA AA AA. What are they filling your pockets as well to come in here and preach the AA proaganda. Your basis for these obsurd ideas that ticket prices will go sky high due to the thru-fares is absolute trash.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:22 am

>> Most Southwest pax are short hop point-to-point where fares are lower, but the connecting pax will absorb those lower fares. There's no way around effectively raising the average fare paid by the DAL customer.

#1. WN's average "hop" is 600 miles. They aren't just flying DAL-HOU anymore, and two hour flights don't much qualify for short hops. Additionaly, much of WN's growth is in longer sectors that is driving this figure further upward.

#2. Assuming that connecting passengers will absorb lower fares assumes the number of lower fares stays constant. This isn't the case as WN has been adding capacity steadily, with an additional 75 73G on immediate order. WN is also rumoured to be strongly considering aircraft of greater capacity (with better economics) like the 739ER. There are pleanty of options to prevent a scenario you describe.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:43 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 19):
>> Most Southwest pax are short hop point-to-point where fares are lower, but the connecting pax will absorb those lower fares. There's no way around effectively raising the average fare paid by the DAL customer.

#1. WN's average "hop" is 600 miles. They aren't just flying DAL-HOU anymore, and two hour flights don't much qualify for short hops. Additionaly, much of WN's growth is in longer sectors that is driving this figure further upward.

#2. Assuming that connecting passengers will absorb lower fares assumes the number of lower fares stays constant. This isn't the case as WN has been adding capacity steadily, with an additional 75 73G on immediate order. WN is also rumoured to be strongly considering aircraft of greater capacity (with better economics) like the 739ER. There are pleanty of options to prevent a scenario you describe.

I agree with you completly. WN is a point to point carrier, not a hub and spoke carrier like ALL the majors. With their ever-growing number of cities/states, there are more point to points, and these points are getting further and further apart.

Also, if WN gets this leeway, then i'm assuming they will instantly increase capacity on most DAL flts. Specifically ABQ, and HOU. Becuase from those cities, you can go almost anywhere in the WN system n/s. Not so much for ABQ, but def anywhere in the southwest/cali region. And HOU is great for the east coast.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 11:56 am

I can forsee many one-stop direct flight oppourtunities

DAL-MSY-MCO (and other florida airports)

DAL-JAN-BWI

DAL-BHM-BNA

DAL-OKC-MDW (STL/MCI)

DAL-ABQ-PHX

They would obviously tweak their schedule to allow for as many of these types of flights as possible.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:09 pm

Quoting Gift4tbone (Reply 20):
Also, if WN gets this leeway, then i'm assuming they will instantly increase capacity on most DAL flts. Specifically ABQ, and HOU. Becuase from those cities, you can go almost anywhere in the WN system n/s. Not so much for ABQ, but def anywhere in the southwest/cali region. And HOU is great for the east coast.
Maybe we'll see a return of the PVD-HOU flt.

-Tony@PVD

And don't forget about MSY...the perfect stop for flights to Florida.

I also hope the HOU-PVD flight comes back...Schedule Planning had the timing all wrong on both flights the last time around as neither was available to/from SAT and other points.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 12:15 pm




Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 19):
#1. WN's average "hop" is 600 miles. They aren't just flying DAL-HOU anymore, and two hour flights don't much qualify for short hops. Additionaly, much of WN's growth is in longer sectors that is driving this figure further upward.



Well said, Dfw. It's really quite surprising how many people don't realize this, and still view WN as "that little Texas carrier".



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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sat Aug 13, 2005 10:01 pm

Why not replace it with a 1500 mile perimiter rule? Allowing through ticketing of course.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:07 am

>> Why not replace it with a 1500 mile perimiter rule? Allowing through ticketing of course.

1500nm is virtually all of the U.S., parts of Canada, and Mexico. Why not just do away with perimiters completly if you are going to make the radius that large?
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:04 am

Fine lets make it 1000 mile.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:17 am

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 17):
No genius, I was implying that they do know what they are doing and that lemmings such as yourself don't see the reality of the situation. You're hung up on a false sense of security that you'll see lower fares, when the reality is that you won't. Most Southwest pax are short hop point-to-point where fares are lower, but the connecting pax will absorb those lower fares. There's no way around effectively raising the average fare paid by the DAL customer. I'm sorry it's a very complicated issue for you, I wish I could help you understand how capacity affects pricing but clearly it's not possible.

I couldn't have said it better myself! Fact of the matter is that is EXACTLY what would happen unless Southwest offers significantly more service through DAL. Oh, welcome to my respected users list.

[Edited 2005-08-13 19:18:46]
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:53 am

I have tried to avoid this issue lately but I will post something on this one. Hutchison's idea is a good compromise a first step I think should be taken. One thing I fear about this compromise if it happens will be that there will be increased traffic at DAL as WN adds segments to offer one, two, or three stop service to DAL from wherever. Added flights means that they will need more gates at DAL. If they get all these gates and then wright is later repealed, that doesn't leave many more gates for the other airlines that might want to serve DAL. American and Continental would have 5 of the remaining gates, that would leave about 6 gates left for everyone else, including UA, NW, HP, US, FL, B6, DH, or anyone else that wants to serve the airport. AA has said they would want more gates at DAL. All of a sudden the Master Plan is in jeopardy and there would be more fighting. I think through ticketing, rather than a full repeal, would be more likely to give WN a bigger monopoly at DAL than straight repeal.

About the low fares issue. In order to understand that, you have to understand how WN prices, which is far different than the legacies. They have fares for advance purchase, promotional deals, walk up fares, etc. Assuming the people to benefit from this most would be business travellers who pay the highest fares (and thats currently where airlines at DFW are gouging customers) one must remember that WN has the highest fare capped at like $299 or something like that. Since those fares are available anytime, even last minute, there is no way that these fares could be snagged by connecting passengers. Therefore it is logical to reason that these passengers would pay considerably less than they currently do. Now whether AA would match or not at DFW is a different story, because they have the non stop flights, and I think that they would still want to charge a premium for taking a non stop flight. I think they would reduce fares a little, but not too much.

The people that could pay more are the leisure travellers that pay the lowest fares. Those seats could be scooped up by connecting passengers, meaning they would have to take a slightly higher fare to fly the same flight. But the ones who always pay the walk up fares, are going to pay less every time. And if anyone thinks that WN would raise the walk up fare, the WN business model has the highest walk up fare capped on all flights, and it likely won't change. Thats not the southwest way. The southwest way is to charge the lowest fare that they can still make a profit with, the legacy way is to charge the most money that someone will pay. Big difference in philosophy, and its one of the reasons WN has been profitable for so long.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:19 pm

I don't think there will be any action on the WA whether it is a compromise or out right repeal that will not have limits attached to the Love Field Master plan either by the city of Dallas or by Congress.

On the flip side if the Master Plan is not altered and WN expands to where there are only 5 gates available for other airlines would this not open WN to Antitrust actions?
"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:27 pm

Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 14):
Quoting Ssides (Reply 7):
How would this "suck the ever living life" out of DAL's low fares? DAL would see an increase in O&D traffic sure, but not much in terms of connecting traffic.

Are you under the false assumption that connecting passengers will not absorb the majority of low fares at DAL because of this? Or is it your false contention that hub carriers fares are higher at a hub because they like to gouge locals?

That is not a decision the customer makes; rather one made by WN's yield management. All WN wants is equal access to the skies for DAL passengers the way MDW or HOU offers. WN could care less where a customer makes a connection, but opening up nonstop markets beyond the scope of the W.A. is of paramount concern.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:42 pm

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 12):
WN especially those connecting to smaller Texas cities they only serve from Love.

There is no city in the Southwest system only served from Love. Amarillo (with service to DAL) also has service to 2 points westbound; ABQ and LAS. I believe they publish fares ex-AMA to eastbound points, though.

The only boutique station in Southwest’s system is Corpus Christi with service to one other city – 6 weekday flights to Houston.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:13 am

Quoting FlyingTexan (Reply 31):
The only boutique station in Southwest’s system is Corpus Christi with service to one other city – 6 weekday flights to Houston.

And, I believe that if the Wright Amendment (or the thru-ticketing restrictions) were repealed, you'd see a non-stop CRP-DAL flight.
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:31 am

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 19):
WN's average "hop" is 600 miles. They aren't just flying DAL-HOU anymore, and two hour flights don't much qualify for short hops. Additionaly, much of WN's growth is in longer sectors that is driving this figure further upward.



Quoting 2H4 (Reply 23):
Well said, Dfw. It's really quite surprising how many people don't realize this, and still view WN as "that little Texas carrier".

600 miles is a short hop.

While SWA averages 638 miles per segment for the 737-700 the rest of the industry averages over 1,100 miles for the same aircraft.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Comprom

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:24 am

>> On the flip side if the Master Plan is not altered and WN expands to where there are only 5 gates available for other airlines would this not open WN to Antitrust actions?

#1. WN only has rights to 20 of the 28 gates in the main terminal building. Are you not counting COex 3 gates as other airlines?

#2. DAL has the right to reallocate gates as they see fit on the basis of competition. If it became obvious that WN were abusing their gates, DAL has indicated they would use their authority in this regard.

#3. An anti-trust is defined as a monopoly that is hurts the interest of consumers. There are pleanty of "monopolies" that do not qualify as anti-trust violations in all industries. Anti-trust typically involves a degree of malicious thwarting of competition, outside the realm of conventional business affairs, to which AA has more to explain than WN (re: Legend Airlines legal hold-up)

#4. If you are going to raise the subject of monopolies, it is interesting to note that WN is bound to a maximum of 62% of DAL gates while AA has no such restrictions at DFW, currently flying 84% of DFW domestic departures.

>> While SWA averages 638 miles per segment for the 737-700 the rest of the industry averages over 1,100 miles for the same aircraft.

Since when has WN's comparison to the "industry average" been relevant?

>> Fact of the matter is that is EXACTLY what would happen unless Southwest offers significantly more service through DAL

Pray tell... what do you think they would do if the W.A. was eliminated?

Not offer significantly more service through DAL ?  eyebrow 

[Edited 2005-08-15 04:25:34]
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:21 pm




Quoting Boeing7E7 (Reply 33):
While SWA averages 638 miles per segment for the 737-700 the rest of the industry averages over 1,100 miles for the same aircraft.




Kinda makes you wonder how that 1,100 mile figure would change if the other carriers were subject to the same limitations WN is...



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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:31 pm

Quoting Ssides (Reply 32):
And, I believe that if the Wright Amendment (or the thru-ticketing restrictions) were repealed, you'd see a non-stop CRP-DAL flight.

I don't understand why you think a CRP-DAL non-stop would happen if only thru-ticketing was repealed. To go anywhere, you would have to connect to a current DAL WN city, so in essence, you would have a two-stop flight. Whereas, you now have a one-stop through HOU.

I could see this flight only if WA is totally repealed.
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:30 pm

The WA amendment is nothing more than a restriction of commerce, which results in higher airfares for Americans, and Texans in particular. No "compromise" will change this.

Americans and Texans deserve the right to fly from any airport nonstop to any other if the traffic demand warrants such service.

Shame on Hutchison for not having the balls to support and demand an end to the WA based on her political timidness. Her compromise solution is nothing more than political posturing.

End the WA effective 1201am Monday August 15th I say. Throw open the gates of competition and free enterprise, and stop screwing around.
I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
 
cjpark
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:27 pm

Quoting Yyz717 (Reply 37):
Americans and Texans deserve the right to fly from any airport nonstop to any other if the traffic demand warrants such service.

Shame on Hutchison for not having the balls to support and demand an end to the WA based on her political timidness. Her compromise solution is nothing more than political posturing.

Americans and Texans deserve the right to designate which airports are available for Commercial Traffic and which are not. You said that service should be available if traffic demand warrants such service. Traffic demands in North Texas region do not yet support two airports in such close proximity.

Senator Hutchison is female so Balls is the wrong term to use in descibing your anger. But you are right it is ashame she does not have the GUTS to stand up and say flat out No to Repeal of the WA.
"Any airline that wants to serve the [region] can go to DFW today and fly anywhere they want," WN spokesman Ed Stewart
 
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:53 am

The wright amendment MUST be repealed, it really is a restraint of trade argument (Robinson Patman act).

I have to go to Dallas next week from BNA, I just found this out today.

AA to DFW from BNA $653!!! which is robbery

WN BNA-MSY-DAL (2 r/t tickets purchased seperately) 283.10 + 196.90 = $480


case closed, screwed by AA again.
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RJNUT
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Thu Aug 18, 2005 4:31 am

Texas is just so wide open and unregulated in so many of their affaris, its just odd that this one issue has thorns!

Very Non-Texan if you ask me!
 
FlewGSW
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RE: Sen. Hutchison Proposes Thru-ticket WA Compromise

Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:07 am

Today's Fort Worth Star-Telegram opinion page

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/opinion/12403865.htm

An amazing tale of two airports.
"This is a story about a airport-"
It goes on to highlight Montreal's Mirabel airport status of no passenger flights since November 1, 2004. Then uses that example in the current DFW DAL debate.

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