luisde8cd
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Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:38 am

Hey guys,

Which good, safe, reliable online booking websites accept international credit cards as a payment method? I know Travelocity does. I wish expedia would accept international credit cards because they sometimes have cheaper fares. Orbitz doesnt accept intl. credit cards either. I would like to use my Venezuelan credit card to book my flights online but so far Im only limited to travelocity.com.

Thanks for your replies,
Luis
 
Aisak
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:57 am

That really grinds my gears!!
Why in the h*ck i would apply for a Visa or Mastercard in my country if it's not accepted abroad? Maybe it's time to change the Visa brand name to Visamerica o amstercard to point it can only be accepted in the country of issue

Here a Visa is a Visa, and you can pay with a Visa issued by the bank arround the corner or in New Zealand...

Don't know if Visa and Master Card know about this, but if so i dont know how they dare to advert the "accepted everywhere"
 
JGPH1A
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:04 am

The trick here is to lie. Put in a US address, as long as the zip code is remotely sensible, very few US websites bother to verify the billing address on the card. I have done this with Orbitz, aa.com, and few other sites - works beautifully, and as long as you're getting an e-ticket, what does it matter ?
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skyone
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:14 am

And what about Iberias, Air France or British web sites. I have never been able to book a flight with my mexican or american credit card. Then, when they create a part of their website for Mexico, the US and other coutries in order for you to pay with local cards they forget about us wanting to also buy tickets from other coutries. So if you put your coutry location (Mexico), then they block you from booking a MAD-CDG. That happened to me yesterday with AF. I had to call Air France to get the ticket. That is why I like low cost carriers like Easy Jet or Ryanair. They take my Mexican or American Credit Cards always. That is selling through your cheapest channel.
 
rojo
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:54 am

Quoting Luisde8cd (Thread starter):
Which good, safe, reliable online booking websites accept international credit cards as a payment method? I know Travelocity does. I wish expedia would accept international credit cards because they sometimes have cheaper fares. Orbitz doesnt accept intl. credit cards either. I would like to use my Venezuelan credit card to book my flights online but so far Im only limited to travelocity.com.

My advice Luis is:

Since the Superintendencia de Bancos of Venezuela just changed the law and now Venezuelan credit cards can be used internationally up to $4000 USD, you first have to call the bank and fill the paperwork so you card can be unlocked in the Visa/MC/Amex processing system.

Up to now, there is a restrictions to sell some international fares in Venezuela, and the travel agencies doing so could be charged a $100 - $200 USD fee by the airline converted to Bolivares. That is why many travel agencies in Venezuela were not selling international fares or tried to get paid in USD.

I don't know the routes you are trying to book, but be very careful, since Travelocity works as a tool for local Venezuelan travel agencies, and unless you have a US issued credit card, you won't be able to book a trip ending or starting in Venezuela with your Venezuelan credit card. Instead you will have to chose a travel agency working with Sabre in Venezuela to get your tickets and if the fares you purchased had the restriction not to be sold in Venezuela, the agency will have to pay the fee...
 
MGA
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:08 am

EXPEDIA.com is the best. I´ve tried them all. Either that or the airlines directly.

MGA
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exFATboy
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 3:08 am

Quoting Aisak (Reply 1):
Maybe it's time to change the Visa brand name to Visamerica o amstercard to point it can only be accepted in the country of issue

Ironicially, the original name for what would eventually become Visa was "Bankamericard", after the Bank of America, the original issuer back in 1958.
 
luisde8cd
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 4:44 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 2):
The trick here is to lie. Put in a US address, as long as the zip code is remotely sensible, very few US websites bother to verify the billing address on the card. I have done this with Orbitz, aa.com, and few other sites - works beautifully, and as long as you're getting an e-ticket, what does it matter ?

Good idead, but what exactly do you mean by saying remotely sensible?

Luis
 
luisde8cd
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:21 am

Quoting Rojo (Reply 4):
Since the Superintendencia de Bancos of Venezuela just changed the law and now Venezuelan credit cards can be used internationally up to $4000 USD, you first have to call the bank and fill the paperwork so you card can be unlocked in the Visa/MC/Amex processing system.

Exactly, USD 4000 a year for abroad personal use (person to person purchases, swiping the card) and USD 2500 a year for internet purchases. I have both authorizations. Last week I bought a ticket on southwest.com, a domestic AA LGA-MIA ticket on travelocity and a MTY-MIA-MTY AM ticket also in travelocity. I wanted to book directly from aa.com to avoid paying the USD 5 fee that they charge but since aa.com wouldn't accept my card, I had no choice but to buy it in travelocity.

Quoting Rojo (Reply 4):

Up to now, there is a restrictions to sell some international fares in Venezuela, and the travel agencies doing so could be charged a $100 - $200 USD fee by the airline converted to Bolivares. That is why many travel agencies in Venezuela were not selling international fares or tried to get paid in USD.

I don't know the routes you are trying to book, but be very careful, since Travelocity works as a tool for local Venezuelan travel agencies, and unless you have a US issued credit card, you won't be able to book a trip ending or starting in Venezuela with your Venezuelan credit card. Instead you will have to chose a travel agency working with Sabre in Venezuela to get your tickets and if the fares you purchased had the restriction not to be sold in Venezuela, the agency will have to pay the fee...

Thanks for the info. Nonetheless if my flight originates in Venezuela I rather go to a travel agency and buy the ticket there using Bolivares, so I don't lose part of my USD 2500 yearly allowance for internet purchases.

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
 
satx
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit C

Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:33 am

Quoting Rojo (Reply 4):
Since the Superintendencia de Bancos of Venezuela just changed the law and now Venezuelan credit cards can be used internationally up to $4000 USD, you first have to call the bank and fill the paperwork so you card can be unlocked in the Visa/MC/Amex processing system.

Wow, I have never heard of anything like this. I have a daily maximum on my debit card, but I didn't know some folks had yearly maximums on their credit cards. Yikes.
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luisde8cd
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:39 am

Quoting SATX (Reply 9):
Wow, I have never heard of anything like this. I have a daily maximum on my debit card, but I didn't know some folks had yearly maximums on their credit cards. Yikes

This is thanks to Mr. Chavez who placed a restriction on currency exchange. Chavez fixed the exchange rate and you cannot freely get foreign currencies with your bolivares. You are only are allowed to spend USD 4000 a year abroad (usng only your credit card), if you exceed that limit, you are fucked. People who travel a lot abroad have to go to the black market to get Dollars at much higher exchange rate. Thanks Chavez  Smile

Saludos desde Caracas,
Luis
 
L410Turbolet
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:49 am

Quoting MGA (Reply 5):
EXPEDIA.com is the best. I´ve tried them all. Either that or the airlines directly.

MGA

You did??? Copied from expedia.com's own webpage:

Can I use a credit card with an international billing address?

Credit cards with billing addresses outside the USA may only be used to purchase the following on Expedia.com:

hotel reservations
rental car reservations
activities

When entering an international billing address, be sure to click the "Non USA billing address" radio button to enable the correct address format. Note: All purchases containing a flight or cruise must be made using a credit card with a domestic billing address. At this time, you will not be able to book flights with your non USA credit card.

http://www.expedia.com/pub/agent.dll...ngfaq.htx&rhtx=HTX_HOTVSRCH#intlcc

Can anyone provide a reasonable explanation for this idiotic policy? I'd very interested to hear it. If one can book a hotel room in e.g. Dakar, Senegal using a credit card issued in let say Thailand through a US-based website, why the same can't be done with flights?
BTW, Expedia's European offshoots are moreless the same, which is even more ridiculous given the existing common market.

[Edited 2005-08-12 23:56:14]
 
David L
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Sat Aug 13, 2005 6:59 am

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 2):
The trick here is to lie. Put in a US address, as long as the zip code is remotely sensible, very few US websites bother to verify the billing address on the card.

But if they do check, don't you face the risk of getting a big red mark on your credit rating?
 
JGPH1A
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:09 am

Quoting David L (Reply 12):
But if they do check, don't you face the risk of getting a big red mark on your credit rating?

No - they'll just tell you your credit card failed to validate, that's all. I've never had a problem when it doesn't work, either.
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piescf
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:34 am

The answer is to do with credit card fraud which is running at a very high level. When you book a flight online the airline is the merchant of record and because the airline does not have a signature on file or you are not at the airline desk in person the verify identity. If they except the charge they are labile for the fraud not the credit card company. Therefore they will in general not accept international credit cards over the internet, when they cannot do the IAVS (international address verification) . The difficultly lies in that VISA and Mastercard operate through many different banks in many countries and the systems are not connected to enable IAVS. AMEX is and is able to do the IAVS therefore is accepted. But the airlines prefer to use Visa and Mastercard due to the lower cost of sale.

Hope that helps..
 
MGA
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RE: Online Booking Websites-international Credit Cards

Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:35 am

Quoting Aisak (Reply 1):
All purchases containing a flight or cruise must be made using a credit card with a domestic billing address. At this time, you will not be able to book flights with your non USA credit card.

Thats odd... I have used it many times to book intra-US flights AND Central America Departing flights.

MGA
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