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Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:12 pm

Which Airlines have GE90s on there 777s?

Thanks.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:19 pm

AM will as soon as it receives it first two 772ER's during the first months of 2006.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:37 pm

Here you go , hope this helps. (Not in order)

China Southern B772
Japan Airlines B772ER and 773ER
ANA B773ER
KLM B772
Continental B772ER
Alitalia 772ER
Vietnam 772ER
BA 772/772ER (a mixture of GE and RR)
Emirates 773ER
EVA Air 772LR (Future) and 773ER
PIA 772ER , 772LR (Future) and 773ER (Future)
Kuwait B772ER
Singapore Airlines B773ER (Future)
Austrian (Lauda Air) B772ER
Air France B772ER and B773ER
Varig B772ER
Air Austral B772ER


Did I miss out anyone ?

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:44 pm

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
Egypt Air B772ER

sorry mate, Egypt doesn't have GE's.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:45 pm

Continental has it on their 777-300ER I believe.

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:48 pm

Quoting FutureUApilot (Reply 4):
Continental has it on their 777-300ER I believe.

FutureUApilot,
I believe you are mistaken, CO doesn't have 777-300ER's. Then again, unless they made an order recently I could be wrong.

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:50 pm

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
Here you go , hope this helps. (Not in order)

Yes thats for this

If anyone know of anymore toss them on the list.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:51 pm

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 3):
sorry mate, Egypt doesn't have GE's.

Thanks.

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 5):
I believe you are mistaken, CO doesn't have 777-300ER's. Then again, unless they made an order recently I could be wrong.

CO has currently no orders of the 773ER.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:02 pm

Quoting DeltaGuy767 (Reply 5):
I believe you are mistaken, CO doesn't have 777-300ER's

Hm, Your right! I thought for sure they did, but turns out I was wrong, only some 772's... Wow, I must be more tired than i thought!  Wink

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:37 pm

Air Austral has PW 4090, not GE90.

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:22 pm

MS has the PW4090

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:15 pm

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
BA 772/772ER (a mixture of GE and RR)

BA772s are GE only.

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
Vietnam 772ER

Vietnam has only 3x 772s with GE90 engines, the rest are PW4084s.

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
Varig B772ER

Varig's 772s from UA are PW powered.


Saudi 777s are also GE90-92B powered.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:41 pm

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 11):
BA772s are GE only.

Apart from the majority which are powered by RR Trents  Wink
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:47 pm

I've got GE engines...
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:39 pm

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 11):
Saudi 777s are also GE90-92B powered.

Saudi's 777 are powered with RR Trent 895 engines not GE.

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 11):
BA772s are GE only.

BA has a mixture of RR trent and GE powered 777s . Majority of the fleet are RR trent.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:42 pm

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 12):
Apart from the majority which are powered by RR Trents

Those are all 772ERs. The standard 772s are all GE-powered.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:51 pm

Quoting ManchesterMAN (Reply 12):
Apart from the majority which are powered by RR Trents  



Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 14):
BA has a mixture of RR trent and GE powered 777s . Majority of the fleet are RR trent.

Both of you are absolutely right.
The 777As are GE powered while the 777ERs are RR powered.
Please note the difference.

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 14):
Saudi's 777 are powered with RR Trent 895 engines not GE.


Nice work Charles, source please? I need the source cos I would like to correct every webpage out there that says Saudi uses GE90-90B for their 777s. Reminds me of the time you insisted that Thai uses PW for their 777s right?  Smile

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:48 pm

Is there a good webpage out there that shows which airlines use which engines? At least a fairly comprehensive list? There used to be at "speednews" but lately I could not find it. They must have removed it.

Any links are appreciated, thanks!
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:55 pm

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 16):
The 777As are GE powered while the 777ERs are RR powered.
Please note the difference.

Actually, that's not really correct either. Yes, all the 772As are GE-powered, but not all the 772ERs are RR-powered. Some of those are GE-powered as well.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:20 pm

Quoting Scorpio (Reply 18):
Actually, that's not really correct either. Yes, all the 772As are GE-powered, but not all the 772ERs are RR-powered. Some of those are GE-powered as we

Hi, I was under the impression that the ERs were all RR. You got me there thanks. The 772ERs are G-VIIA - Z, powered by GE90-85/92. Thanks for the correction.

Quoting GEnxPower (Reply 17):
Is there a good webpage out there that shows which airlines use which engines? At least a fairly comprehensive list? There used to be at "speednews" but lately I could not find it. They must have removed it.

Any links are appreciated, thanks!

You might like to try airlinerlist at http://www.airlinerlist.com/
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:40 pm

BA has 24 ER's GE powered and 15 ER's that are RR powered (Source Boeing website). So I wonder which engine the pilots, bean counters and maintanence folks prefer???

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:48 pm

Quoting UAL747-600 (Reply 20):
...I wonder which engine ... folks prefer?

Well, BA switched to RR after experiencing the GE90 on 777-200ERs if that's a clue!
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:52 pm

Actually, what BA did was buy a bunch of 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892 engines (I think) after the airline shelved additional 747-400 orders.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:58 pm

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 14):
Saudi's 777 are powered with Trent 895 engines not GE

No, they ARE powered by GE!!! All 23 have GE90-92Bs.

The information about who has which engine is pretty widespread. There's no excuse for getting it wrong!

While I'm at it, let me clear up BA:

They have...
3 (three) -200s with GE90-76Bs (G-ZZZ_)
24 (twenty-four) -200ERs with GE90-90Bs (G-RAES, G-VII_)
16 (sixteen) -200ERs with RR Trent 895-17s (G-YMM_)

So all of BA's -200s (all three!) and the majority of their -200ERs have GE.

A total of 43. (They had two more GE -200s but returned them to Boeing and they're now with Varig.)
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:28 am

Quoting UAL747-600 (Reply 20):
BA has 24 ER's GE powered and 15 ER's that are RR powered (Source Boeing website). So I wonder which engine the pilots, bean counters and maintanence folks prefer???

On the whole I think the RR engine is the preferred one.

Just for a little bit of info each Trent 895 weighs nearly 2 metric tonnes less than the GE90 series. That translates into nearly 4 tonnes of extra payload / range.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:31 am

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 22):
Actually, what BA did was buy a bunch of 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892 engines (I think) after the airline shelved additional 747-400 orders.

The fact that BA cancelled some 747-400 orders to be powered by RB211s was NOT the reason why they ordered the YMM* series with Trents. The Trent was selected because they reckoned that it was the preferred engine for the job that BA wanted the 777s to do.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:00 am

we forget Lauda Air too, with GE90's!

BA as one of the launch customers had no choice early in the 1995 days when they recieved there first T7's because the Trents where late on schedule, or so I was told...

on the other hand I read articles too that BA at first picked the GE engine as there T7 engine and only later switched to RR.

Also both GE and PW used techniques learned from previous engines to build these new monster engines while RR did something completely different and new with there internal air compressor, maybe BA found that to risky in the beginning, but off course the present teached us that the Trent 800 is a superb craftmanship!

Also a side fact sonsidering the GE90, the massive fan blades needed to be build of composite to save overall weight on the engine, the GE90 blade is much wider than normal, that was unique too and also never being done! both PW 40** and trent 800 have full metal blades!
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:48 am

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 14):
Saudi's 777 are powered with RR Trent 895 engines not GE.

Wrong.

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 22):
a bunch of 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892 engines

I think they might all be 895 powered.

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:58 am

the other reason touted at the time as to why BA took GE powered 777s which has not been mentioned so far in this thread is that GE purchased BA's engine overhaul center in Wales at almost the same time the deal was struck for the engines. according to some bean counters it was a major factor in BAs decision making process at the time
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:59 am

And someone on another thread wanted the media to consult A.nutters on all thing aviation (in light of the incorrect information from the AF near disaster). That's too funny from what I'm witnessing in this thread!
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:14 pm

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
KLM B772

KL has no B772As, only B772ERs

Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 2):
BA 772/772ER (a mixture of GE and RR)

Actually, the GE90 powered 772ERs at BA are derated and refered to as 772IGWs

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 11):
Vietnam has only 3x 772s with GE90 engines, the rest are PW4084s.

Which means the PW birds are rated even lighter than they would be with 4090 power

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 11):
Varig's 772s from UA are PW powered.

They have GE90 powered aircraft as well

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 16):
Quoting 9V-SVC (Reply 14):
BA has a mixture of RR trent and GE powered 777s . Majority of the fleet are RR trent.

Both of you are absolutely right.
The 777As are GE powered while the 777ERs are RR powered.

BA also flies GE90 powered 772ERs, though they are derated, lower MTOW models with shorter range than the Trent 895 birds

Quoting UAL747-600 (Reply 20):
BA has 24 ER's GE powered and 15 ER's that are RR powered (Source Boeing website). So I wonder which engine the pilots, bean counters and maintanence folks prefer???

Well, pilots like more power and the Trents have that. The bean counters probably prefer the Trents simply because the derated GE90 powered -ERs don't have long enough range to take advantage of their SFC advantage over the Trents

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 22):
Actually, what BA did was buy a bunch of 777-200ER's powered by Trent 892 engines (I think) after the airline shelved additional 747-400 orders.

Trent 895 actually

Quoting Geo772 (Reply 24):
Just for a little bit of info each Trent 895 weighs nearly 2 metric tonnes less than the GE90 series. That translates into nearly 4 tonnes of extra payload / range.

The GE90 makes up for that, and some, with a lower SFC than the Trent 895. On longer range missions, the GE90 is the more economic aircraft. There is a reason they have the same MTOW and range numbers

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 26):
BA as one of the launch customers had no choice early in the 1995 days when they recieved there first T7's because the Trents where late on schedule, or so I was told...

on the other hand I read articles too that BA at first picked the GE engine as there T7 engine and only later switched to RR.

The GE choice was more because of the engine facility deal than anything and the switch back to Rolls had a lot to do with the swapping of the 744 order
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:31 pm

Quoting Fly_yhm (Thread starter):
Which Airlines have GE90s on there 777s?

I don't know the reason for your question, but as a passenger I recently found out that th GE engine is not my favourite. Within one month I've flown on the Lauda 777 and the United 777 and experienced a huge difference in noise comfort.

The GE powered Lauda 777's make a lot of noise. I really wondered why all the a-netters are so positive about this aircraft. Then on the United flights I revised my opinion (again).

According to the response in the thread I've started about this subject (Different Engines 777) the United 777 have P&W engines.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 5:07 pm

Quoting N1120A (Reply 30):
The GE choice was more because of the engine facility deal than anything and the switch back to Rolls had a lot to do with the swapping of the 744 order

Apparently not...I was reading back through some threads on the topic and it seems as though the choice of the Trents was nothing to do with the cancelled 744 RB211 order.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:06 pm

An interesting coda to this thread is the question of how much additional business GE will pick up on 777-200ERs because of their exclusivity on the -200LR and -300ER.

I assume that part of their strategy when they paid Boeing to be alone on the long-range versions was that they'd pick up more -200ER sales as a bonus. (At the time of the exclusivity deal they were in third place on the 777 programme behind both RR and PW.) Has it happened? Will it happen?

Scenario No.1: An airline hasn't yet bought any 777s but decides to buy a fleet comprising both 2ERs and 3ERs (or 2LRs). They have no choice on the long-range engines so it makes sense to stick with GE90s throughout. Is that what happened at PIA? Maybe but I doubt it. PIA have tended to buy GE for their widebodies in the past so chances are that GE would have won a PIA 777-200ER order anyway. I daresay this is what was going to happen (and still might) with the AC order. Maybe the Air India order too. But neither AC nor AI has yet been signed off.

Scenario No.2: An airline decides to buy 2ERs now and expects to order 3ERs in the future. What engine do they choose for their -200ERs? Well, isn't that what happened with Air New Zealand? They are buying four 2ERs and leasing four more (from ILFC) and at the same time I believe they took options on 3ERs. Surely this is exactly the kind of order that GE hoped/expected they'd get because of their exclusivity on the heavier models? But ANZ chose RR for their 2ERs - even knowing that their 3ERs will have GE if and when they buy them.

Scenario No.3: An airline already has a fleet of PW or RR 777-200s/-200ERs/-300s but now buys 2LRs or 3ERs (or both) necessarily with GE. They also want a further batch of 2ERs. Do they stick with their original supplier or bundle that order in with the order for GE90s? In other words, if Cathay (for the sake of argument) order a fleet of 3ERs and at the same time buy another dozen 2ERs will GE scoop the whole order or will Cathay stay with RR for their 2ERs? The closest we've come to this is JAL buying -200s with PW but switching to GE for their -200ERs. Was that connected to JAL's order for -300ERs or, as I've heard, was it at least in part an expression of dissatisfaction with PW?

A small but complicating factor is that GE do not offer (or at least have not sold) a GE90 on the 777-300. Might they yet plug this gap?

Anyway, I've been waiting to see if and when GE win 2ER orders on the back of their investment in the 2LR/3ER. I can't honestly think of a single example where this has certainly happened - yet. Am I forgetting something?
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:59 pm

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 32):
Apparently not...I was reading back through some threads on the topic and it seems as though the choice of the Trents was nothing to do with the cancelled 744 RB211 order.

It was a factor. If BA ordered the GE90 with the 772ers converted from the 744 orders, BA would have paid Rolls cancellation fees.

Quoting PM (Reply 33):
Scenario No.2: An airline decides to buy 2ERs now and expects to order 3ERs in the future. What engine do they choose for their -200ERs? Well, isn't that what happened with Air New Zealand?

I don't think so. I belive ANZ ordered the Trent 800 for thier 772ers.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:01 pm

Quoting SWISSER (Reply 26):
Also both GE and PW used techniques learned from previous engines to build these new monster engines while RR did something completely different and new with there internal air compressor, maybe BA found that to risky in the beginning, but off course the present teached us that the Trent 800 is a superb craftmanship!

I always thought it was the other way around.. that the GE90 was designed from scratch hence its ability to push out 115,000 lbs thrust where as the RR and PW were at their max at 90,000 odd lbs thrust?
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:21 pm

Quoting Dynkrisolo (Reply 34):
I don't think so. I believe ANZ ordered the Trent 800 for their 777-200ers.

Indeed. Didn't you read the whole paragraph from which you quote only the first two lines?  confused 

Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 35):
...the GE90 was designed from scratch hence its ability to push out 115,000lbs thrust whereas the RR and PW were at their max at 90,000lbs odd thrust?

Hardly, since both RR and PW have built and sold Trents and PW4000s for the 777 that are rated way above 90,000. Moreover, RR built and ran a Trent 800 at well over 100,000lbs and were happy to hang it on the 777-300ER until GE bought exclusivity. The GE90-115 is uniquely powerful not because of some inherent engineering advantage but because GE got the contract from Boeing to do it and RR didn't.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:44 am

Quoting PM (Reply 36):
Hardly, since both RR and PW have built and sold Trents and PW4000s for the 777 that are rated way above 90,000. Moreover, RR built and ran a Trent 800 at well over 100,000lbs and were happy to hang it on the 777-300ER until GE bought exclusivity. The GE90-115 is uniquely powerful not because of some inherent engineering advantage but because GE got the contract from Boeing to do it and RR didn't.

Understood, would have been nice to see a few variants of engines on the 773ER and 772LR. Thanks for sharing!
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:48 am

Quoting PM (Reply 36):
Indeed. Didn't you read the whole paragraph from which you quote only the first two lines?

Hmm.. The way I read it is AirxLiban didn't think the 744 cancellation was a factor. He said it in Reply 25, and then disagreed with what N1120A once again in Reply 32.
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Quoting Tsentsan (Reply 35):
...the GE90 was designed from scratch hence its ability to push out 115,000lbs thrust whereas the RR and PW were at their max at 90,000lbs odd thrust?

Hardly, since both RR and PW have built and sold Trents and PW4000s for the 777 that are rated way above 90,000.

This is correct. RR has 95k T895, and P&W has 98k PW4098.

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Moreover, RR built and ran a Trent 800 at well over 100,000lbs

They had a 104k T8104 demonstrator, but

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and were happy to hang it on the 777-300ER until GE bought exclusivity.

Not the -300ER that we know of. It's an earlier, lighter version of the -300X.

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The GE90-115 is uniquely powerful not because of some inherent engineering advantage but because GE got the contract from Boeing to do it and RR didn't

This is incorrect. It would require a lot more work for Rolls to grow the Trent 800 beyond the T8104.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:06 am

Quoting PM (Reply 36):
eover, RR built and ran a Trent 800 at well over 100,000lbs and were happy to hang it on the 777-300ER until GE bought exclusivity.

They ran it... but were having a hard time producing multiple copies of it.

Quoting PM (Reply 36):
The GE90-115 is uniquely powerful not because of some inherent engineering advantage but because GE got the contract from Boeing to do it and RR didn't.

That's just not correct. The GE90 is uniquely powerful because its a clean sheet design. Rolls was going to have to do a lot of redesign work to get the 8115 to fly, and the core was just tapped out at 104.

The GE90 core will comfortably scale to 150,000 pounds.

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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:37 am

Quoting Dynkrisolo (Reply 38):
Quoting PM (Reply 36):
Hmm.. The way I read it is AirxLiban didn't think the 744 cancellation was a factor. He said it in Reply 25, and then disagreed with what N1120A once again in Reply 32.

Dynkrisolo is correct in saying that I didn't think that the 744 cancellation was a factor. Bear in my mind that I have no knowledge other than what has been posted on this site in previous threads.

The reason I keep on saying that the RR thing was not a factor:

Starting off with Replies 7 and 10 in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1589419/

Replies 8 and 28 in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1834401/

Replies 4,6,7,9 in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1735429/

And various replies in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1372259/
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:41 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 40):
Dynkrisolo is correct in saying that I didn't think that the 744 cancellation was a factor. Bear in my mind that I have no knowledge other than what has been posted on this site in previous threads.

The reason I keep on saying that the RR thing was not a factor:

Starting off with Replies 7 and 10 in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1589419/

Replies 8 and 28 in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1834401/

Replies 4,6,7,9 in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1735429/

And various replies in:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions...2259/

Interesting that you pretty much based your opinion on one person's opinion (GDB's). It is a fact that BA had converted some 744 orders to the 777s. It is a fact that if BA didn't choose RR engines, they would have to pay a cancellation penalty for the 744 engines. It was one of the reasons why BA ordered the Trent 800, but it wasn't the only one. GDB stated the other reasons.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:30 am

Quoting Dynkrisolo (Reply 41):
Interesting that you pretty much based your opinion on one person's opinion (GDB's). It is a fact that BA had converted some 744 orders to the 777s. It is a fact that if BA didn't choose RR engines, they would have to pay a cancellation penalty for the 744 engines. It was one of the reasons why BA ordered the Trent 800, but it wasn't the only one. GDB stated the other reasons.

There's a difference between GDB saying that it wasn't a reason and someone like me saying that it wasn't a reason.

How many cancelled 747s were there anyway? The three that were picked up by QF? Or were there more?
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dynkrisolo
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:29 am

Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 42):
There's a difference between GDB saying that it wasn't a reason and someone like me saying that it wasn't a reason.

It doesn't mean he wouldn't make mistakes.

Quote:

How many cancelled 747s were there anyway? The three that were picked up by QF? Or were there more?

I believe it was six. I have 1997 data showing orders for 64 744s. They have 57 and sold 1 freighter to CX, IIRC.
 
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:53 am

Quoting Dynkrisolo (Reply 43):
Quoting AirxLiban (Reply 42):
There's a difference between GDB saying that it wasn't a reason and someone like me saying that it wasn't a reason.

It doesn't mean he wouldn't make mistakes.

Right but he works for the airline in question, or at least I thought he does.

Quoting Dynkrisolo (Reply 43):
I believe it was six. I have 1997 data showing orders for 64 744s. They have 57 and sold 1 freighter to CX, IIRC

How much would the cancellation have cost them on 24 engines?
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widebodyphotog
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:09 pm

Here is a detail list of all GE powered 777's active, on order, and stored. The current tally as of August 10, 2005.





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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:07 pm

Quoting Widebodyphotog (Reply 45):
Here is a detail list of all GE powered 777's active, on order, and stored. The current tally as of August 10, 2005.

Thats just about sums it up.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:05 pm

Quoting Widebodyphotog (Reply 45):
Here is a detail list of all GE powered 777's active, on order, and stored. The current tally as of August 10, 2005.

But didn't Jet Airways (9W) order some 777LR's and 773ER's also. So their 777-25RLR's and 777-35RER's (plus leased) would also be GE powered.
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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:00 pm

Quoting Cricket (Reply 47):
But didn't Jet Airways (9W) order some 777LR's and 773ER's also. So their 777-25RLR's and 777-35RER's (plus leased) would also be GE powered.

Yes, you are right. Ten GE powered 777's for Jet Airways are on order. I'll update the table later.



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RE: Airlines With 777 With GE-90 Engines

Wed Aug 17, 2005 12:23 am

Quoting Cricket (Reply 47):
But didn't Jet Airways (9W) order some 777LR's and 773ER's also. So their 777-25RLR's and 777-35RER's (plus leased) would also be GE powered.

This may be a matter of splitting hairs, but neither AI nor 9W has actually "ordered" the aircraft. Both carriers have expressed an interest in purchasing a combination of 772LRs and 773ERs (for AI, this would be for 5 x 772LR and 10 x 773ER and for 9W, this would be for 6 x 772LR and 4 x 773ER). During the Paris airshow, 9W signed a Letter of Intent for the purchase of the 777 along with the 10 x 737-800 (as also 10 x A332/A333). Just this past week, the 737 order became firm on Boeing's books. We are still waiting on the firming of the 777 and A330 orders.

As for AI we are expecting the firming of their order any day now.  sarcastic 

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