LXsaab2000
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AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:35 pm

From winter '05/'06 , AZ scheduled flights from MXP to the U.K. :

- BHX will be dropped
- MAN goes from M80 to E70
- LHR decreases from 4 to 3 daily flights (but LIN-LHR will be increased from 4 to 5 daily flights)

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airblue
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:41 pm

Quoting Lxsaab2000 (Thread starter):
LHR decreases from 4 to 3 daily flights (but LIN-LHR will be increased from 4 to 5 daily flights)

Few transit pax and lot point to point pax.... so better to use the city airport of LIN where BA could only offer 3 daily flights due to the Bersani act.
 
mainMAN
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:02 am

Also MAN/BHX -MXP well catered for by BA Citiexpress. Leisure demand also falls off during the winter months.
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:33 pm

I bet they take on MAN FCO after BACX announcement that they are to drop it.
 
philb
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:45 pm

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 3):
I bet they take on MAN FCO after BACX announcement that they are to drop it.

Alitalia have tried MAN-FCO a number of times since 1947 and have never maintained the route. Never seems to have been a logical reason for their failure but with low cost options around and few business links, I'd be surprised if they have a go.

The downsizing of the aircraft for winter on MXP is to be expected as vacation/city break travel reduces until the Spring.
 
gayrugbyman
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:23 pm

50% of MAN MXP traffic is interlining on to other AZ destinations: Sao Paolo, Tehran, Tokyo, Venice and Rome being the most popular final destinations.

I am sure Rome would do fine with a mix of leisure and business trafic, BACX suffered on this route due to slow RJ100 planes, a terrible schedule and an abysmal business product.
 
GVBIG
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:11 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 3):
I bet they take on MAN FCO after BACX announcement that they are to drop it.

Just fly Ryanair from LPL-CIA  Wink
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gayrugbyman
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:18 am

If I didnt live 5 minutes from MAN I would, but seeing as LPL has appalling public transport links and te Ryanair CIA flights have unsocial timings, I can;t and won;t do that.
 
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:20 am

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 5):
50% of MAN MXP traffic is interlining on to other AZ destinations: Sao Paolo, Tehran, Tokyo, Venice and Rome being the most popular final destinations.

...and dont forget EZE....

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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:44 am

Quoting Lxsaab2000 (Thread starter):
- BHX will be dropped

That's sad - at least from a variety point of view. It had always struck me that the costs of the BHX operation must have been high for AZ, I mean why have a stop-over on week-nights and paying for crew accommodation and overnight stabling fees when the alternative of better scheduling could be much more cost effective?
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mainMAN
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:35 am

Quoting Philb (Reply 4):
Alitalia have tried MAN-FCO a number of times since 1947 and have never maintained the route.

I never knew that. I remember in the 80s, FCO was a weekly service by BA. Think I'm right in saying that they operated every day except Sat to LIN (via BHX for a while) and on Saturdays to FCO......for years. Real commitment from BA back then... Wink

Quoting GayrugbyMAN (Reply 3):
I bet they take on MAN FCO after BACX announcement that they are to drop it.

Somebody probably will. It has all the hallmarks of a ZB destination, minus a beach. You'd think that if MAD was an attractive proposition, then FCO would be too. Wait and see.
 
philb
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:47 am

Alitalia flew Rome-Milan-Northolt-Manchester and v v with Savoia Marchetti SM95 for the amazing period of four weeks in the Spring of 1947 before it was withdrawn along its entirety.

Alitalia next appeared at MAN in 1968 with Caravelles on a twice weekly service to/from Rome and Milan. DC9-30s replaced the Caravelles, the service hit a peak of 4 per week and was extended to Dublin but was withdrawn in October 1972.

A further attempt was made around 1976 but whilst slots for the service were reserved and adverts appeared I don't have a note of any actual flights, unless they were eventually code shared with BA.
 
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:42 am

I flew on this LHR- MXP route once.

I was amazed.. Friday PM, April at 7pm with an MD80... and 30 passengers on it... I guess thats why they dropped it.
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RE: AZ To Reduce MXP-U.K. Flights

Tue Aug 16, 2005 3:47 am

On a different note, MXP is very good indeed for watching the movements from landside. I presume it must also be very good airside, although I do not have personal experience of this.
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