c172
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Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:38 am

Folks, c172 has an idea. In-flight vending machines!

I can hear the critics now... "they'll take up space that could be filled with a paying passenger...".

No, wait! IN PLACE OF THE GALLEYS, the airline would place several food/beverage vending machines, simplifying the job of catering/flight attending.

Want a beer or a bloody mary? Swipe your ID and you got it.
Other in-flight essentials could be sold as well. On a 747 you could turn the upstairs into a self service café.



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LawnDart
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:43 am

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):
Folks, c172 has an idea. In-flight vending machines!

Someone proposed a trans-atlantic low-cost carrier a couple of years back, and part of the business plan was to have in-flight vending machines where the galleys used to be...

Can't remember the name - they never got off the ground. Nice idea, though.
 
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:43 am

Air France has this since a few years, they provide a snack/drink self service bar next to the galleys.

Only alcohol isn't available there, you have to ask a F/A for it (probably because they can control on this "request way" how much beers/boozes everyone is drinking).

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c172
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:49 am

Quoting Sabena332 (Reply 2):
probably because they can control on this "request way" how much beers/boozes everyone is drinking

Where's the fun in that?  drunk 




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Sabena332
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:52 am

Quoting C172 (Reply 3):
Where's the fun in that?

The fun is to go to a bar after you arrived.

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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 9:56 am

C172 –

Welcome back! You’re something special to a.net.

With vending machines on airliners, many people will be out of their seats, clogging up the aisles, galley areas.
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:00 am

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):

I can hear the critics now... "they'll take up space that could be filled with a paying passenger...".

I never picked one up, but they look pretty heavy to me.

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):
No, wait! IN PLACE OF THE GALLEYS, the airline would place several food/beverage vending machines, simplifying the job of catering/flight attending.

Imagine 100 to 550 hungry/thirsty pax trying to get to the galley area? It would also take a while to refill them on the ground increasing turn-around time.

Not to mention you'll have to get it FAA certified.

Cool idea, but it's more complicated than it seems.

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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:45 am

I have a much better idea.

They should install a minibar in every seatback. Big grin
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:55 am

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 7):
I have a much better idea.

They should install a minibar in every seatback.

That'll be the day... 10EUR for a 8oz can of Diet Dr. Pepper!
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:21 am

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 7):
They should install a minibar in every seatback.

Actually, didn't Court Lines have this?

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utapao
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 11:34 am

I can't believe I'm almost agreeing with C172, but if you think about it, a different variety than the BOB snack boxes might help... especially for short-hauls.

I'm NOT saying snack machines... weight, stocking, change, etc...OMG. But instead of complete snack boxes, IF the airlines have to offer food-for-purchase, maybe just snacks on an individual basis could help. In other words, sell a bag of Fritos/Lays/Pretzels for whatever 7-11 sells them.

Bottom line, the flying public has to get over "deserving a meal" for a 2-hour flight when they sit at their desk for 4 hours with no meal served... ride the bus/train with no meal... etc. However, if they could buy a bag of chip for $1 vs. little mini bags of raisins/2cookies/etc., for $5 it might be more palatable.

Food for thought....
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ASMD80
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:18 pm

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):
I can hear the critics now... "they'll take up space that could be filled with a paying passenger...".

Don't look now, AS just added seats 27 A,B,C to their MD80s by reducing the galley size slightly.

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):

No, wait! IN PLACE OF THE GALLEYS, the airline would place several food/beverage vending machines, simplifying the job of catering/flight attending.

You still need flight attendants. Not to mention the airline would be getting tons of complaint letters from angry pax.

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):
Other in-flight essentials could be sold as well.

Wait a sec. There's duty free for that.

Quoting C172 (Thread starter):
c172... what will he think of next?

I almost forgot:
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:19 pm

Quoting Bobster2 (Reply 7):
They should install a minibar in every seatback. 

EK has minibars in each cubby in first on the A345/6, don't they?

Quoting Utapao (Reply 10):
train with no meal

Most rail I know of that isn't just for quick commutes sell food.
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utapao
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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 12:30 pm

Ikramerica -

Sorry. By "no meal" I meant "included in the price, as many people seem to expect from an airline but not other forms of transportation.


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RE: Airliner Vending Machines

Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:57 pm

Working myself in the vending industry, I think the idea is worth being looked at.

However, I can see right away a problem. It is regarding the currency accepted by the equipments. Having a coin changer and a bill acceptor capable of accepting many currencies is not possible. Canadian coin changers do accept both US and Canadian coin set. That's not a problem. The same is not true for the bill acceptor. As for the euro equipment, to my knowledge, they only accept Euros.

Obvioulsy, the only way such a project could be possible is with the use of a credit card reader. The amount of the transaction would then be treated in the currency of the aircraft nationality. i.e. a French aircraft would charge in Euros, a US aircraft in US dollars and a Canadian aircraft in Canadian dollars.

But before such a project ever comes alive, the vending equipment manufacturers (Crane, AP, USI, Saeco, AMS, Cafection, etc.) would have to redesign their equipments and make them much lighter.

If such a thing ever comes alive, I volunteer myself to fill-up the machines and fix them if need be on the YUL-CDG route in summer and the YUL-PVR route in winter.

[Edited 2005-08-15 11:59:56]

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