philipj
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Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Tue Aug 16, 2005 4:53 am

Coming up at the beginning of October, I will be heading over to Zurich for work and will be flying on the all-business-class BBJ2 operated by PrivatAir on behalf of Swiss. The BBJ2 flight operates 6 days a week (ex Saturday) between Newark and Zurich and replaced the A330 that Swiss was operating on this route at the beginning of 2005.

I've flown the BBJ operated by PrivatAir on behalf of Lufthansa from Newark to Munich a number of times and assume the service will be fairly similar. There is a nice brochure on the Swiss website that shows the cabin layout, photos and tries to make a comparison between the 2 services. While the lay-flat-and-slide-at-an-angle-to-the-floor seats look more comfortable than the cradle seats on the BBJ, this will be my first on an eastbound flight with the lay-flat seat (I've been on a Lufthansa A330 with their new Business Class, but only westbound). There is a lower ratio of flight attendants:passengers on this flight than the Lufthansa BBJ flight (4:56 as compared to 4:48).

Has anyone on this forum flown this particular aircraft and can relate any experiences from it? Does anyone know how full these flights have been running now that they've switched their services?
 
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:02 am

A friend of mine (who was headed to Romania) flew ORD-DUS on that aircraft a few weeks ago. He was in heaven. Or would he have connected to ORD and then done EWR-DUS?
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swisswings
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:44 am

I have flown EWR-ZRH on the PrivatAir BBJ in May 2005.
The cabin is all business class, spacious and very comfortable. Seats are ok, lie-flat with tilt angle 6° and with 60'' between the rows. IFE is with individual DVD players distributed by flight attendants. Service is standard Swiss Business Class, provided by PrivatAir flight attendants. I was very pleased with the overall cabin comfort and the private atmosphere onboard. Arrived relaxed and refreshed in Zurich. Recommendable. Pictures can be seen on the Swiss International Airlines webite.
 
HT
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:06 am

Read this TR from 2002, but still interesting and from a very reliable source:
DUS-EWR With The BBJ And Same Day Return (by Fly-K Dec 1 2002 in Trip Reports)
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EDIT: Wait, that TR is for a BBJ while the question was for the BBJ2. Sorry !

[Edited 2005-08-15 23:08:24]
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philipj
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Tue Aug 16, 2005 10:36 pm

Quoting N328KF (Reply 1):
A friend of mine (who was headed to Romania) flew ORD-DUS on that aircraft a few weeks ago. He was in heaven. Or would he have connected to ORD and then done EWR-DUS?

The service to DUS is flown from both ORD & EWR and is on an A319LR. The seats look similar to those used on the BBJ2 (lie-flat).
 
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:38 am

I was on the inaugural flight in January this year from ZRH to EWR and found
the seats much more comfortable than Swiss' new seats in their A343 fleet. However, inflight service/entertainment is better on LX own A/C. But you will definitely like the private atmosphere and the whiff of luxury...
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:02 am

Anyone know how full these flights usually get?

Was thinking of trying to do a non-rev trip with them!  Smile
 
planesailing
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:05 am

I hope someone can explain.

I take it Swiss charters this plane to fly the route. Do you have to pay business class fares, and does this mean Swiss does not fly any aircraft on the route. Surely the capacity drop from an A330 to a BBJ2 is huge?
 
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:12 am

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 7):
Do you have to pay business class fares

Yes, of course.

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 7):
and does this mean Swiss does not fly any aircraft on the route

No, ZRH-EWR is only served by the Privatair 73H (and by CO with a 762).

Quoting Planesailing (Reply 7):
Surely the capacity drop from an A330 to a BBJ2 is huge?

Sure but a small all Biz Class configurated aircraft can bring more money than a 2 or 3 class 332. DUS is the best example, the ACJ flights to EWR and ORD seem to be very successful. I flew DUS-EWR and ORD-DUS on them and my girlfriend and I were lucky to get a free seat on both flights (we were traveling on stand-by tix).

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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:18 am

I had never heard of this situation, thanks for the heads up. This is a similar service to what Eos is planning itself across the pond to the UK then.
 
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 8:37 am

As mentioned: Swiss uses between ZRH and EWR the only business class PrivatAir 737BBJ (only 56 pax). On the ZRH-JFK route they have their own three class A 343 and 332.
 
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:36 pm

Quoting ZRH (Reply 10):
PrivatAir 737BBJ (only 56 pax).

They "cramm" 56 pax into that BBJ2, while they have only 48 pax on the shorter BBJ flying MUC - EWR for LH ?!
-HT
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SR3496
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RE: Anyone Flown The PrivatAir/Swiss BBJ2?

Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:11 pm

The BBJ ZRH-EWR is a B737-800, rather than a B737-700 which is used on the MUC-EWR.
That's the reason for the 56 pax instead of 48 pax.

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