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Carrier Callsigns Assignment

Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:38 pm

Who decides which callsign, IATA and ICAO code, a carrier gets?
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RE: Carrier Callsigns Assignment

Thu Aug 18, 2005 8:39 pm

IATA and ICAO, I guess...  Wink
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RE: Carrier Callsigns Assignment

Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:15 pm

Since it's an operational thing, I'm pretty sure it is just ICAO that designates an airline's callsign.

Unsurprisingly, the IATA code is designated by IATA, and the ICAO code by ICAO...

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RE: Carrier Callsigns Assignment

Thu Aug 18, 2005 9:26 pm

Callsigns, as distinct from designators, are chosen by the airlines and some are historic: Speedbird, Springbok, to name but two.

The only interest the authorities have is that there is no duplication in the same operating area, the callsigns are both short and distinctive and are standardised.

These are all ATC concerns. Some years ago Arrow Air started using the call sign Big A unofficially. Both the British and German ATC authorities had this stopped until Arrow Air notified them officially of the change.
 
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RE: Carrier Callsigns Assignment

Thu Aug 18, 2005 10:28 pm

Quoting Philb (Reply 3):
Callsigns, as distinct from designators, are chosen by the airlines and some are historic: Speedbird, Springbok, to name but two.

The only interest the authorities have is that there is no duplication in the same operating area, the callsigns are both short and distinctive and are standardised.

Years ago FEDEX used the callsign "express" but made the change to "fedex' for a couple of reasons. One there was some other carrier that started using an express call and there were some confusing moments plus I think fedex wanted a little more exposure with the "fedex" call.
 
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RE: Carrier Callsigns Assignment

Fri Aug 19, 2005 6:07 am

UPS also changed their radio call from "upsco" to "ups" a while back. Prior to the Arrow/Fine Air merger when both carriers were competitors, Fine's radio call was "big eff", obviously as a dig to Arrow's "big a"
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